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New Poll - Best Shoujo
For Shoujo, we had 135 people give nominations for 196 unique series. This one doesn't have a clear cut winner, so no elimination of any series!

Here are the series that got a lot of nominations but didn't quite make the cut:
Fruits Basket
Ore Monogatari!!
Mars
Kaichou wa Maid-sama!
1/2 Prince
Kare Kano
Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun

If you're curious what happened 6 years ago:
Skip Beat! - votes: 4023 (31.8%)
Ouran High School Host Club (Ouran Koukou Host Club) - votes: 3211 (25.4%)
Fruits Basket (Furuba) - votes: 2839 (22.4%)
Hana Kimi (Hanazakari no Kimitachi e) - votes: 1447 (11.4%)
Mars - votes: 1140 (9%)
There were 12660 total votes.
The poll ended: September 12th 2009

You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related)
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: Best Shounen (besides One Piece)
Choices:
Fullmetal Alchemist - votes: 3149 (27.1%)
Hunter x Hunter - votes: 1549 (13.4%)
Naruto - votes: 1140 (9.8%)
Gintama - votes: 1117 (9.6%)
Attack on Titan - votes: 1025 (8.8%)
Shokugeki no Soma - votes: 934 (8.1%)
Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun - votes: 643 (5.5%)
Horimiya - votes: 630 (5.4%)
Black Butler - votes: 604 (5.2%)
Pandora Hearts - votes: 458 (3.9%)
Magi - The Labyrinth of Magic - votes: 350 (3%)
There were 11599 total votes.
The poll ended: September 18th 2015

And FMA wins! In case you never noticed, my forum avatar is from FMA.
Posted by lambchopsil on 
September 19th 6:46am
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» calstine on September 19th, 2015, 12:21am

Ah, well. At least my vote helped HxH to come in 2nd. Not that I ever expected anything but FMA to win, of course.

This time's poll is much easier, since mainstream shoujo are all pretty "Ugh" in my book. I vote for Natsume Yuujinchou, which I'm pretty sure will be runner-up, since Skip Beat is going to win. Hopefully Natsume can still beat Ouran. Go, Natsume!

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» wansmor on September 19th, 2015, 1:15am

It seems that Skip Beat is winning again this time around. While I also think it's great, I voted Basara, mainly for its high level quality in story depth. I was not expecting it on the list and I'm happy to see it there.

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» drhell on September 19th, 2015, 1:57am

Skip Beat already a sure win, my vote still goes for Basara by a long shot but a little disappointed for Sora wa Akai Kawa no Hotori missing from the list

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» Chainless on September 19th, 2015, 2:01am

Skip Beat! isn't as great as it was 6 years ago. Far from it in fact. My vote goes for to Natsume Yuujinchou. The storytelling and characters are simply wonderful and the series raises all kinds of emotions and thoughts. Definetely Natsume Yuujinchou!

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» Nirhtuc on September 19th, 2015, 2:04am

Not really into shoujo, but I loved Fruits Basket and Maid-sama was fun as well.

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» Sosseres on September 19th, 2015, 2:46am

Voted Glass Mask since I feel the mediums created from it is also part of what makes the manga good. If it wasn't on the list I guess it would be Natsume which I have enjoyed a lot, one of the good works with spirits in them. Walking the balance of the real world and the spirit world very well.

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» residentgrigo on September 19th, 2015, 3:43am

I agree with how No.1 and 2 shook out and the sole manga that didn´t deserve to be in the top 10 came last. How nice but Titan´s middle of the road placing is a big surprising.
FMA was the only series i nominated myself last time and i don´t remember choosing Last Game but it´s head and shoulders above the rest and Mars isn´t present this time.

How come we can vote for last time´s winner Skip Beat! again? It is clearly going to win... Again.

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» licorice on September 19th, 2015, 4:55am

Skip Beat is awful. I'm voting for LSL and Koi dano Ai dano. Why isn't Taiyou no Ie on that list?!

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» Trimutius on September 19th, 2015, 5:37am

Kaichou wa maid-sama didn't make it? That one I consider to be one of the best mangas (irrelevant of genre), though ending there wasn't all that good I agree.

But anyway I consider Skip beat to be 10/10 too, so I voted for skip beat... because it is the only 10/10 in this list...

Though shoujos were easier to choose, because I kinda knew more names for some reason than in shounens, even though I'm a guy.

Though most of the series, I either stopped reading, because they became boring, or they just don't make it to 10/10, some are even below 9/10 for me...

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» Miale on September 19th, 2015, 6:09am

I dropped Skip beat a long time ago, I was getting so annoyed at a certain point. wonder why so many people like it. My friend still bought the newest volume, but she does not recommend me to pick it up again no

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» Cthylla on September 19th, 2015, 6:41am

Never read any of these.

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» TheZero on September 19th, 2015, 11:05am

Hoping for no "Best Seinen" poll next week

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» lambchopsil on September 19th, 2015, 8:45pm

Sucks for you

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» jedinat on September 19th, 2015, 12:23pm

Needs more Hikawa Kyouko.

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» Cherelle Ashlee on September 19th, 2015, 7:54pm

Quote from jedinat
Needs more Hikawa Kyouko.



Yes! you know it!

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» rosemask22 on September 19th, 2015, 1:15pm

I'm disappointed that Kimi ni Todoke didn't make the list as it is my fave shoujo cry . I voted for Akatsuki no Yona because I really love the characters.

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» zarlan on September 19th, 2015, 1:47pm

I haven't read enough of the manga in the poll, to feel that I should vote
...but there is one thing I can say:
Chang Ge Xing doesn't belong there.
It's not shoujo ...as it's not even a manga.

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» mikako17 on September 19th, 2015, 6:10pm

It's hard to decide if Chang Ge Xing does or does not belong here since the Japanese magazine it's in is Seinen whereas it's published online in China and I can't read Mandarin so I wouldn't be able to tell you if it's actually in the shoujo demographic there.

And to KaoriNite, I kinda get where you're coming from having not read most of these but I have to say that Basara and Glass Mask are fairly old, definitely older than Nana.

Anyway think I'm gonna go with Basara since it's complete, and very satisfactorily so, had good art, and I definitely enjoyed the female and male leads.

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» KaoriNite on September 20th, 2015, 5:47am

Well to be fair, while I was into watching shoujo anime, I've read very few shoujo manga.

I remember watching the Skip Beat anime a few years ago, and I got really into it. I thought about reading the manga, but when I saw that it had 150+ chapters I gave up that idea.

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» zarlan on September 22nd, 2015, 11:31am

Quote from mikako17
It's hard to decide if Chang Ge Xing does or does not belong here since the Japanese magazine it's in is Seinen whereas it's published online in China and I can't read Mandarin so I wouldn't be able to tell you if it's actually in the shoujo demographic there.

It's written and published in Chinese, for Chinese readers.

Any publication of it, in Japanese, is a translated publication, and doesn't count any more than the American publications of, for example, Skip Beat.
If you make a list of comics, that are made in America, you don't include Skip Beat, just because translations of it, are published in America.

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» mikako17 on September 22nd, 2015, 6:15pm

I guess the question is whether the mods were looking specifically at shoujo as Japanese demographic audience or just using it to generally refer to the Asian comics published for the female demographic. On MU, it seems to be the latter since there is obviously no Shaonu demographic. I mean, I get what you're saying but MU just does not have those tags.

Also, you should delete the "https://" from your link since it's not working.

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» zarlan on September 23rd, 2015, 1:47am

Quote from mikako17
I guess the question is whether the mods were looking specifically at shoujo as Japanese demographic audience or just using it to generally refer to the Asian comics published for the female demographic.

No.
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On MU, it seems to be the latter since there is obviously no Shaonu demographic.

No, MU is just not that strict, with just including manga, as novels, Western manga-inspired comics and non-Japanese Asian comics are all included in MU

No one would argue that novels are manga.
Thus it is quite clear that a series being in MU, doesn't mean that it is manga.
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Also, you should delete the "https://" from your link since it's not working.

The "https://" is supposed to be there ...it's the extra "http://" that the MU forum automatically adds (making it "http://https://"), for some bizarre reason, that messes things up.

If it didn't automatically try to correct things, then it would work perfectly ...and this is far from the first time, or the only type of situation, I've encountered, where the MU forum's "corrections" makes a mess of things...
Removing both "http" bits, solved the problem.

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» mikako17 on September 23rd, 2015, 11:14am

How can it just be no, it's a poll on MU asking about what's best on MU. MU is not being strict therefore it is used to generally refer to comics for the female demographic. It doesn't mean that the definition of "shoujo" is comics for the female demographic, it's just MU using that word in that way.

As an aside, words change in meaning and this is one way it starts, by pushing the boundaries of the original meaning.

And yes, I know the "https://" is supposed to be there and MU adds an extra one that's why I suggested that you remove it from your link since it solves the problem, you're being just a bit patronizing.

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» zarlan on September 23rd, 2015, 2:47pm

Quote from mikako17
How can it just be no, it's a poll on MU asking about what's best on MU.

...
That's a very good point.
Fair enough, I guess.
I take back my complaint, then.
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And yes, I know the "https://" is supposed to be there and MU adds an extra one that's why I suggested that you remove it from your link since it solves the problem

Why didn't you mention the "http://", then? Having a "http://" there, makes it wrong, so...

The absence of that, made me, assume that you did not know ...as it naturally would.
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you're being just a bit patronizing.

How so?
Why should I assume that everyone I speak to, knows every detail?
An explanation, when it isn't needed, is better than a lack of an explanation, when one is ...and if someone explains something, that doesn't necessarily indicate an assumption that you don't know, but a lack of an assumption that you necessarily do (and why should they have such an assumption? Keep in mind that people on the internet don't know all about you, nor are they able to read your mind) ...or it might even be mostly for the benefit of others, reading the thread.

Furthermore, ignorance isn't (necessarily) stupidity.
We are all ignorant about tons of things, and we can't all be bothered to be informed about everything, so there is nothing insulting or particularly bad, about the occasional bit of ignorance (I, for example, didn't know that the MU forum would mess up that link, for me)

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» mikako17 on September 23rd, 2015, 8:07pm

I mentioned the "https://" because usually when you're adding a link to the [ url = ], you're the one including the "https://" in the link, at least all the links I use are "https://" so if you remove it from the link in the post, then there is no problem. That is why I suggested you to remove it from the link. I didn't mention the "http://" because you don't actually remove that from your post, the person who clicks the link would have to remove it to see where the link goes. I don't actually see how it would naturally make you assume that I didn't know, I suggested the removal of it from your link (I assumed you would understand I meant that you should edit your post), not the url you would see when you click it, so wouldn't that naturally mean I know what I'm talking about?

And the patronizing comment wasn't just for the linking, though I can see how you would assume that. It's how you worded your post, not the information your post provided. The blatant "No" for one just shuts down dialogue and says that you are correct and that's it. So that along with the linking stuff just made you seem patronizing to me. (Really though, it was the "No" that bugged me.)

Edit: Right, and I think if we want to continue discussing this it will have to be over PM, it's gotten a bit away from the thread.

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» zarlan on September 23rd, 2015, 9:00pm

Quote from mikako17
the person who clicks the link would have to remove it to see where the link goes.

...so it would still not work, then?
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I don't actually see how it would naturally make you assume that I didn't know

...because you already have the assumptions that resulted in your writing what you did, and why.
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I suggested the removal of it from your link (I assumed you would understand I meant that you should edit your post), not the url you would see when you click it

The address, as written in the post, began with a "http://https://" ...and that's where it would lead you, if you clicked on it.
The URL, as you would see it, when you had the mouse over, however, didn't contain the initial "http://".

In other words, you need to remove both the "http://" and "https://".
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The blatant "No" for one just shuts down dialogue and says that you are correct and that's it.

I expanded on and explained how and why, what you said was wrong (though not there, but further down, in that same comment).
How is that shutting down dialogue or just saying I'm correct, and "that's that"?

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» Sorcha on September 21st, 2015, 12:09am

Chang Ge Xing is a shoujo. I remember reading the debate about its demography (seinen/shoujo) before, and pretty sure it is classified as both.

Personally I vote for Chang Ge Xing and is supporting Basara and Natsume. I'm surprised by the high popularity of Skip Beat! as I though its popularity already drop a long time ago. And who choose Love so Life?

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» zarlan on September 22nd, 2015, 11:39am

Quote from Sorcha
Chang Ge Xing is a shoujo. I remember reading the debate about its demography (seinen/shoujo) before, and pretty sure it is classified as both.

A shoujo manga is defined as a manga (which is to say, a Japanese comic), with a target demographic of female children and/or adolescents/teenagers.

Chang Ge Xing is thus obviously not shoujo.
Shàonǚ, perhaps, but not clearly not shoujo.

It is made in China, in Chinese and for a Chinese target audience.
Thus it cannot possibly be called a Japanese comic, nor any subcategory thereof (such as shoujo)

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» meshy on September 19th, 2015, 2:15pm

Skip Beat is so going to win... mad

I haven't read most of the shoujo on the list since they aren't completed (I only read complete series), but since I really want to read Love So Life, I voted for that.

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» Shibiusa on September 19th, 2015, 2:35pm

What I have to say about this... It doesn't reflect quality. Only fandom. As always... One Piece is not the best shounen. But they have tons of fanboys. Skip Beat is far from being the best shoujo. But, once again, it has tons of fangirls. Oh well...

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» likm on September 20th, 2015, 6:59pm

Opinions

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» AliceinAmestris on September 19th, 2015, 3:11pm

WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME!??! So many good shoujo.... Too hard to pick....

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» Calamansi on September 19th, 2015, 3:22pm

Yay, HxH came in 2nd. Pretty good, considering how the 2011 anime doesn't even have an English dub. Grats to all the FMA fans. smile

And wow wow wow, I'm so glad Basara made the list! I nominated it but didn't expect it to be particularly popular. It definitely receives my vote.

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» KaoriNite on September 19th, 2015, 5:56pm

This poll has showed me how removed I've become from shoujo. I haven't read any of these manga, and haven't even heard of most of them.

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» Moon-Angelica on September 19th, 2015, 8:37pm

Looks like Shoujo is going to be a closer race than Shounen was.

Funny though, my tastes have clearly changed over the last 6 years. The last Shounen poll has all titles I was reading and Shoujo only had one or two whereas this time I'm following a lot of the Shoujo titles and hardly any Shounen.

I voted for Akatsuki no Yona - I love early Skip Beat but lost a lot of interest in the Kuon arc, Natsume and Ouran are always up there and Akagami I like but it's too new to my reading list. In the end I just really like Yona.

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» SilverStorm on September 19th, 2015, 8:37pm

Skip Beat is leading the best shoujo poll? WTF is going on.

With the exception of Glass Mask and Love So Life, I've actually read all of those manga. Skip Beat is definitely not the best, not even top 3.

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» readingtheshow on September 19th, 2015, 8:43pm

Koi dano Ai dano needs more love. Although, I have to admit I did prefer the prequel...

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» crazyboutcute on September 20th, 2015, 2:03am

My vote goes to Natsume. It's just so sweet and serene, and like someone else said, it stirs up all kinds of emotions in the reader apart from what one might be inclined to call the "typical shoujo fare" (namely romantic ones).

Akagami no Shirayuki-hime I dropped a few chapters in because of how completely generic and boring it was. Couldn't get into Basara simply because of how dated the art is (IMO it didn't age that well), but I do respect that it's a classic for the demographic and allegedly very good. Skip Beat! I've never read because just reading about it, I get the distinct impression that I wouldn't like it. no

Ouran Host Club is still a thing in 2015? Geez, it ended ages ago, and I dropped it even before that when literally everyone started falling in love with the protag. God, that was annoying. Aside from that, it was just really dragging and getting real old real fast (should have ended a lot sooner than it did).

Akatsuki no Yona is currently on my on-hold list. Despite all the wonderful things I've heard about it and despite being a fan of Kusanagi's other works, I just couldn't get into this one. I plan on going back to it eventually, maybe after checking out the anime first (which apparently was also pretty highly regarded). The only thing that really deters me is the harem tag. I can't stand harem/reverse harem series. Can anyone here tell me if the harem aspect is super obnoxious in this title?

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» MinatoAce on September 20th, 2015, 2:14am

Well FMA winning was a given...but, the real winner by remains OP after all...

Now, I don't read any Shoujo. So, I haven't read a single one from the list.
But, I get to hear Skip Beat!'s name here and there time to times. I heard about OHSHC as well.
But, counting the number, I gave the crown to Skip Beat!

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» Sphear on September 20th, 2015, 2:18am

Lol maybe I'm not into the mainstream but absolutely hate more than half those titles- Oresama Teacher gets my vote because well at least it was funny.

Never understood why people like Skip Beat so much.

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» TheRepublican on September 20th, 2015, 5:14am

Basara obviously, easy choice. Akagami no Shirayuki-hime, Akatsuki no Yona, Skip Beat! and Glass Mask are all good too though, check them out if you haven't already.



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» tori_no_uta on September 20th, 2015, 9:19am

basara was so good

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» illya_ on September 20th, 2015, 1:45pm

Indeed, go go Basara!

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» tori_no_uta on September 20th, 2015, 9:20am

This was difficult because I love all of these series so much. I couldn't decide between Natsume Yuujinchou, Oresama Teacher, Basara or Chang Ge Xing. But In the end I went for Natsume.

I've loved Midorikawa Yuki since the first time I read Akaku Saku Koe (recommends) and I just loved her even more after the time she made me cry for over an hour over Atsui Hibi (that scene with the stars). Natsume Yuujinchou is her latest work and maybe her best one yet. I always find it difficult to put into words how beautiful it is. The story is told with great care and there is such kindness at the heart of it that somehow you find yourself becoming kinder too. It's so awfully heart warming and bitter sweet that whenever I read it I start crying. It brings about that sharp pain and nostalgia you get when you think back to a precious memory that you keep close to your heart. The series is just so gentle and beautiful and I cry over it so much.

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» RoxFlowz on September 21st, 2015, 1:59am

I feel a little bit reluctant to vote, as I'm not an avid reader of Shoujo manga, but Chang Ge Xing is one of my favorite works.
I'm excited for the Seinen and especially Josei poll, I wonder which series will come out on top.

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» Breizh on September 21st, 2015, 6:44am

I voted for skip beat but LSL and Last game are good too

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» mysstris on September 21st, 2015, 10:34am

Difficult to choose but I'll choose the one I'm most into right now even though the demographic tag is questionable ~ Chang Ge Xing

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» morphin007 on September 21st, 2015, 1:53pm

umm choosed Akatsuki no Yona, but had a hard time choosing it and not choosing Natsume Yuujinchou or Skip Beat! ...
But anyway I would have prefered Angel Sanctuary or Tokyo Crazy Paradise.

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» maddeok on September 22nd, 2015, 2:20pm

I'm surprised that Dengeki Daisy didn't make it at all... :'c

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» cyclamen on September 24th, 2015, 7:03am

Whoa, how is Ouran winning? I wonder whether that's evidence of its high popularity or the drop in Skip Beat's popularity... And yes, I say popularity 'cos this kind of poll has F-all to do with actual quality. The poll titles should be "Most popular shoujo/shounen/seinen/josei," not "best."

There's only one manga out of these options I've read, never felt the desire to read a single other title here. (Generic YA romance, bore) I voted for Natsume Yuujinchou, obviously.

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» TaoPaiPai on September 24th, 2015, 7:10am

so much anger...



best shoujo
Tenshi Kinryouku
i mean...angels and satan band together to fight god omg and then we have some incest and shoujo/shounen ai on top of it all

nothing even comes close

might be the best manga i have ever read .

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» gwkimmy on September 25th, 2015, 11:58pm

nooooooo i would have totally voted for ore monogatari had it been there ;(((((((((

i know almost none of those shoujos o_o lol. and the ones i do know i dropped/forgot about a long time ago. ouran used to be good, awesome even, but then it stopped being funny and brought in typical shoujo drama. not voting in this one.

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» calstine on September 26th, 2015, 5:08am

Whoa, whoa. Ouran won!? And to think I actually imagined Natsume had a chance of beating it for 2nd place embarrassed

Well... I guess this goes to show how little in touch I am with fandom these days. I still read manga as much as I used to, but I quit fandom as a whole ages ago.

Quote from TaoPaiPai
best shoujo
Tenshi Kinryouku
i mean...angels and satan band together to fight god omg and then we have some incest and shoujo/shounen ai on top of it all

nothing even comes close

might be the best manga i have ever read

I've had TK on my computer for ages, but your comment spurred me on to nudge it way up my "To read" list. Thanks for that!

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» Shibiusa on September 27th, 2015, 9:55am

I'm glad Skip Beat didn't win. It seems the shoujo fandom isn't that lost nowadays... Because... Best shoujos? None of those that make it to the poll.

Fruits Basket, Kare Kano, Mars, Cat Street (!!!!!), Ludwig Kakumei, Kanata Kara, Yamamoto Zenjirou to Moushimasu, Reimei no Arcana, Taiyou no Ie... Even Sailor Moon! Those are my top shoujo choices, no doubt about it.

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