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New Release Policy - Completed Novel Chapters Only
We have decided that for novel releases, we are only allowing full chapter releases to be listed. No more of this chapter 3e-f stuff. Only submit the release once the entire chapter 3 is completely translated. This mainly affects groups like Baka-Tsuki, NanoDesu, and the smaller a0132.

For releases that are currently in the middle of a full chapter, we will allow you to complete the chapter with partial release listings. For example, the series Meiyaku no Leviathan (Novel) currently is on vol 3, ch 3a. You can submit a release for 3b and 3c; but once you get to ch4, you can only submit the release entry once the entire chapter has been translated.

This policy only affects novels and not manga, manhua, or manhwa. Policy is effective immediately.

- MU Staff
Posted by lambchopsil on 
November 5th 4:38pm
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» Jiin33 on November 5th, 2015, 9:49am

thank you! I think that this is a very helpful policy. it was annoying how one was unable to keep track of chapters with all those 3a, 3b, etc.

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» Super Gotenks on November 5th, 2015, 9:50am

Yeah, and I just hated how messy it looked. It was really getting out of hand since there's so many Novels on here now.

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» Draconic on November 5th, 2015, 10:15am

Are there any exceptions?

An example would be Douluo Dalu (Novel) (and the continuation). Since the original Web Novel is in chapter parts released seperately, and numbered with chapter x part y. (Another example would be Shen Yin Wang Zuo (Novel) but the translator renumbered that one.)

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» lambchopsil on November 5th, 2015, 2:03pm

For now, no exceptions

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» thevampirate on November 5th, 2015, 2:52pm

Douluo Dalu is a great example of why it shouldn't be done in parts. Tang Jia San Shao releases his works in chapter parts but they really are just parts of a whole chapter (usually), if released as parts Douluo Dalu 1 & 2 would be about 1500 releases each. He does that because he releases them pretty much non-stop and they are almost the length of a normal novel chapter (usually about 16 pages for douluo dalu). I've read SYWZ releases and while they are done well the chapters seem a bit disjointed and start and stop abruptly when viewed as parts.

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» Draconic on November 6th, 2015, 8:55am

Actually, we are not arguing about how they should be translated, but how they should be listed on mu.

I agree with you, reading Douluo Dalu as complete chapters was much better then SYWZ by parts. Especially since SYWZ was renumbered, and it made much more difficult to look for the next part in the raws...

My question was whether there are / will be any exceptions for the rule for cases like this. There are a lot of extreme cases, and I guess some will have to be decided by the staff when people want to add the release.
Another extreme case would be Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria (Novel) vol 1. I don't think anyone tried to list all the chapters on mu, but other similar novels might appear, so I think it can be important to consider some exceptions (probably only applying to specific novels).

ed.: Sorry if it's not obvious, I also approve of the change. Just trying to be constructive smilesmile

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» Quantum Mechanic on November 5th, 2015, 10:19am

Sounds good to me. While I support listing novel updates here, that was more than a little ridiculous.

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» That3rdGuy on November 5th, 2015, 11:02am

Stop posting "novel" releases all together, I say. Doesn't really fall under the manga category w/out pages full of panels.

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» illustrator on November 5th, 2015, 12:08pm

Quote from That3rdGuy
Stop posting "novel" releases all together, I say. Doesn't really fall under the manga category w/out pages full of panels.



Thats quite selfish point of view I would say... I mean you can just hide the novel releases from releases page if you dont want to see them yourself, but there are many other users that mainly use the site for novels only.

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» Kitsame on November 6th, 2015, 9:08am

How 'bout you stop living, since you're annoying me.

I read about 70 LN's and this site is my lifeline

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» toshirodragon on November 5th, 2015, 1:42pm

Can we get a tic box for BLOCKING Novel releases? I'm not about to ever read a novel translated by amatuers, hell the official translations are horrible enough.

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» Aleph0 on November 5th, 2015, 4:08pm

As a stopgap you can try https://www.mangaupdates.com/releases.html?page=1&ex clude_type=Novel .

However, such a URL syntax is only useful if you want to hide a single category.
If for example you don't want to see neither Manhua nor Manhwa, you'll have to wait for the developers to implement the feature...

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» airdale on November 6th, 2015, 11:34pm

I agree that this would be useful. The "Advanced search by genre" page is extremely useful. There is an option, "Only show results for 'Novel.'" It would be nice to have the opposite option too.

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» Moirae on November 8th, 2015, 1:01am

It'd be nice if they would let us add Novel like shoujo/shounen/hentai as a genre tag. I know it's not technically a genre, but I don't think it would bother many people and that way it could be filtered out of releases using the genre filter.

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» SilverStorm on November 5th, 2015, 1:45pm

I am okay with this.

Even though I'm a big novel reader, I will agree that without the filter, the releases page is bit out of hand.

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» jonytep on November 5th, 2015, 3:15pm

Great! 10 internet points for the admins of mangaupdates!

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» deadphoenix on November 5th, 2015, 3:37pm

this is what I call an improvement.
I was annoyed with all the a, b, c,d, etc.
Full chapter that's how it needs to be.

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» kaloo on November 5th, 2015, 4:01pm

I dislike these on everything, except when it is actually up to date and that's how the original is being released.

Why are you letting people post releases for part of a manga chapter?

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» Moirae on November 6th, 2015, 2:02am

Some manga have strange chapter numbering or just really long chapters. Off the top of my head one good example that I can remember is Ookiku Furikabutte. The current magazine releases aren't split up, but the first 14 volumes scanlated from tankobon had a different chapter number system. One tankoban would usually be around 220 pages but only contain 1-3 chapters. One time a chapter was about 300 pages and spanned more than one volume. These huge chapter releases were split up into a, b, c... and they were still quite large, averaging 50-60 pages.

Also sometimes I see .1 .2 .3 or 1/2 used for omakes, extras and specials that aren't actually part of a chapter release.

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» kaloo on November 6th, 2015, 6:39pm

I mean that is almost the same situation. The web novel release is like chapters 1-5 and the light novel rolls those all into a combined Chapter 1 with multiple parts.

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» Moirae on November 8th, 2015, 12:55am

No, it's really not. Each release is around 50-60 pages, which is about 1-2 months worth of a serialized manga. It's not like these are daily releases cluttering up the front page or even weeklies like shounen jump series, but more like every month or two.

If part releases were prohibited, in this situation the scan group would have to finish the entire volume/book in order to post here which generally takes 4-6 months. Possibly longer, if they have to wait for the second volume containing the end of the chapter to be published. In that time the scanlator group could even be listed as inactive and fans might think the project dropped/dead.

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» Sircus on November 5th, 2015, 5:41pm

Can I customize releases to show only novels and what I marked with "reading"?

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» VawX on November 5th, 2015, 6:18pm

Well... this is actually good as now we got so many novel releases, instead of blocking the novel, this move is a lot smoother mmm...

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» calstine on November 5th, 2015, 6:42pm

That's one way to try and decrease the endless novel release clutter, and about the only way you're going to be able to exert some control without 30% of the user base staging a revolt, I guess. Good idea, admins!

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» Gradonil_Ral on November 6th, 2015, 11:31am

After seeing the title, I thought you meant there would only be added releases for finished novels. I'm glad that's not the case ^^;
Seems like a pretty sound policy. But I'd change the title to something like: "New Novel Release Policy - Full Chapters Only".

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» tPior9ranZP63nLu on November 7th, 2015, 6:11am

I'd really like a "type" filter in control panel. Something similar to the current genre filter.

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» MinatoAce on November 8th, 2015, 4:14am

That's goes well with me, Indeed.
I'm an avid reader of LNs, but, I certainly can see it.
It was seriously a mess and a quite annoying one. And Keeping track of new releases becomes quite tricky that way as well.

And long as it doesn't affect Manga/Manhwa/Manhua, it all good for me.

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