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New Poll - Living for the Future
This week's introspective poll was suggested by jacob66 A lot of our lives are spent with the future in mind, such as saving up money for retirement or climbing the corporate ladder. When will that stop?

You can submit poll ideas here
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: Which group of people is happier and/or more satisfied with their life?
Choices:
Smart people - votes: 627 (19%)
Dumb people - votes: 2667 (81%)
There were 3294 total votes.
The poll ended: March 19th, 2022 3:12pm PDT

So should we be dumber?
Posted by lambchopsil on 
March 19th 3:16pm
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» residentgrigo on March 19th, 2022, 4:09pm

70 years old. So when I am retired. Age 67 here but I have been saving up since age 20 to do that a few years sooner.

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» Katsono on March 22nd, 2022, 1:57pm

Quote from residentgrigo
70 years old. So when I am retired. Age 67 here but I have been saving up since age 20 to do that a few years sooner.


Now I know how you've read that many things!

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» Lemon Ice on March 19th, 2022, 4:46pm

20 years, obviously. If you don‘t enjoy yourself and live in the moment while doing all the things mentioned at the same time…. well, then you are just bad at being a human.
Those things aren‘t mutually exclusive, after all…

Also, what kind of idiot stops exercising and eating right at ANY age? lol

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» Alimeru on March 19th, 2022, 9:51pm

Quote from Lemon Ice
Also, what kind of idiot stops exercising and eating right at ANY age? lol


This confused me too. Why would you stop exercising and eating right at any age unless you want an early death?

I voted 60 because I'll probably be retired between 60-70, so that seems like a good time to stop any extreme money saving/job related stuff.

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» kurotaito on March 20th, 2022, 2:56pm

Totally, agree that this activities aren't mutually exclusive. I've been enjoying my life since the moment I was born, and I am not going to stop.

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» VawX on March 19th, 2022, 7:44pm

Around my retirement age I guess, so it's 60-70 mmm...
I'll probably cashing out all my investment at that point and enjoy my life with my family mmm...

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» KaoriNite on March 20th, 2022, 7:17am

As others have mentioned, some of the actions listed as "acting for the future" don't really make sense to me. Like what if someone is just ambitious and likes climbing the corporate ladder? And raising a family as well. Maybe you don't have as much time to focus on yourself as an individual when you're raising little kids, but people generally aren't raising kids to get something out of it in the future.

Anyways, I feel like there should be a combination of living in the moment and living for the future, rather than a specific age where you just stop caring about the future and only care about the present. We never know what to expect in life, we could die in the next moment or live another 50 years. You have to figure out a balance of enjoying the now while also thinking ahead.

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» YuriM on March 20th, 2022, 4:27pm

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climbing corporate ladder
Never did it (freelancer)
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saving money, eating right, exercising, raise family, etc
When I'll die. Supposedly at 200+, but who knows...
One can't "enjoy himself" without physical, mental and social health.

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» HikaruYami on March 21st, 2022, 9:27am

A lot of people are taking the examples in the question too seriously and are ignoring the spirit of the question, imo. Anyone answering 20~40 either has super rich parents or is planning a miserable end of life with no savings lol.

I plan to retire at 60. I'm a pretty well-paid software engineer in a medium-sized city (Boston), I'm only 30 right now but I do have over 600k in total saved when you include retirement accounts, so retiring on the early end is a pretty safe bet unless the economy gets mega-tanked and never recovers. Which is certainly a possibility and I'd probably never stop working if it happened, sadly.

I already spend probably 60 hours a week doing "fun stuff", reading manga (including at work lol), playing video games, etc. So my life is pretty good. But if I do make it to retirement at 60 then I plan to live even more relaxed. So that's what I voted for, 60 years old.

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» vigorousjammer on March 21st, 2022, 12:07pm

I'm ignoring the examples, since I already don't do a lot of that stuff. My savings is minimal, I don't climb the corporate ladder (or have any interest in doing so), I don't especially eat right or wrong (no overeating or extremely healthy eating, just average consumption), The only exercise I get is at work, and I don't plan on having kids or raising a family.

Personally, I consider myself as somebody who lives for both the future and the present. That is, I'm not going to sacrifice things currently in order to try and secure a good future, but I'm also not going to sacrifice my future just to do as much as possible right now.

There's a middleground.

The answer I chose is 70, since I'll probably be retired at that point, and probably won't think as much about the future. However, I'm also not going to start abusing alcohol or get addicted to some other kind of hardcore drugs. That's just silly.

I guess my real answer is, I'll always live for the future a little bit, but I think 70 is the age where I'll start to not be as concerned about certain aspects of it.

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» HikaruYami on March 24th, 2022, 7:17am

Yo man, I'm not trying to bring you down, but if your savings is minimal you should definitely watch out for the possibility of not retiring at 70 since a lot of our politicians are trying really hard to completely nuke social security.

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» Melrakki on March 22nd, 2022, 4:35am

I feel like this is a pretty loaded question. It's assuming nobody is currently focusing on enjoying themselves and being in the moment rather than just on their careers etc.

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» Joese on March 22nd, 2022, 8:48am

30 I guess, I'll be searching more towards stability.

Though why would anyone stop being healthy/saving for that. Most of the stuff I want to do will be imposible to do in one go after I retire, so one of my main objectives is living life to the fullest since most chances in life only come by once. And with this I mean that some of the best plans I can think of all require some knowledge, practice, planning and even being fit. I see no purpose in working with retirement in mind, I feel as if that would living a life only thinking on death.

How am I supposed to speak other languages if I don't start learning them beforehand (same times you don't even have the chance or time to learn them) or how do you know in what plans others/life will want to involve you in ?. I don't even know if the border will be open for us when making plans with my friends to go to Morocco in the near future. 😕

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» Senrosj on March 22nd, 2022, 2:21pm

I took the question as: "At what age are you going to stop the activities you only do for your future." Basically, chores you don't enjoy doing.

I don't know. I actually enjoy watching my investments grow, so I'd probably still try to do that even after I retire. Probably after I get enough passive income every month to live from. With my current trajectory, it will never happen, but I'd like to reach it when I'm 40-50, so I'll choose 50 years old.

The only thing I don't really enjoy doing is working lol. Exercising might not be always fun, but I want to have a body I can actually use to do the things I want to do. Same for eating ok enough. So I'd do more or less the same at that point, but I'd only work when I want to.

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» hkanz on March 22nd, 2022, 4:32pm

I’m a long-distance hiker, and there are people who do long hikes in retirement (I met one guy who was eighty-something), but those people are really lucky to still be in a condition where they can hike all day every day for months with a backpack. So I have no career and do contract work to be able to take months off each year. If I’m a miserable old person because I didn’t compile millions of dollars by structuring my life around work, so be it, but I expect that I’ll be more concerned about my arthritis, encroaching senility, the hellish state of the world and so on.

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» Sugarshark on March 23rd, 2022, 7:44pm

I think my ability to worry about other things is a core value and is intrinsically tied to my sense of self
I will never shut it off
hopefully

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