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New Poll - Jaywalking
This week's poll was suggested by lollylopmr. How often will you follow the rules while walking at an intersection?
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http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903
Previous Poll Results:
Question: Does colored manga, manhwa, manhua, or webtoon make a difference to you?
Choices:
Definitely agree: I only read full color - votes: 104 (4.2%)
Somewhat agree: I like color and would prefer it - votes: 423 (16.9%)
Neutral: Either is fine as long as I like the plot and art - votes: 1157 (46.2%)
Somewhat Disagree: It doesn't matter but it is always nice to see my favorites in color - votes: 240 (9.6%)
Definitely Disagree: Color has no impact on how I choose what to read - votes: 578 (23.1%)
There were 2502 total votes.
The poll ended: September 21st, 2024 10:37am PDT
Looks like most people don't care, but more people are starting to prefer color over greyscale
You can submit poll ideas here
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903
Previous Poll Results:
Question: Does colored manga, manhwa, manhua, or webtoon make a difference to you?
Choices:
Definitely agree: I only read full color - votes: 104 (4.2%)
Somewhat agree: I like color and would prefer it - votes: 423 (16.9%)
Neutral: Either is fine as long as I like the plot and art - votes: 1157 (46.2%)
Somewhat Disagree: It doesn't matter but it is always nice to see my favorites in color - votes: 240 (9.6%)
Definitely Disagree: Color has no impact on how I choose what to read - votes: 578 (23.1%)
There were 2502 total votes.
The poll ended: September 21st, 2024 10:37am PDT
Looks like most people don't care, but more people are starting to prefer color over greyscale
Comments (limited to first 100 replies)
» Erratic-Hopper on September 21st, 2024, 10:47am
Ooh, looks like I was one of the first 2 voters...
I jaywalk pretty often, when I can't be bothered to a) wait for the light or b) walk all the way to the crossing. It's like a hobby now. Sometimes I have to sprint across... but I (almost) always look both ways first.
I jaywalk pretty often, when I can't be bothered to a) wait for the light or b) walk all the way to the crossing. It's like a hobby now. Sometimes I have to sprint across... but I (almost) always look both ways first.
» Trimutius on September 21st, 2024, 11:19am
Never jaywalk... In fact even if it signals that i can cross i will still double check that some idiot on a car isn't running a red light first... (Several years ago one idiot like that almost ran me over)
» YuriM on September 21st, 2024, 11:28am
Currently they are testing cameras in Moscow to detect jaywalkers and send fines automatically. So, never again.
» Yunwu on September 21st, 2024, 12:36pm
Never. I don't want to die for being an idiot.
» Ruruskadoo on September 21st, 2024, 2:13pm
I didn't grow up in the city, and I've spent much more of my time either being a passenger or a driver than I have being a pedestrian at crosswalks, so I detest jaywalking and never do it when I'm a pedestrian myself.
I guess it doesn't matter so much if you can really be sure that there are no cars around and there won't be any around until long after you're out of the street (although I still won't do it myself), and I also don't count it as jaywalking if it's in an area that simply doesn't have any crosswalks since there's no choice there, but damn I see these morons running across busy streets sometimes not far from an intersection, and I can't help but think "Are you suicidal, or are you really that trusting that I'm paying enough attention not to hit you?" Often they'll do it at night too, dressed all in dark clothing with no light from their phones or anything, just assuming I'll definitely see them.
I don't text and drive, but I had a friend in high school who claimed it was fine because she could "steer with her knees" (horrible, I know), and you never know when someone could be distracted with their screaming kid, too drowsy to notice you fast enough, driving while intoxicated, unable to see you well because of the weather conditions, or for whatever reason they just don't see you in time to stop, so why on earth do these people have so much faith in drivers?
It makes me think they must not be frequent drivers themselves. I've hit enough deer even when I was paying full attention that I sure as hell wouldn't have such blind faith in me, it only takes one moment of me not looking at the right spot, seeing you there, and realizing you're waiting for your chance to dash across the road for you to be horribly injured, crippled for life, or killed. When the road's busy like that, I'm probably mostly looking at the other cars, not spending every moment scanning the sidewalks for idiots.
I guess it doesn't matter so much if you can really be sure that there are no cars around and there won't be any around until long after you're out of the street (although I still won't do it myself), and I also don't count it as jaywalking if it's in an area that simply doesn't have any crosswalks since there's no choice there, but damn I see these morons running across busy streets sometimes not far from an intersection, and I can't help but think "Are you suicidal, or are you really that trusting that I'm paying enough attention not to hit you?" Often they'll do it at night too, dressed all in dark clothing with no light from their phones or anything, just assuming I'll definitely see them.
I don't text and drive, but I had a friend in high school who claimed it was fine because she could "steer with her knees" (horrible, I know), and you never know when someone could be distracted with their screaming kid, too drowsy to notice you fast enough, driving while intoxicated, unable to see you well because of the weather conditions, or for whatever reason they just don't see you in time to stop, so why on earth do these people have so much faith in drivers?
It makes me think they must not be frequent drivers themselves. I've hit enough deer even when I was paying full attention that I sure as hell wouldn't have such blind faith in me, it only takes one moment of me not looking at the right spot, seeing you there, and realizing you're waiting for your chance to dash across the road for you to be horribly injured, crippled for life, or killed. When the road's busy like that, I'm probably mostly looking at the other cars, not spending every moment scanning the sidewalks for idiots.
» VawX on September 21st, 2024, 7:45pm
Where I am now, jaywalking is relatively common, though I try to not jaywalk IF the crosswalk is nearby mmm...
But yeah, if there's no cars and the road is not that wide, I tend to jaywalk mmm...
But yeah, if there's no cars and the road is not that wide, I tend to jaywalk mmm...
» mallika23 on September 21st, 2024, 8:26pm
In my country, most of the times you're not getting anywhere if you simply wait for the traffic lights.
I often have to go across the road on zebra cross, but there's no traffic light at all. 😂 And most of the times, the zebra crosses are only for decoration. Motors and cars usually were using it to wait for the green lamp to turn.
So, yeah, I choose situational jaywalk.
I often have to go across the road on zebra cross, but there's no traffic light at all. 😂 And most of the times, the zebra crosses are only for decoration. Motors and cars usually were using it to wait for the green lamp to turn.
So, yeah, I choose situational jaywalk.
» zarlan on September 21st, 2024, 10:08pm
Jaywalking is very much an American word.
Invented by car manufacturers, when cars were a new thing, to shift blame on traffic accidents from cars and car speeds, to pedestrians.
If there is a signal, I tend to wait for the signal, but if it's clear there are no cars, I have nothing against crossing, anyway. It's perfectly safe to do so, so there's no reason not too.
Also, crossing a road, even though it's not at a crossing, when you can see that there are no cars...
same thing.
Also, neither of the above are illegal, in most of the world, as most countries recognize that there is no rational reason to ban it, as it's perfectly safe, as long as you look both ways before crossing. (crossing recklessly, without looking, on the other hand...)
That said, I've seen videos of American roads, and I'd be afraid of crossing them, regardless of crossings or signals.
North American roads (Canada includef) are utterly crazy, and completetly alien to non-Americans.
Invented by car manufacturers, when cars were a new thing, to shift blame on traffic accidents from cars and car speeds, to pedestrians.
If there is a signal, I tend to wait for the signal, but if it's clear there are no cars, I have nothing against crossing, anyway. It's perfectly safe to do so, so there's no reason not too.
Also, crossing a road, even though it's not at a crossing, when you can see that there are no cars...
same thing.
Also, neither of the above are illegal, in most of the world, as most countries recognize that there is no rational reason to ban it, as it's perfectly safe, as long as you look both ways before crossing. (crossing recklessly, without looking, on the other hand...)
That said, I've seen videos of American roads, and I'd be afraid of crossing them, regardless of crossings or signals.
North American roads (Canada includef) are utterly crazy, and completetly alien to non-Americans.
» amy_levi on September 22nd, 2024, 10:05am
The people who chose the third option are either lying or incurably dumb. Probably both.
I rarely jaywalk, only when there's really no car anywhere in sight and no child (don't wanna be a bad influence).
What makes me sick is that, at least in my country, the law by default always places part of the blame on car drivers, even if an accident was entirely the pedestrian's fault. If someone is utterly stupid, they should bear all the consequences themselves.
I rarely jaywalk, only when there's really no car anywhere in sight and no child (don't wanna be a bad influence).
What makes me sick is that, at least in my country, the law by default always places part of the blame on car drivers, even if an accident was entirely the pedestrian's fault. If someone is utterly stupid, they should bear all the consequences themselves.
» qazmlpok on September 22nd, 2024, 6:52pm
Always jaywalk.
If I cross at a traffic light, there are 4 places cars might come from. I can't see all of the lights to be certain they're red, and people can turn right on red still. And when turning right, drivers look to their left for other cars, not where they're going.
If I cross in the middle of the street, cars only come from 2 places and I can just make sure there's a gap.
If I cross at a traffic light, there are 4 places cars might come from. I can't see all of the lights to be certain they're red, and people can turn right on red still. And when turning right, drivers look to their left for other cars, not where they're going.
If I cross in the middle of the street, cars only come from 2 places and I can just make sure there's a gap.
» Ceiye on September 22nd, 2024, 9:13pm
I want to jaywalk out of spite at this point. I am a pedestrian in a predominantly impatient car driver area and those fuckers honk at me when I've got right of way because they can't wait five seconds to turn right on red. I fantasize about having a ball and chain to wave around to make sure those drivers don't get near me. Like you can SEE that there are people crossing the street and you're inching CLOSER to the crosswalk?? Asshole that won't save you even half a second
However I also value my life so they will stay fantasies as I do not jaywalk because you never know when some fucker will go 70 down a street
However I also value my life so they will stay fantasies as I do not jaywalk because you never know when some fucker will go 70 down a street
» CheshireCaine on September 22nd, 2024, 11:44pm
Situationally is normal where I’m from, which makes living somewhere it isn’t a massive pain. Feels fully oppressive to be expected to wait on an light at an empty crossroads 😂. But I’m at least considerate enough not to do it in front of lil kids. ðŸ˜
P.S. Firmly in the camp of jaywalking isn’t a crime unless you’re tryna pretend it’s normal for drivers to be texting or watching TV instead of the road.
P.S. Firmly in the camp of jaywalking isn’t a crime unless you’re tryna pretend it’s normal for drivers to be texting or watching TV instead of the road.
» Sugarshark on September 23rd, 2024, 9:18am
they jaywalk in the rain
at night
when the sun is at it's highest and the glare is impossible
they're only alive because you're super diligent
at night
when the sun is at it's highest and the glare is impossible
they're only alive because you're super diligent
» hkanz on September 23rd, 2024, 12:19pm
I pretty much never jaywalk. If the streets are genuinely deserted then sure, I’ll cross, but if there are any death machines in sight, I’ll wait for the light. I remember being in Italy and cars not stopping for pedestrians at crosswalks on busy roads, and you had to actually step out into traffic to force them to stop. It was terrifying. I used fellow pedestrians as shields
» thehamzatsuit on September 23rd, 2024, 9:37pm
The fact that such a terrible word like "Jaywalking" exists in English is fascinating. Is the English-speaking world really that much brainwashed by the auto industry? Oh to be a pedestrian at an intersection "for cars"!
You cross the road when it's empty, you cross the road when both you and the oncoming driver can understand each other's intent, you cross the road when the light for pedestrians is green and the vehicles visibly halt.
Your time and energy isn't worth walking towards the intentionally non-strategically placed crosswalks, where not even the green lights and crosswalk boundaries guarantee the safety of your life.
You cross the road when it's empty, you cross the road when both you and the oncoming driver can understand each other's intent, you cross the road when the light for pedestrians is green and the vehicles visibly halt.
Your time and energy isn't worth walking towards the intentionally non-strategically placed crosswalks, where not even the green lights and crosswalk boundaries guarantee the safety of your life.
» zarlan on September 25th, 2024, 4:08am
Quote from thehamzatsuit
The fact that such a terrible word like "Jaywalking" exists in English is fascinating. Is the English-speaking world really that much brainwashed by the auto industry?
Nah, I think it's just Americans who are brainwashed by the car industry. (and it is, indeed, the car industry, who invented the term and concept. This is well documented)
And that's actually one of the mildest examples, by far, of how thoroughly Americans have been brainwashed by the car industry.
» blackluna on September 28th, 2024, 8:07pm
It has nothing to do with brainwashing or the auto-industry (that sounds like a conspiracy theory from the start).
For starters, traffic accidents were also a problem before cars (for example, Marie Curie's husband, Pierre Curie, died from slipping in front the wheels of a horse-drawn cart and getting runover).
The term was first recorded in 1912, and originates in the earlier term "jay-drivers" for people who drove carriages or, later, cars on the wrong side of the road (first recorded in 1905).
"Jaywalking" originally, and technically, refers to pedestrians crossing or walking in defiance of vehicular traffic (mostly, in the face of oncoming traffic — Darwin Award worthy, for the most part). Due to the increase in total traffic in urban locations, the term has been extended to crossing the street at any point other than street corners or crosswalks — but for most countries the Law only bothers with pedestrians' crossing locations or walking in the road when an accident occurs (which is why it's on the books at all in the United States, and only as a misdemeanour; the United Kingdom and the Crown Dependencies don't have such laws, in part because of how their settlements and roads developed — prior to the carriages becoming popular, let alone the advent of the car).
As for civil law countries, they mostly follow the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic. It's all within common sense — and enforcement of the laws follows suit. Overall, the application of the law is more "if it's a high speed area, or there's a crosswalk in sight, don't think of crossing anywhere but the crosswalk" than "roads are for vehicles, pedestrians must yield" (which seems to be what you both are implying the American auto-industry to be in favour of).
The locations with the strictest laws are not the United States or the Commonwealth of Nations, nor typical Civil Law countries, but in nations like France on one hand (culturally, the French prefer to have laws about everything, but enforcement for non-felonies is more by severity), but in practice nations with long histories of authoritarian governance, such as Russia or China, are stricter.
For starters, traffic accidents were also a problem before cars (for example, Marie Curie's husband, Pierre Curie, died from slipping in front the wheels of a horse-drawn cart and getting runover).
The term was first recorded in 1912, and originates in the earlier term "jay-drivers" for people who drove carriages or, later, cars on the wrong side of the road (first recorded in 1905).
"Jaywalking" originally, and technically, refers to pedestrians crossing or walking in defiance of vehicular traffic (mostly, in the face of oncoming traffic — Darwin Award worthy, for the most part). Due to the increase in total traffic in urban locations, the term has been extended to crossing the street at any point other than street corners or crosswalks — but for most countries the Law only bothers with pedestrians' crossing locations or walking in the road when an accident occurs (which is why it's on the books at all in the United States, and only as a misdemeanour; the United Kingdom and the Crown Dependencies don't have such laws, in part because of how their settlements and roads developed — prior to the carriages becoming popular, let alone the advent of the car).
As for civil law countries, they mostly follow the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic. It's all within common sense — and enforcement of the laws follows suit. Overall, the application of the law is more "if it's a high speed area, or there's a crosswalk in sight, don't think of crossing anywhere but the crosswalk" than "roads are for vehicles, pedestrians must yield" (which seems to be what you both are implying the American auto-industry to be in favour of).
The locations with the strictest laws are not the United States or the Commonwealth of Nations, nor typical Civil Law countries, but in nations like France on one hand (culturally, the French prefer to have laws about everything, but enforcement for non-felonies is more by severity), but in practice nations with long histories of authoritarian governance, such as Russia or China, are stricter.
» Jendrej on September 27th, 2024, 8:47am
I’m really careful about jaywalking after the police caught me once, even though I didn’t get a fine, only a warning.
» blackluna on September 28th, 2024, 7:07pm
Situational jaywalking is normal in my area (and most of the world, actually). As long as you look both ways, you're basically fine (always crossing at a crosswalk (or street corners) won't save you from a speeding moron).
The only time I was nearly runover was when a pair of idiots were speeding down the sharply-curved crosswalk-less street I lived on… only four years after a guy had gotten his car wrapped around a tree doing the the same damn thing. What's more, the guy who had his car totalled was way smarter — his accident was on a Saturday night in April (the street had the back of the high school) and he was going uphill, the idiots who nearly hit me were going downhill at about 40 mph on a 25 mph street at 4:30 pm on a rainy weekday with ice still on the ground from the last storm of the season (I wouldn't have been surprised if they'd hit the house opposite the street at the T-intersection at the bottom of the hill; there was no way they would have been able to stop at the sign there, since it takes more than 6 to 8 yards to slow down at that speed, especially at that steep a grade). And yes, the guy who wrecked his car came out of it fine and never did anything of that ilk again.
So yeah, only crossing at crosswalks or corners when there's no apparent traffic doesn't actually reduce risk factors — anyone who is being that careless isn't thinking that far (and should have their license revoked).
The only time I was nearly runover was when a pair of idiots were speeding down the sharply-curved crosswalk-less street I lived on… only four years after a guy had gotten his car wrapped around a tree doing the the same damn thing. What's more, the guy who had his car totalled was way smarter — his accident was on a Saturday night in April (the street had the back of the high school) and he was going uphill, the idiots who nearly hit me were going downhill at about 40 mph on a 25 mph street at 4:30 pm on a rainy weekday with ice still on the ground from the last storm of the season (I wouldn't have been surprised if they'd hit the house opposite the street at the T-intersection at the bottom of the hill; there was no way they would have been able to stop at the sign there, since it takes more than 6 to 8 yards to slow down at that speed, especially at that steep a grade). And yes, the guy who wrecked his car came out of it fine and never did anything of that ilk again.
So yeah, only crossing at crosswalks or corners when there's no apparent traffic doesn't actually reduce risk factors — anyone who is being that careless isn't thinking that far (and should have their license revoked).
