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Previous Poll Results:
Question: What types of comics do you mostly read nowadays?
Choices:
Japanese manga - votes: 2113 (51%)
Korean manhwa - votes: 893 (21.5%)
Chinese manhua - votes: 108 (2.6%)
English webtoons - votes: 63 (1.5%)
English comics - votes: 38 (0.9%)
Equal mixture of some choices above - votes: 897 (21.6%)
Other - votes: 32 (0.8%)
There were 4144 total votes.
The poll ended: March 12th, 2022 11:36pm PST
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Comments (limited to first 100 replies)
» saltylettuce on March 13th, 2022, 12:29am
Dumb people will constantly put themselves into bad situations with no recourse, whereas someone smart should be able to recognise what they need to do to improve their life.
» Joese on March 14th, 2022, 12:40pm
But for the average dumb person is probably conscious about their limits given how hard life is for those unaware,getting cheated ,used ... it must be hell trying stuff you can't achieve , a whole other level of impotence to what a smart person can feel. 😕
» HikaruYami on March 15th, 2022, 7:42am
Honestly, I'm unusually good at compartmentalizing (which isn't a "smart people" skill, it's just a thing I can do). Most people I knew at MIT were miserable for a wide variety of reasons, most of which they couldn't reasonably do much about (some of which they could, I admit, but they were also very focused on other things). And many dumb people consider themselves satisfied with life because they are simply ignorant of what they could've otherwise done, while *also* not focusing on broader issues plaguing this awful world (for example, anyone with young kids right now is TERRIFIED of global warming if they're smart, and constantly wondering if bringing kids into the world was even the right call. But if they're dumb they don't care and assume the smart people will work it out).
» Lemon Ice on March 15th, 2022, 11:47am
Also, why would people be terrified of climate change? Unless you live in a 3rd world country, climate change is unlikely to effect you much. Sure, things will change, but change isn‘t inherently bad. It seems you have a very black and white thinking.
» alidan on March 16th, 2022, 10:20pm
If you are smart, you are looking at the price of meat and realize that's an item that inflates in value fast, how bad is this going to get and will it ever end?
If you are dumb you look at russia and say russia bad
If you are smart you know the resources that they both provide to the things you like doing and are realizing gpus may never go down in price again, we may never have a 'mid range' price gpu
dumb people aren't stupid, they are just taking the world as it is in that moment, while smart people are think several steps farther ahead.
» HikaruYami on March 24th, 2022, 7:15am
» alidan on March 16th, 2022, 10:27pm
Had people done what I asked, and then followed up with every other thing I asked, I would have as of today about 300 million, as of about 2 months ago about 500 million. and this is conservative amounts of money, assuming people dragged their ass on pulling it out or putting it into what I wanted. there was my one chance, and I got dicked by everyone around me.
today, I'm still fairly smart, but I have a broken body that can't really do anything, so im coasting on good will of family till im dead however that plays out.
I can not properly describe how depressed I get everytime I think about this topic, because I can't blame myself, and I can't fully blame people around me either, but I literally saw my once in a lifetime shot get killed because people didn't do what I asked with my money. if I was dumber, I may have forgotten about this, or maybe I would just assume life will get better, even though every year it just gets that little bit worse.
» Lemon Ice on March 17th, 2022, 1:08am
It seems you got dealt a bad hand in life and are now complaining about it. That‘s not smart. That‘s dumb. Smart people take responsibility, don’t get hung up on past events, and turn their life around.
You might be more intelligent (IQ) than the average, but like I said: smart ≠intelligent.
You might profit from working with a therapist to deal with your past. There‘s no shame in seeking help.
» Aremon on March 13th, 2022, 1:24am
» Lemon Ice on March 13th, 2022, 3:32am
Therefore: being happy = smart.
I‘m suprised that almost 90% got the wrong answer. Guess those 90% aren‘t that smart, after all….
» Jooles on March 13th, 2022, 4:45am
(edit: Though regardless, kudos on you for calling out HikaruYami on his complete lack of self-awareness. That shit got stale years ago.)
» Lemon Ice on March 13th, 2022, 7:09am
And that sounds like the definition of dumbness. (Dumb=not able to design strategies and take appropriate actions to reach a certain outcome)
Wouldn‘t you agree?
And I have no idea who this person you refer to in your Edit is.
» Jooles on March 13th, 2022, 3:06pm
» amy_levi on March 14th, 2022, 11:15am
» HikaruYami on March 15th, 2022, 7:45am
Edit: I followed up on the "call out" and can confirm that I was right all along 😉
» kurotaito on March 13th, 2022, 3:52am
» Trimutius on March 13th, 2022, 4:42am
Though i suppose dumb people aren't truly paper, neither are smasrt.
Wise people are the ones who usually find true happiness... But dumb people FEEL happier and more satisfied still, and too dumb to realize that they shouldn't be...
» poncow5 on March 13th, 2022, 9:38am
» mattai on March 13th, 2022, 1:41pm
An ignorant person can be happy because they don't know about a looming problem on the horizon, but a dumb person isn't inherently less informed than a smart person about their life's problems, they're just worse equipped to solve said problems.
» Senrosj on March 13th, 2022, 4:55pm
I chose dumb people, because I think you can only be happy, if you can truly accept yourself (which I don't think many do) or if you have no recollection of the past. A being with no brain might to be happy (can you be happy if you can't think?), but they also don't suffer mentally, that being would just live and do its thing until it perishes, and I see that somewhat as a win and somewhat as happiness. It's not quite happiness, it's more like lack of suffering. Not thinking about the past, the present or the future, not thinking about survival or any kind of worry... It's not that you are confident enough to be able to not worry about your survival, your past, etc. you just don't think about it. It's a twisted way to "achieve happiness".
» Sugarshark on March 13th, 2022, 6:31pm
if you're dumb you'll never identify the factors that contribute to your unhappiness and make changes to achieve it
if you're a brain but you can't turn it off because of the worlds inequities you'll never be happy agonizing over all the problems your galaxy brain should be solving
I think sitting in a social circle of like-minded people can artificially make you dumb(and happy)
» Bog Initiate on March 13th, 2022, 9:27pm
» flowinmyboat on March 13th, 2022, 10:45pm
» Lemon Ice on March 14th, 2022, 9:57am
So if we assume that a smart and a dumb person both have the goal of „being happy/contend/satisfied“, then, by definition, the smart person MUST be happier (or happy for a longer time) than the dumb person. If it‘s the other way around, the „dumb“ person is actually the smart one. Since the definitions imply that a smart person will be better able to be happy.
If we‘re talking about general intelligence though… well, emotional and social intelligence are certainly more important than cognitive intelligence (=IQ).
» hkanz on March 14th, 2022, 10:36am
» Joese on March 14th, 2022, 12:10pm
But knowing you're dumb must be terrifying, so concretely dumb people and people who overestimate their intelligence (and never get themselves into a dangerous situation because of it).
I general people who overestimate themselves in certain aspects are usually happy about it.
» mallika23 on March 14th, 2022, 5:23pm
But, if we're talking about who's happier, I wouldn't say smart people are happier. They would know what happened around them, and they might know if someone's talking bad about them behind their back. They also know how to act responding certain situations. However, even if they could act ignorant, they still could feel hurt about that.
I know this polling is only for fun, but I don't think I could choose either of them 😂
» melepem on March 16th, 2022, 6:07pm
Some people are dumb and happy, others are dumb and sad, or smart and happy, or smart and sad. It's just the matter what you believe is the correct proportion of those categories. Not to mention, no one is happy all the time. There are sad times.
» Peep on March 17th, 2022, 11:43pm
Not everybody lives in a free society or so called "land of opportunities", add the population of Europe and NA together and it is a tiny fraction of the world.
One of my previous tutors lived in China with her husband (they are Europeans) during the cultural revolution, she was shocked to see doctors working in fields while people were left untreated. Educated people (as well as land owners, people that studied overseas etc) were targeted specifically for these kind of admonishments.
There have been pogrom in Russia before where they killed/expelled the Jews, because dumb people are happy to scapegoat others like that. During the USSR students and professors were regarded as "social parasites", hence why they had a lot of screwed up policies implemented.
Another thing to consider is potential vs challenge, or self-actualization. If you don't feel mentally stimulated this can lead to you becoming unhappier, but if the opportunities in the area are all unchallenging then the person has little choice.
I am pretty sure there are farmers in Africa that are probably smarter than any of us here, but they don't have the opportunity to tap into that. *Maybe* some people get a loan if they can get the collateral, iunno, but what if there is some force majeure that ruined their business such as flooding or earthquakes. Having the ability to learn quicker or make decent decisions does not mean you can account for everything. So being smarter cans et your bar for being happier higher than a normal person might have, and maybe opportunities don't allow that person to reach the bar.
There's also a social aspect, the smarter you are, the more of a minority you are. Which can lead to you being socially ostracized in some places, or sometimes not being able to form meaningful friendships.
I watched a movie a while ago, "5 Easy Pieces", it is by no means a universal fit since people have personality traits beyond just their intellectual prowess, still, part of the story it presented was a man who found very little comfort in his life, and even one of his friends confronted him on why he works at the job, and drinks with him when he knows he could do other stuff.
» Riyuri on March 18th, 2022, 4:11pm
That doesn't mean life is easy when you're intelligent. But that life with IQ 150 should be easier than one with IQ 50.

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