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New Poll - Avatar: The Last Airbender
This week's poll was suggested by Astrowoud. Regardless of whether you've watched it or not, time to form an opinion. There's only 1 right answer to me...
You can submit poll ideas here
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903
Previous Poll Results:
Question: Worst excuse for having a loli/shota as a romantic partner
Choices:
They're actually older than they look - votes: 791 (22.2%)
They're not human (elf, vampire, etc) - votes: 382 (10.7%)
They're an adult that regressed in age - votes: 493 (13.8%)
They actually are that young. Just accept it - votes: 1904 (53.3%)
There were 3570 total votes.
The poll ended: July 2nd, 2022 9:35am PDT
Say hello to the manaketes of Fire Emblem
You can submit poll ideas here
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903
Previous Poll Results:
Question: Worst excuse for having a loli/shota as a romantic partner
Choices:
They're actually older than they look - votes: 791 (22.2%)
They're not human (elf, vampire, etc) - votes: 382 (10.7%)
They're an adult that regressed in age - votes: 493 (13.8%)
They actually are that young. Just accept it - votes: 1904 (53.3%)
There were 3570 total votes.
The poll ended: July 2nd, 2022 9:35am PDT
Say hello to the manaketes of Fire Emblem
Comments (limited to first 100 replies)
» Joese on July 2nd, 2022, 12:22pm
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The Last Airbender was co-created and produced by Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko at Nickelodeon Animation Studios in Burbank, California. Its animation was mostly done by South Korean studios JM Animation, DR Movie, and MOI Animation.
I put anime since it was mainly animated in Asia rather than USA.
Edit .: and the setting / inspiration is closer to manga/anime, than USA comics/cartoons.
I mean, I used to think it had sense differentiating manga as stuff the came only from Japan and certain magazines. But then, there are tones of artists that do the same style and that those same magazines payed they to publish stuff under them, so I think it would be spitting on the faces of those manga/anime artists.
I mean it's totally unfair saying an artist that has been inspired since young by manga or anime, like for example Dreamland is less of a manga artist because of where he published. Just as all those underplayed guys that sometimes don't even make it to the credits ...
» dreamaway on July 2nd, 2022, 7:55pm
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I put anime since it was mainly animated in Asia rather than USA.
With that logic, G.I. Joe, '80s-'90s Spiderman, OG My Little Pony, Transformers would also be an anime.
(Then again, Transformers really did end up becoming an all-Japanese production so that has a case for being called anime)
» flowinmyboat on July 6th, 2022, 3:42pm
Quote from Joese
I put anime since it was mainly animated in Asia rather than USA.
I mean, I used to think it had sense differentiating manga as stuff the came only from Japan and certain magazines. But then, there are tones of artists that do the same style and that those same magazines payed they to publish stu ...
I mean, I used to think it had sense differentiating manga as stuff the came only from Japan and certain magazines. But then, there are tones of artists that do the same style and that those same magazines payed they to publish stu ...
By this logic, a lot of things are anime if being animated in Asia is the only qualifier. Including the Boondocks…(which has even more of an anime-style art than Avatar lol).
My 2c is that anime is made in Japan. There is no shame in just being a cartoon since it’s a predominately Western production despite its inspiration. I am not sure why this is so debated.
» Joese on July 8th, 2022, 4:30pm
Yup, I expressed my point terribly XD.
It's just that if you consider manga/anime as a movement, I find it strange distinguishing between series that were inspired by the same source and use the same techniques/art-style, just because of where it's published.
I think the Boondocks, just as MHA or that weird batman movie, would lie in between. They are clearly classified cartoon/manga but they have many cross references. In other cases the references to both are obvious and constant like big hero 6's San Fransokyo.
As to give another example, many Korean series were inked the same as manga. Or in some cases the series was done in the authors home country, after the author had worked for the industry in Japan.
It's just that if you consider manga/anime as a movement, I find it strange distinguishing between series that were inspired by the same source and use the same techniques/art-style, just because of where it's published.
I think the Boondocks, just as MHA or that weird batman movie, would lie in between. They are clearly classified cartoon/manga but they have many cross references. In other cases the references to both are obvious and constant like big hero 6's San Fransokyo.
As to give another example, many Korean series were inked the same as manga. Or in some cases the series was done in the authors home country, after the author had worked for the industry in Japan.
» residentgrigo on July 2nd, 2022, 12:57pm
2 white Americans created the show for a US Network with a Korean studio. The head writer is also a white American. Only 7 eps of Kora S2 were animated in Japan and Pierrot did a mediocre job because they mostly suck. The show´s main influences are Chinese, outside of that chibi ep that indeed homages anime, and no one in Japan knows what Avatar is. PlatinumGames had to be told what Avatar is when they were hired and that game´s shoddy cutscenes were animated in New York.
A case can be made that Bay made an anime adaptation with Transformers. Shyamalan and now Netflix 100% didn´t. It's an American-Korean Cartoon.
A case can be made that Bay made an anime adaptation with Transformers. Shyamalan and now Netflix 100% didn´t. It's an American-Korean Cartoon.
» Animechic420 on July 2nd, 2022, 1:35pm
Avatar: The Last Airbender is an anime inspired American cartoon. People better get that through their thick skulls.
» YuriM on July 2nd, 2022, 1:55pm
More complicated question: is Robotech anime or cartoon?
» kaloo on July 2nd, 2022, 5:21pm
Anyone who pushes the "Avatar is anime" argument just refuses to accept that Western Animation can be good.
» Afiaki on July 2nd, 2022, 5:42pm
I think with Avatar, many fans are really proud to call it a cartoon.
At the same time, the aesthetic clearly fits in with anime more than it does modern cartoons. As a genre, classifying it as anime is not some kind of horrific injustice, it's a useful differentiator from the rest of the modern cartoon genre.
However, I don't think people are going to be arguing too hard that it is not a cartoon. We don't have to have this conversation with the old Disney movies and 'Disney-like' anime, even though that era of American animation was essentially the origin of the cuteness aesthetic.
At the same time, the aesthetic clearly fits in with anime more than it does modern cartoons. As a genre, classifying it as anime is not some kind of horrific injustice, it's a useful differentiator from the rest of the modern cartoon genre.
However, I don't think people are going to be arguing too hard that it is not a cartoon. We don't have to have this conversation with the old Disney movies and 'Disney-like' anime, even though that era of American animation was essentially the origin of the cuteness aesthetic.
» mallika23 on July 2nd, 2022, 8:44pm
Can't believe there're still people who called it an anime 😂
Anime is Japan's animation. Even though Avatar has the similar "anime-style" animation, it's still produced by Nickelodeon. It's a cartoon, the best I've seen so far. I think I've watched Avatar 2 or 3 times, and would still love to rewatch it again someday.
Anime is Japan's animation. Even though Avatar has the similar "anime-style" animation, it's still produced by Nickelodeon. It's a cartoon, the best I've seen so far. I think I've watched Avatar 2 or 3 times, and would still love to rewatch it again someday.
» Trimutius on July 3rd, 2022, 2:55am
Anime isn't about style it is about being Japanese cartoon
» calstine on July 3rd, 2022, 9:03am
It's a cartoon. There is zero logic behind calling it an anime, because neither its art nor its storytelling style or characters is even remotely anime-esque. If anything, it reminds me of a manhwa/manhua. And wasn't it produced by an American company for an American network?
» hkanz on July 7th, 2022, 8:41pm
Quote from calstine
It's a cartoon. There is zero logic behind calling it an anime, because neither its art nor its storytelling style or characters is even remotely anime-esque. If anything, it reminds me of a manhwa/manhua. And wasn't it produced by an American company for an American network?
Thissss
» Fakasuyuru on July 3rd, 2022, 3:57pm
Anime (アニメ) is just the short version of animation (アニメーション), the term Japanese people use for cartoons. If you open the Japanese Wikipedia page of any American cartoon, the description would say アメリカのアニメーション(America no animation) or アメリカのアニメ (America no anime). Anime and cartoon are the same thing.
On that note, manga, manhwa, and manhua are also the same. For example, Japanese people would just call the other two 韓国の漫画 (Kankoku no manga = Korean comics) and 中国の漫画 (Chuugoku no manga = Chinese comics).
But, I guess we’re talking about the English dictionary version of the terms.
By the way, had manhwa and manhua been added to the official English dictionary too?
On that note, manga, manhwa, and manhua are also the same. For example, Japanese people would just call the other two 韓国の漫画 (Kankoku no manga = Korean comics) and 中国の漫画 (Chuugoku no manga = Chinese comics).
But, I guess we’re talking about the English dictionary version of the terms.
By the way, had manhwa and manhua been added to the official English dictionary too?
» Sinjid on July 3rd, 2022, 6:27pm
Yes.
» toshirodragon on July 6th, 2022, 2:08pm
Who cares? It's a great story.
» Ceiye on July 6th, 2022, 2:54pm
Whether Avatar is anime is an old convo and nothing new can really be said about it. If anyone actually cares about the distinction between anime and cartoons, you're better off examining your opinions on other series. I want to see "Avatar definitely is/is not anime" people try to define what they think of Bakugan or Cybersix
» LucemonFM on July 6th, 2022, 3:54pm
I view it as a RWBY situation. It’s a cartoon but has been inspired by the styles of anime. I think another good example of this is the Teen Titans 2003 cartoon. It’s also very overtly inspired by the styles of anime.
Not that it’s a bad thing either! It’s something we see a lot in Western media nowadays even. An example I wanna go with is actually Dreamworks Bad Guys, as I feel a lot of it makes me feel reminiscent of Lupin III, actually. That’s just my thoughts of it, but it was something I noticed.
Not that it’s a bad thing either! It’s something we see a lot in Western media nowadays even. An example I wanna go with is actually Dreamworks Bad Guys, as I feel a lot of it makes me feel reminiscent of Lupin III, actually. That’s just my thoughts of it, but it was something I noticed.
» ElKaichou on July 9th, 2022, 8:16am
Honestly I feel stuck on this one.
Normally, I'd say it's a cartoon and not an anime because isn't from Japan, but all anime are just cartoons.
However, non-Japanese cartoons do get called anime (especially if they are from China or Korea) if they copy the style and formulas that are associated with anime closely enough. And Avatar does borrow a lot from Japanese anime, but it still feels stylistically Western at parts.
TL;DR: idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Normally, I'd say it's a cartoon and not an anime because isn't from Japan, but all anime are just cartoons.
However, non-Japanese cartoons do get called anime (especially if they are from China or Korea) if they copy the style and formulas that are associated with anime closely enough. And Avatar does borrow a lot from Japanese anime, but it still feels stylistically Western at parts.
TL;DR: idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
