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Post #535337
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1:17 am, Jun 12 2010
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The team over at MangaHelpers has come up with an interesting idea ... Open Manga. Head on over to read about it.

Post #535338

3:25 am, Jun 12 2010
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Yeah, sure why not. Some doujins and Retarded OEL stuff. It's not really... Anything to do with the actual things being put out by the professional authors from Japan.

Post #535339
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3:41 am, Jun 12 2010
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I'm not sure about this, but is it true MangaHelpers is going to remove all scanlation and online viewers because of this?

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3:46 am, Jun 12 2010
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I'll say this is interesting to say the least. To be perfectly honest, before I read this I thought: "We have 2 options, 1. We move the underground Manga Translations even further underground. 2 We confidently and Arrogantly Keep on keepin' on, or 3 Start fighting back with ARMS!" I'm glad this might just end peacefully.

That being said, I thought this should have been the next logical step, because let's be honest, The Internet is pretty unstable in terms of content. The minute you have something online, It'll stay online, and the more Publisher's and Their respective Artist refuse to see that it'll be their downfall. Don't fight it, but join it, is what I say.
The guys at MangaHelpers deserve a big round of applause. *Clap clap clap clap clap*
I approve of this plan!

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Post #535341
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3:57 am, Jun 12 2010
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The main idea that i got from the article is that we can read manga freely but legally (CMIIW)
But the main problem come from the idea itself :
1/ How will the income for the site, mangakas, and others involved in this project gathered?
is it donation, membership, or some new sistems?
But well this first problem maybe already thought carefully by their team, so i don't really disturbed by this one

2/ They have contacted some mangakas and all of them (70 with the data at mangahelpers) are appreciate this idea...
Then, all of us know, there are such tremendous number of mangaka out there. Not only from Japan but also from Korea and China. Can they get approval from most of them? Some mangakas who don't sell really well maybe not really that hard to be invited, because they don;t really have a constant income, so this one can be viewed as something profitable. But for mangakas who sell million copies of tankobon may see this as threat. And some others may have other reasons for saying no. And in the end the fans will still search for a free scanlation that labeled as "illegal" (i really hate to say this).

there are still something that bother me but i guess this two example can at least express my worry about OpenManga. Though i still want to see the realization of this project and see wether it will become a "solution" or a "disaster"

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Post #535342
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4:30 am, Jun 12 2010
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Hmm. Not a bad idea. But it feels like it won't work unless they get some of the more popular manga authors/artists to cooperate. And seeing as though most of those series are licensed in English, I'm not sure how the English publishers would react. But regardless of that, I definitely support this idea as long as they also find a way to properly communicate with the scanlating groups to figure out which translations they intend to use, etc. So, yeah. Not a bad idea at all.

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Post #535343 - Reply to (#535339) by CatzCradle
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4:54 am, Jun 12 2010
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lol not because of this. Because they don't want to be sued.

Post #535344
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5:00 am, Jun 12 2010
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They'd have the backing of a good chunk of the scanlators. I mean really, who doesn't want to support their mangaka when given the chance?

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5:01 am, Jun 12 2010
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hmm i think the mangaka has no rights for the manga? when it got published?

Post #535346 - Reply to (#535345) by boushi16
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5:31 am, Jun 12 2010
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They still retain some rights. And this would be a form of publishing if mangahelpers carries it out the way they describe it.

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5:46 am, Jun 12 2010
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Just asking... Aren't mangakas under some kind of contract with their current publishers? All they said was 70 artists, not mangaka. Or is it that "artists" is a better word to use in this case instead of "mangakas"?

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Post #535348 - Reply to (#535344) by Achiyugo

5:47 am, Jun 12 2010
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Even if the artist approves, publishing houses ultimately have control of the materials - So unless the artist wants to draw exclusive content for OpenManga, we are not likely to get the current manga that we follow.

Japanese publishing houses charge exorbitant amounts of money for licensing - that's why American publishing houses mostly choose series that have wide appeal - Naruto, Bleach, Maid Sama - shoujo/shounen. They also don't touch the risque content like Kodomo no Jikan or KissxSis.

i love this idea but i think a lot more money will need to be involved - in the millions - for OpenManga to operate like CrunchyRoll.

Even then, i doubt they can make all content international - there are local publishing houses that will oppose to these licenses as well. Just like how not all crunchyroll shows are available to Europe, South America and Asia because of Animax and stuff.

Post #535349

5:57 am, Jun 12 2010
Posts: 56

Interesting? no.

You know were the money is on manga? volume sales, license fees and merchandising ... this give nothing, go ask Kubo were he gets the money from ... you can be sure its not from the WSJ sales.

It seems after their plan failed (not "too many walls" but "impossible to work") they come with this one, on one hand its not Tazmo II but in the other hand its pretty damn clear they are really just trying to make a buck.

What part of "Please do not put in huge images!" did you fail to understand?
Post #535350 - Reply to (#535349) by Drakron

6:35 am, Jun 12 2010
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Until it is proven working, I think it's not a good idea.

I don't see the point of publishers (jp) x mangakas (jp) x world wide fans cooperating.
I can only see publishers (jp) x mangakas (jp) x publishers (all except jp) cooperating (license etc stuffs).the whole time.

Beside, I'd rather the mangakas create their story, from the start to the end, genuinely from their own idea; not composed, mixed, and maybe bended by fans' opinion / feedback, even if that's make the story looks better. Because that means it isn't original anymore.

Post #535351 - Reply to (#535338) by kaloo

6:36 am, Jun 12 2010
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Mangahelpers just wants to make money off of manga and scanlations.

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