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i actually heard this from my other asian friends, but i heard that japan rewrites their history everyday.... like for instance i heard about one of the dark histories where they used alot of chinese and korean war prisoners as human lab experiments, where they dissected them, froze them alive, injected viruses and contaminated chemicals on men women and children including pregnant women which was intentionally impregnated by the result of rape from the scientist... they had a rape spree (literally rape) of hundreds of thousand of people (men women and children).... alot of womenin including the age of 12-35 was taken from their schools and resident to be forced to act in sexual acts which was refered as comfort women which japan lies that most of them were prostitutes/whores to begin with which there was an interview during the modern times of couple of the survivors from both china and korea which confirmed the truth that japan was lying recently.... and that they lied the human experiment never existed which couple escapees also survivors also confirmed that fact, which japan quickly demolished the evidence after the war to avoid war crime charges and a bad image...

today they are trying to rewrite history in their textbooks, and also have said america was the one that massacred million people in hiroshima bombing during world war II, which everyone except japan knows it was a responding retaliation from pearl harbor.... and i heard they are trying to take 1 of the lands of korea even today which is called "lioncourt" which they claim it's theirs which is confirmed korea has been dwelling their long before japan which rule says "finders keepers", which is upsetting korean government nowdays.....

now my question IS.... is this true? this is NOT A HATE SPEECH for your information, its just what i read, researched, and first heard by my chinese and korean friends...... so the point of this forum is, is this true? asking to chinese, japanese, and koreansconfused im just interested in history, and i prefer to get the most accurate and precise, and of course the truth in history...

surprising thing is, i asked all the japanese people i know in person about this incidents, but they had no clue about those events that took place, i was actually surprised that all the chinese and koreans knew that but the japanese kids my age didnt ( though they knew about the world war II occupation, but thats about it )

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I couldn't really tell you whether it's true or not. What I can tell you is that many countries do their best to try and invoke a strong sense of nationalism into their people, through any means necessary, and sometimes the truth is bent.

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many countries have done horrible things and try to conceal it
it all depends on which point of view you see it from
i'd say it was true, but many other countries have done similarly awful things

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Japan suffers from post-war syndrome still to this day. You see this same kind of cover-up happening in the US. When the government has done something wrong, they always try to cover it up. Even more so when it's during a war. It is sad that many Japanese don't even know the truth. It's just another example of a government censoring the media for their own gains.

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It's wrong but it happens...i mean the U.S. doesn't mention some facts in their textbooks.....countries mess up xp

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>_>

We could arge all day of who was right and who was wrong... Japan did horrible things to Korean's and Chinese, and also USA over did it a bit with the booms at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

In history, this is a common practice, to delete certain BAD things to keep the name of someone/something clean

Happens to Religion and Country governments, with power, there is always Abuse of power and after said abuse there is always cover ups and lies

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All countries do this... Also could you provide some links/articles to back up "what my asian friends told me"...

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today they are trying to rewrite history in their textbooks, and also have said america was the one that massacred million people in hiroshima bombing during world war II, which everyone except japan knows it was a responding retaliation from pearl harbor....

lol... I stopped reading at this point.


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It usually isn't so much blatantly lying as it is omitting the truth. Japan does it, the US does it, basically every country does it. Japanese textbooks don't really contain information about stuff like the Nanking Massacre because it makes them look bad. Like xombie said, you want your citizens to view you as the "good guys" at all times, it's as simple as that.

And you should think a little bit more carefully about the reason that Japan was bombed in WWII, it's a lot more complex than "retaliation for pearl harbor", and you're very mistaken if you believe that that's the only (or main) reason for it.

The common rule with history is that the winner writes it. There are always going to be things that are omitted, it's not unbiased.

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It's revolting isn't, makes you think, is their something or anything to even "believe" in... roll

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Yeah. I always thought it was kind of funny how in my US History text book, there were literally one sentence on the My Lai Massacre.

And it really was just something like "After that, the My Lai Massacre took place."


The government and it's people will do whatever it takes to believe every choice they made was necessary for their freedom.

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As far as I know the stuff about the experiments on chinese are true....YES TRUE !! The Japanese tried to invent some kind of biological weapon back then and tested it on humans. The "organization" who was in charge of this was called "section"-something----the last time I had history lessons was 6 years ago....
Anyways why is it so hard to aknowledge mistakes? I mean come on! I´m german and we are fully aware of the crimes "germany" commited durin WW2. We visit museums and the places where these crimes where commited. I myself went to Auschwitz in 8? th grade........
Facing peoples mistakes can only lead to a better tomorrow, at least that´s what I believe (and ALL of my teachers told me so far).
To those countries who still try to deny the crimes they did....the world already knows about them and you, you´re making yourself look pathetic^^
And those who still believe in their corrupt government´s "petty pink princess world".....I pity you
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It usually isn't so much blatantly lying as it is omitting the truth. Japan does it, the US does it, basically every country does it. Japanese textbooks don't really contain information about stuff like the Nanking Massacre because it makes them look bad. Like xombie said, you want your citizens to view you as the "good guys" at all times, it's as simple as that.

And you should think a little bit more carefully about the reason that Japan was bombed in WWII, it's a lot more complex than "retaliation for pearl harbor", and you're very mistaken if you believe that that's the only (or main) reason for it.

The common rule with history is that the winner writes it. There are always going to be things that are omitted, it's not unbiased.

I some what agree with you. The winner gets to pick how it's written but I think Japan (and other countries) take it a bit to far with their revisionist History.


I really like how Stephen E. Ambrose explains how Japanese teach WWII.
"The Japanese presentation of the war to its children runs something like this; one day for no reason we ever understood the americans started dropping atomic bombs on us"

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I find it really disgusting to be honest. No one really wants to admit when they have been wrong but you don't just omit it. I understand that countries gloss over things, but to ignore it. D: And to go so far as to say that comfort women wanted to have sex with the Japanese soldiers. (I'm pretty sure the PM apologized later, but is was really half-hearted) Way way over the line.

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Kind of off topic but perhaphs someone on here could help me. A couple years ago I read about a korean martyr, it was a girl (a young teen around 15 I believe.) Anyway I can't remember her name but she was a Christian I *think* remember something about the Korean flag(?) anyway I know it was during the japanese occupation (1910s - 20s I think) anyway I know the soldiers would beat her, inserted a hose into her filled her and would leave her out in the cold naked at night. I think she froze to death. Does anyone know her name? confused

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Countries...you know, personally, as a person it's also hard for me to admit I was wrong, I guess what I'm saying is that for people it's hard to admit they are wrong. But countries? What about countries...?

Oh snap! Just had a thought, one time I was wandering on Wiki and I found a page detailing how several black men who had aids were not given treatment simply for the fact that a group of scientist (doctors I guess) wanted to see how the disease would prolong... none

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Actually, the Japanese originally included the Unit 731 (the unit that conducted experiments on the Chinese during the war), and other related units in their textbooks, but in the past 2 decades or so, all mention of this has been eradicated from them.

Also, here's a blurb from wikipedia:

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After Imperial Japan surrendered to the Allies in 1945, Douglas MacArthur became the Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers, rebuilding Japan during the Allied occupation. MacArthur secretly granted immunity to the physicians of Unit 731 in exchange for providing America with their research on biological warfare. The United States believed that the research data was valuable because the allies had never publicly conducted or condoned such experiments on humans due to moral and political revulsion. The United States also did not want other nations, particularly the Soviet Union, to acquire data on biological weapons, not to mention the military benefits of such research.


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Countries...you know, personally, as a person it's also hard for me to admit I was wrong, I guess what I'm saying is that for people it's hard to admit they are wrong. But countries? What about countries...?

Oh snap! Just had a thought, one time I was wandering on Wiki and I found a page detailing how several black men who had aids were not given treatment simply for the fact that a group of scientist (doctors I guess) wanted to see how the disease would prolong... none


You're talking about the Tuskegee Syphilis Study http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Untreated_Syph ilis_in_the_Negro_Male
It was syphilis not aids. It was really sad. They didn't even tell the men that they were participaitng in a study. And the most amazing was that it continued into the 70s after we had condemned Germany for running medical trials on people. I mean it was after the Nuremberg code was developed, it sickens me.

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