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Post #343329 - Reply to (#343289) by John21
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1:25 am, Dec 20 2009
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ahaha all of u guyzz posts r crakup as ppl, it seems most ppl are starting to get disappointed with Naruto lol


That ship is long gone...

I curse the fact that once I begin to read something, I have to finish it.

believe me the only reason I spend 48 seconds reading this crap, is just to see the precious "THE END" in the last page.

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Post #343346 - Reply to (#343329) by Chaoswind
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I curse the fact that once I begin to read something, I have to finish it.

is that even possible?? You can stop reading it if you really like to stop.Since there is no point for you reading this manga then why read it if you know in yourself that you are just wasting your time. For me thats just stupid reasoning so that you have a reason to read the manga you supposedly "hate" so much
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Post #343349 - Reply to (#343346) by bochi07
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I curse the fact that once I begin to read something, I have to finish it.

is that even possible?? You can stop reading it if you really like to stop.Since there is no point for you reading this manga then why read it if you know in yourself that you are just wasting your time. For me thats just stupid reasoning so that you have a reason to read the manga you supposedly "hate" so much
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I think what he means is once he starts something, he wants to see it through right till the end, regardless.
I mean, most of us have been following Naruto for years. If anything, it's more of a waste if we drop it because all those years of reading a new chapter every week will be for nothing. We want to see how this manga will end, regardless of the crap that seems to often emerge.

That's why I wont drop it. I have to see the ending and it's build up.

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i wish, Sasuke will deveating Danzo, or his eyes gonna be taking by Danzo!!!
Naruto gonna be health soon right?? i cant imagine if i see him die before reasch the Hokage chair no

Post #343439 - Reply to (#343404) by zenlovers
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i wish, Sasuke will deveating Danzo, or his eyes gonna be taking by Danzo!!!
Naruto gonna be health soon right?? i cant imagine if i see him die before reasch the Hokage chair no


woa such pure people still exist! *rofls*

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Seems like the beginning of a good fight to me...

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Post #343591 - Reply to (#343563) by Charibdis
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Seems like the beginning of a good fight to me...



good fight? lol its gonna a boring illusion fight tht will fake some1 dying probably like 5 or 6 times and than some1 (sasuke) running away or gettin resecued lol....not a good fight at all...jmo

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Okay, everybody. Can we please stop being so negative in every Naruto thread, it makes me sick. What happened to the good old days when people actually discussed things every chapter instead of whining about this or that, if you have nothing worth saying than stay the hell out. "Constructive" criticism won't hurt anyone. "Intelligent" conversation won't hurt much either. Just please, please stop b#$%^&@g...please.

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Your problem isn't that they are negative... it's that they are blatantly belittling it without any substance.

Personally, I like when someone can bash the series yet deliver it in a veil of constructive criticism... like someone who has a marvelous smile while they stab something to death... or just watch as someone else dirties their hands.
It resonates with my soul and makes me happy.

Now, I can't really do this myself... sad, I know... but let's see what I can do.

The art has been lacking and amazing at the same time. The way Kishimoto has been drawing the actual characters has become fudged looking, especially Sasuke. In addition, the replicated drawings have increased in frequency. It's come to the point where it looks like he's just created templates and is now just picking and choosing amongst them to create his next chapter with maybe a few extra things here and there to still look like it's a new chapter. As for how the drawings are improving, the detail in the backgrounds are marvelous aren't they? However, using great detail in the art to divert the attention of the reader from the slow story line progression is about as effective as putting make-up on a two dollar whore. Now, either Kishimoto is using the detail to give him a bit of a cushion to develop the story or to fill out the chapter, which I also believe is why he's using so many panels on flash backs (seriously, we know what's going on... it doesn't take four pages to explain that Naruto is having an inner conflict). Whatever the reason, the detail is over powering the series and adversely affecting his characters ability to give convey genuine feelings. Yes, they feel... I can see them cry, faint, and have angry eyes... but these feelings have become those from a daytime soap opera. I just don't believe them. If he has so much time to draw those awesome backgrounds, why can't he spend some of it on drawing the characters to look like they are real with real emotions and not someone that's over acting.


Also, I've been holding this back for a while, but...

"Wait, he put WHAT in WHERE!!! EEEWWWWWW"

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Post #343653 - Reply to (#343594) by mirahsan2
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Okay, everybody. Can we please stop being so negative in every Naruto thread, it makes me sick.


Honestly sorry for you but noone forces you to read Naruto's last chapter threads.

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Ask the mangaka, we're also wondering.

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"Constructive" criticism won't hurt anyone. "Intelligent" conversation won't hurt much either. Just please, please stop b#$%^&@g...please.


Yeah sure. But constructive criticism starts from finding the good (even if few) points in something and try to make them better. In Naruto nowadays there are NO good points. Its just a homoemoninjanovela.

And i dont see any constructive criticism on your side too, just whining (the thing that made you sick)

Just my 2 cents, totally unbiased and without flaming purpouse.

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Quit it

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Sorry, gotcha. Good points on your side though grand.

Post #343711 - Reply to (#343704) by mirahsan2
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Sorry, gotcha. Good points on your side though grand.


dont worry, i didnt want to bash you, really.
But honestly, if there are a LOT of people (not just 2-3 naru-haters) complaining and only complaining (STILL they are posting here) you can see 2 things:

1-Naruto is really going down the drain
2-People that read Naruto are disappointed because they'd WANT IT TO BE BETTER THAN THIS. So I dont think there are haters/complainers here, but people that would really like to see a better manga, given its really good start. And if 99% people who post in naruto threads are disappointed and cant see a thing that's good in it, I dont think they do it just for sports. In a sense, they are truly SAD.

I'd also like it to be better (in every aspect) and seeing as the mangaka is ruining/twisting the plot and the characters makes me angry and sad, thus the bitter words towards this work that SHOULD have been developed better (or finished really ages ago?)

So in the end, where you see hatred, in reality there is a basic sadness U.U

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Post #343804 - Reply to (#343349) by tactics
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I curse the fact that once I begin to read something, I have to finish it.

is that even possible?? You can stop reading it if you really like to stop.Since there is no point for you reading this manga then why read it if you know in yourself that you are just wasting your time. For me thats just stupid reasoning so that you have a reason to read the manga you supposedly "hate" so much
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I think what he means is once he starts something, he wants to see it through right till the end, regardless.
I mean, most of us have been following Naruto for years. If anything, it's more of a waste if we drop it because all those years of reading a new chapter every week will be for nothing. We want to see how this manga will end, regardless of the crap that seems to often emerge.

That's why I wont drop it. I have to see the ending and it's build up.


"If there's a will there's a way", i really don't see a point in reading naruto while saying it's crap...so yea...i second lambchopsil's advice....just quit it rather than being proud for reading a manga that you call crap laugh

btw,
I was convinced that danzou really died there eek. But yea, i forgot, he has a sharingan-infested arm. I cant believe Sasuke is surprised that it was a genjutsu knowing what sharingans are capable of.


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Did you not read what I wrote? Your argument doesn't counter what I'm saying. I'm not talking about being proud of reading Naruto... none
I've already explained the reason why I'm still reading it regardless of the bad patches. To see the ending. As is any reason for reading any manga or reading anything in fact...
The years I've spent following it will not be wasted because it's failing at the moment. I liked it at some point over the years. That's why I'm still following it. If I however thought it was crap from the very beginning, then that's when I'd drop it. If people are still reading this thinking the whole series is crap, then I have to wonder why they're still reading it as well...


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