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Madman
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2:18 am, Dec 1 2007
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I also noticed something....
Inoue, Ichigo, and Sado. none of them have living mothers...
Inoue and Sado don't have parents at all...
I'm thinking that this might be some sort of link, because they all have some sort of hollow power.
Inoue's power is similar to Hacchi's (The guy from Vaizards who sets up all the barriers)
and doesn't he have kidou-like hollow powers? So, is Inoue's power... hollow power?

Did Ichigo's power pour out and endow them... or is it the power of their dead family ,once dormant now awakened by Ichigo's influence?
(You know, how Chad realized his power was that of a hollow, from his dead grandfather's spirit while in Hueco Mundo) Does the family aspect have a strong influence on all the characters?

I think so....

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Post #99411 - Reply to (#99374) by Calíbre
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I also noticed something....
Inoue, Ichigo, and Sado. none of them have living mothers...
Inoue and Sado don't have parents at all...
I'm thinking that this might be some sort of link, because they all have some sort of hollow power.

And what about Ishida? I recall only his father, no mentions of his mother, I think confused

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Post #99419 - Reply to (#99411) by Layhe
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I also noticed something....
Inoue, Ichigo, and Sado. none of them have living mothers...
Inoue and Sado don't have parents at all...
I'm thinking that this might be some sort of link, because they all have some sort of hollow power.

And what about Ishida? I recall only his father, no mentions of his mother, I think confused

The only time they've mentioned Ishida's mother was in a filler episode, and it lasted for 10 seconds or something.. laugh

It was when Ishida associated that Bounto lady with his mother.. He thought that she gave a similar vibe..

Natural conclusion would be that she died.. Maybe that's the reason why Ryuken is so cold-hearted nowadays..

He detest using his Quincy powers, because they have failed him.. He couldn't protect his wife.. And if he wasn't a Quincy, she may have not died at all..

He hates Shinigamis, because they didn't/couldn't protect his wife..

Only a theory though.. laugh

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Post #99497 - Reply to (#99419) by Dr. Love
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Quote from Layhe
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I also noticed something....
Inoue, Ichigo, and Sado. none of them have living mothers...
Inoue and Sado don't have parents at all...
I'm thinking that this might be some sort of link, because they all have some sort of hollow power.

And what about Ishida? I recall only his father, no mentions of his mother, I think confused

The only time they've mentioned Ishida's mother was in a filler episode, and it lasted for 10 seconds or something.. laugh

It was when Ishida associated that Bounto lady with his mother.. He thought that she gave a similar vibe..

Natural conclusion would be that she died.. Maybe that's the reason why Ryuken is so cold-hearted nowadays..

He detest using his Quincy powers, because they have failed him.. He couldn't protect his wife.. And if he wasn't a Quincy, she may have not died at all..

He hates Shinigamis, because they didn't/couldn't protect his wife..

Only a theory though.. laugh


Well, whether or not Ishida's mother is dead, I still have yet to see any glimpse of anything close to hollow power, which is why i didn't include him...

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But Inoue's powers aren't hollow nor shinigami, they transcend it.. I think it's more Vaizard Powers..

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I have a thought but more like a theory about Urahara Kisuke having connection to the other vizard for many reasons that just suddenly pop up in my head when I was reading the manga from the beginning because I only started reading the manga when I got fed up with anime, untill reading chapter 175 when Aizens plans was revealed on the hill when he is still in soul society, and the connection of Inoue and Chad's powers to Ichigo and hollows and/or Vizard.
(Also note that this is based on scanlated version so if theres anything wrong dont hesitate to point it out it.)
Just to be safe of spoilers
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First was the Hougyoku being able to destroy the barrier of shinigami and hollows.
He must have met the vizards in when they were shinigamis or they are his subordinates when he was still a captain, or they were shinigami and something happend to them and Urahara help them, or they dont want to be shinigamis anymore, or better yet they are the modified souls that he created that was supposed to be destroyed, Kon is an exception because he got away. Hence knowledge of the Hougyoku.

The points that connect them to him are:
1. There are no other way of destroying the barrier other than the Hougyoku as Aizen said so himself. Thus hollowification is impossible without Hougyoku.
2.There basement looks exactly as Urahara's and he is the only one who can do that because he made it look like the one from soul society.
3. Shinji's knowledge of the Hougyoku.

Also note that Aizen said that Hyougyoku was hidden on Rukias body for a long time. Rukia must have know Urahara long before the series started because Urahara has a shop for shinigami in need in the real world. And this can be proven
when she sees Jinta and said "Your the same as ever shortie". Urahara must've hidden the Hyougyoku without her knowing, maybe from one of those chappy(or rabbit)themed food or cookie things that Rukia cant say no to, or better yet a qiuck heal pill with a chappy image.

And comes the hollowification of Ichigo. The first time Ichigo became shinigami, Rukia gave her powers to Ichigo then maybe giving off powers of Hyougyoku and activating it and destroying the barrier making Ichigo have the ability of being hollowified. Thus also make sense to him having connections to Inoue and Chad's powers, because he have some of the Hyougyoku powers and blended with his raitsu and its spilling out uncontrollably. In Inoues case, her brother must have part of his soul left in the hairpins and because she have deep connections with Ichigo or her purpose got something to do with Ichigo and an encounter with a hollow must have created her powers. In Chad's case, their are like brothers in arms and he made a promise to protect Ichigo(or not) and his purpose for fighting has connections with Ichigo or his motivation has got something to do with him.

And also about Ururu and the others might modified souls if not all must be just Ururu.

I think Urahara has connection to most of the major happenings in Bleach excluding the anime fillers because: he never appeared in shock, always prepared,
his the first to explain things to the others, and also the ability to make portals to other dimensions and knowing whats in there and warning the others about their travels there like he already been there.
And he always comes to the rescue.

I think this almost answers to most of the questions in here. But their just theories
so that might change. Thats just part of the things I thought so far after reading chapter 175 adding the anime part thats, why I reading the manga from the start because some parts must've been omitted or not clear when I watched the anime version because of many reasons.

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some of those q.s are already answered. (up top ^ 1st comment.)

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