I implore you and everyone else to check out these videos I'm about to link. No, they shouldn't be the only source to base your opinion on, but I want to make it clear the media IS attempting to smear them. They keep saying "we don't know what they want" but that's all part of the lie. They know that majority of protesters are tired of, for example, companies and banks buying the politicians. They're tired of politicians no longer representing the people, but representing the corporations and banks as if they were people because they get paid for it.

To put it simply, many people of America are idiots. They take the news of today that shows on TV as fact only because they are on TV. I even had to explain to my dad Herman Cain is not a good candidate at all, no matter how praised he is occasionally on the news. People eat up the stuff the news says, never looking deeper into the subject past what the news said. I just wish people would get their information from more than one source....


The Reason explained for OWS &The media smearing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUW24mUNp78
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCiAG7LF7Q4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEPgAp5Mkyc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb5ZJIjlfuY



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Why, hello there!!!

If you are living in a park near Wall Street because you have no job, you lost half your savings because of Wall Street and you are up to your eyeballs in debt, I'm pretty sure the message is self explanatory. But for those of you who only take their news from Rupert Murdoch and friends, I'll spell it out for you.

The purpose: to force a spotlight on debt, poverty and unemployment in the middle of Wall Street.

While large corporations and banks got bailouts, subsidies and various legislation screwing the average voter, Occupy Wall Street protesters saw their savings evaporate, their homes foreclosed, their jobs outsourced right out of the country and etc.

The Solution:Don't tax us. Don't take away our social programs. Tax the rich. Take away they're subsidies and tax loopholes. Regulate it so that the financial meltdown cannot happen again. While you are at it, give us a bail out instead of the banks. Rent ain't cheap and we still have years of debt from credit cards and student loans.

The ResultTough to say. I imagine that if the people in New York were to disband, the media will forget about the group and the movement will quickly peter out into disparate groups. For that to happen, either the economy will have to get better, someone must die and/or a riot will have to erupt.

Another option is for them to simply be co-opted by the Democrats the way Tea Baggers were turned into Neo Con puppets. Somehow I doubt politicians will flock to the OWS though. Corporate money is too sweet compared to the loose change they can get from supporting OWS.

edit:Then again, all they have to do is re-brand the damned movement into something palatable like "Bail Out Main Street," toss the crowd a pittance and, after they get their butts elected, hope the economy gets better.

Last edited by drunkguy at 9:20 pm, Oct 28 2011

im reading this...and a little research can show you what the message is...as i've said before the hundreds of people that were signed up for the occupy (months before the actual protests) made a list of what they were occupying for, and a few weeks before occupy they used the interwebs to post signs explaining why they were the 99%. Of course now it has grown to the point where people are there not knowing what the original cause was for and are just there for ulterior motives. (anywhere from partying and just to protest, or to protest for their own causes they believe in)

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i can sympathise with the protestors, thats all i can do.
i think they need to understand that their protests wont bring about a change(atleast,not in the next few years) so i look at it as a mere wake-up call
they also need to understand how deep corporate greed, inequality and influence go.

I also sympathize, but only since I'm too caught up in school to actually participate. There's no reason to say a protest like this will fail simply for the fact that it's a protest against a long standing inequality. If that was the case, we'd still have slavery and women would still be unable to vote.

There's absolutely no reason we can't have another change of that magnitude, though it seems like a lot of people feel it's impossible.

It seems impossible because they seem very disorganized, and there does not seem to be a clear leader in all this. What they stand for is admirable but they cant get anywhere unless they get more organized. Look at the civil rights movements, that didnt take pace until a focal leader came onto the spot (MLK), same with labor reforms in the 1800s, that didnt become more prominent until Union leagues were created that made these strikes and movements more organized to the point where States began to pass pro labor laws and were eventually recognized by the Federal Government.

Changes of that magnitude you speak of takes time (decades actually). And if this is anything like history then we got a long way to go.

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i also sympathize with them, but just sitting there doing nuisance to the public will not achieve anything. it's pointless. it's just..... nuisance to the public. for those wallstreetian, it's just a mosquito bite

it's better for those people to make an organisation/ party and disperse all over the land to spread the word. or if all fails, go for communist or socialist. the UK labour party (after WW2) are good example of what you can achieve if you work the right way. it's hard but it's better than working (or occupying ) without being paid

My opinion matches others. They aren't accomplishing much just sitting there. I'm suprised its gotten as much attention as it has but it is a lot of people. I'm in Philly and I passed their encampment. Its amazing that this happend to quickly and out of nowhere but there's a risk of it dissolving just as quickly unless they make an effort to be more than just a spontaneous vague protest.

While I'm sure everything would be quite easier for everyone involved if they did have clear leaders, it's not really a requirement. I've been reading about protests in Latin America lately, and they've managed these sorts of things before just fine. I'm not trying to say conditions are the same here as they are there, or even that it's the best method. Just that it does happen.

And yes, these things can take time. And for the most part, they happen in little steps. My response was worded that way because sarah-eats-cupcakes sounded a little pessimistic. I myself tend to be a realist, and as such I don't think change will come easy. But I'm also confident that people won't stop until change occurs. All I was trying to say is that it can happen.

I can understand their frustration but really, they're not getting anything accomplished.

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