When men and women are considered the same, I'm gonna beat the shit out of women as much as I beat the shit out of men.

If they say they're girls, I'll say we're equals.

That's just called abuse. And is at the very height of impropriety, regardless of the party at hand.

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Have you ever read about women's rights, and how hard women had to fight in order to be accepted as true members of society? Saying we have always had equal rights and treatment is a downright lie.

However, I don't like 'modern' feminism. Women who think that women are better than men are just committing the same crimes they fought to prevent.

I believe in equalism:
Men women, and everyone in between should be treated the same regardless of gender.
Of course, that is something that doesn't quite exist yet...
But I think that eventually it is entirely possible.

Most people in this thread are either fucking idiots or men who needs to shut the fuck up and check their privilige. Every single case of "discrimination" against men is a direct consequences of opressing women. If you punch someone in the face, you're hands gonna hurt. Deal with it.

I will quote;

"Pointing out that men are privileged in no way denies that bad things happen to men. Being privileged does not mean men are given everything in life for free; being privileged does not mean that men do not work hard, do not suffer. In many cases – from a boy being bullied in school, to a soldier dying in war – the sexist society that maintains male privilege also does great harm to boys and men.

In the end, however, it is men and not women who make the most money; men and not women who dominate the government and the corporate boards; men and not women who dominate virtually all of the most powerful positions of society. And it is women and not men who suffer the most from intimate violence and rape; who are the most likely to be poor; who are, on the whole, given the short end of patriarchy’s stick."

Yes, you quoted sexist lines. That was most likely sexist...
However you managed to aim your attack at alot of people who replied to this thread.

I'm tired of being ludacris, so i will agree with you here. Damnit, Men don't deserve the same rights, think of history to be honest. If you think about it, women have been miss treated through out the ages, so they definatly deserve compensation of some sort. So if any men get discriminated against now, just remember history...

Also i would like for you to reutter that using the "black american" as women and men as "white american".



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Wow, we have a slight case of feminism on our hands don’t we Um.. Yeah, down with men who have a voice.

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Say's it all really doesn't it?

Equality has improved over the years indeed. We're not on equal terms yet though. Don't think that will ever happen. There are some fields where the men dominate, some were the female dominate. It will never be 50-50. That's asking for perfection - something that this human existence can never achieve.

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nice how you generalize all men, there are good men out there, why should good guys suffer because of the guys who are jerks? not all women are perfect and good, there are a lot of women that beat kids, rape innocent boys, that have killed. dont men, in your view deserve "compensation" too. there is good and bad in every gender, every race, every nationality. and until things become more equal and the laws become more fair, this battle between people will continue endlessly. its really sad, but this is the real world, there will always be unfair treatment, racism, and people who want to continue to drag out the mistakes of people from the past to excuse bad behavior.

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er... you do realise, I used a slight mild case of sarcasm. I did that on purpose, to make the other user think...I hate spelling it out all the time.

Black americans do not have more rights than a white americans because of history... it's equal.
No one sucks it up. Like was said. Thats why i added that bit at the end.

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well , that "patriarchal society" wasn't it maintained by women ?
why those women didn't oppose it ?
wasn't kids (both future men and women) raised (mostly) by women ?
women themselves where (and maybe still be) part of the problem

well the thread is almost dead and old but to corroborate my latest statement
i found a article that is unforgivable to pass on without being mentioned
the evil that women do

There are many valid and logical reasons why women *should* be treated better than men in a stable, lawful, functioning society. One obvious reason is that women are worth more than men. It's been like that throughout history.

Village A with 100 males and 100 females sends male soldiers against another village B of equal numbers that sends female soldiers. They both suffer 95 deaths.

Village A has 5 males and 100 females remaining. They can rebuilds society in a matter of two generations.
Village B has 5 females and 100 males remaining. They are fucked.

In society, you really only need the genes of a few alphas to carry on. I give humans more credit than that, so obviously, it doesn't have to go like that in a society that is already stable, but in times of turmoil, you can bet your ass that most people would be aware that women are more important than men (with the possible exception of a male leader or two who somehow manages to threaten or charm his way into importance).

The majority of men are treated like shit, while a few top alpha men (kings and whatnot) get all the glory, while the collective shame is distributed to all men. A few alpha men will behave bestially, screw around with a ton of women (who will no doubt love them for one reason or another), be abusive, treat others like shit, and will single-handedly earn the label "pigs" for the entire male sex. Their sins become our cross to bear, because certain women can't distinguish an idiotic minority subset from the rest of the entire sex.

That being said, Feminists really do annoy me even though I can respect equal rights and all that. It has more to do with the fact that I saw way too many of them living in the ultraliberal part of the US. Very stupid ones who shriek emotion and refuse to speak rationally.

Oversaturation, you know? One can even get sick from drinking to much water.

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Man... It doesn't "say it all". It's a deliberate or willfully ignorant misrepresentation of what data we have.

There are various explanations for the commonly touted inane assessment that "women make 77 cents on the dollar".

See what Carrie Lukas, executive director of the Independent Women's Forum, had to say on this matter:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704415104576250 672504707048.html


77%? Where's that 77% now?

Large corporations are greedy, not as retarded as a lot of people may think. The best, most successful businesses aren't going to screw themselves out of profits just to be petty and give better salary/positions to someone just because he's a man. They will value performance. E.g. "Oh, the rest of you are being sexist? Well we'll take advantage of that and make an easy buck by choosing NOT to be sexist!"
http://www.economist.com/node/17311877

This happens *much* more quickly in the US than in East Asia (focus of the article).

So what could possibly account for that statistic of 77 cents on the dollar? Here are just a few of various factors:

- Women are more likely than men to move to accommodate for girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse. This hurts careers.
- Maternity leave.
- Consequence of maternity leave: Many women make a conscious, calculated decision to stay away from fast-paced occupations because they want children, and understand that a few months away from work is often enough to render a person obsolete, especially in high tech sector.
- Women are more likely to choose to be a stay-at-home parent.
- You need to stratify the men and women (by education, occupation, location, age/experience, performance, etc) before comparing... which the "77 cents to the dollar" oft-cited by feminists does not do.


As I mentioned before responding to you, those relatively few men give the entire gender a bad name. Is it really our cross to bear? While men are definitely more violent than women, men are also more likely to be the victims. In fact, while women are more likely than males to be victims of rape or sexual assault, males are more likely to fall victim to violent crime, in general. (U.S. Department of Justice, National Crime Victimization Survey — September 2006). Men are FOUR times as likely to be murdered as women. (U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Homicide Trends in the U.S. – Trends by Gender — July 2006). But yeah, I like how you added the "intimate" modifier so you could avoid this fact.

As far as being given the short end of the patriarchy's stick... the majority of men suffer just as much from that supposed patriarchy if not more throughout history. Oh nice, nice, one male leader. I suppose that makes the rest of men feel so much better about themselves. I'm sure they really enjoyed lording that over women, even after they were castrated eunuchs forced into a lifetime of servitude to those male elite we all love to hate on. Meanwhile, that male leader might have 5 wives, living in relative luxury. Not so much luxury as the male king himself, but certainly better than the miserable, forever-alone grunts being sent to die in the battlefield.

Again, I don't mind women's rights, but this manhating fad is tiring.

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Que sera, sera.

I don't like the double standard, but I can't change it either.
No need for me to lose sleep over it.

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