Pretty much the point of every group that is hindered by youni's halfassed translation for making money faster. With him only option 3 exist(not reading the series at all , so always having poor translations , because the meaning if distorted , from what the author wanted to say and how to translate it in english ; poor editing skills if any are present at all ; no proofreading to the bad translation ; whats more his claims of quality checking staff are just funnier than how much his work sucks)



obviously as always you have no idea what you are talking about , scanlating itself is neither theft or illegal, authors pretty much have no rights over their series and so on...
re-distributing it on sites like yours is the major point of conflict , its the same reason why tbnw's author was angry for scanlations , because he saw his work at mangafox getting money to someone unrelated(kinda what you do)

but even if we put that aside , its funny how the ones that usually go by stealing for profit can only bring this one argument you brought to our attention (legality of the scanlation as whole) , which pretty much says that you are okay with stealing as long as only you profit and not the ones that put the long hours of work behind



although i dont like what vendetta did , as long as its one time thingy its not bad , many groups have done such mistakes based on lack of communication or falsely spread rumors , so judging them for 1 release is not okay , but if they repeat then its another issue

I don't do speed groups, as I don't read stuff that gets scanlated very frequently.
I just check my lists and see that there's some chapters out there for a manga
I could read right now.
Always quality for me, but I will resort to awful stuff if there's nothing else coming.
The artist's work goes to waste with really shitty releases.
I also watch 1080p BD animu.

It seems that MangaPirate agreed that they will leave the project previously done by Vendetta and in return Vendetta agreed to leave Killer Stall.

I am surprised by the comments on MP sites,where readers are saying that MP is doing it for free and the MP admin youni89 is agreeing to it. Free? Yes,but they are earning a high amount of money from ads. Their reader is full of ads and not to mention that they are not using one strip reader,which in turn help them to earn more.(Its obvious that many individual pages with ads earn more money than a single strip reader with ads.).They dont provide download link (nice way to make readers to read on site),though I would never download their scans in first place seeing their quality of translations and editing.
Even a child would understand their reasons for translating webtoons...
I am surprised that Manga Updates staff is allowing an hosting site to advertise it here. Its just like promoting ManfaFox or MangaReader. If this continues,I am sure MangaUpdates staff will allow MangaPanda to promote itself here by adding the big three release. I thought promoting an hosting site was not allowed regardless whether they release scans or not.
MP should only be allowed,if they are hosting their own releases and nothing else. I remembered mangafox also hosted gamble fish (done by some fans),then that means they will also be added as a group?
MP is no different from MangaFox as it also hosts manga which are in no way done by them.From what I have seen,they are hosting many popular titles like the big three,fairy tail,etc.
MU staff should remove MP from database unless they agree to host only their releases or they give a new link in which only their releases are hosted. If not,then you have to allow MangaPanda and other aggregaitor sites.

I don't think that is reason enough to ban them , but i do believe stealing scans from other groups and claiming they did it is one for such action to be taken.

I'm not surprised with what their fans are saying , at first when they had taken only 3 projects most of the comments there were made by the same person using 4 different accounts.

This is what I just found on 4chan

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lmao
It even made me create account after so long time lurking here.

Awesome!! Cant stop laughing..... There are people on MP site who dont know that they earn money.
They think that MP is doing for free..... God please show them reality.
Folks you should tell everyone about the reality of MP as many dont know..... They think that MP is doing them favour and that MP is not getting any money.

Donate? Why? Webcomics are free....they are not scanlating any manga/manhwa which require raws.
Server? Tons of money is earned from that shitty manga viewer with full of ads( Even MangaFox will be surprised.)
So folks dont assume that MP is doing it for you......Their sole purpose is to earn money and nothing else.

lol that was so funny

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They didnt even properly edited the privacy policy which they copied from Manga Fox.

You're right that scanlating isn't theft, but it IS illegal. The works are protected by copyright which affords the owner of the copyright to have exclusive control over who can produce/reproduce, adapt, financially benefit from etc, the work in question.

The thing about mangapirate is that instead of picking up manga/webcomics that were in need of being scanslated/translated and had not had new releases in more than a hundred days, they picked up the popular series like Noblesse which already had a scanslation group working on it releasing the new chapters within two days of the release date on the Korean website. Tower of God, The God of Highschool, TAL, Lessa, Soul Cartel, and as mentioned before, Noblesse, all had, and have got, scanslation groups working on them. For manga pirate to use the excuse that they are "unsatisfied with the release frequency" for a webcomic that has new releases every two days (Soul Cartel for just one example), or within two days of the newest release, is not a valid reason to steal a group's project.
Further to this, they have not really picked up those webcomics that are in need of a scanslation group. They are beginning to now (The Devil King is Bored) but they are still not touching the vast majority of webcomics that, personally, I would like to see faster releases for. Nevertheless, I'm disinclined to read mangapirate's releases precisely because they've stolen projects from groups that, while taking a while to produce a release, are doing their best. To cap it all off, they have not taken on any manga or actual comics that would need scanning, or translating from scanned raws. I assume this is because they don't want to waste their time with the extra cleaning and editing scanned raws would need before being release-able. I find this kind of selective stealing worse.

In answer to quality vs. speed. If it was a manga that hadn't been updated in a while and it was a relatively singular case (ie. the group wasn't stealing left, right and centre) then I would probably read it. As I read directly from EGScans and The Company, however, I am disinclined to read mangapirate's "releases" when I know I can get a higher quality release and be loyal to the scanslation group if I wait just a day more (24 hours? I don't think that's a big price to pay to show support from a group which has diligently been scanslating a series for more than a year/two years). I only hope that these high quality scanslation groups don't stop translating/scanslating the series which mangapirate have stolen.

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I like their new site..... Its pretty nice and more user friendly than it was before.
I checked their scans of other groups and they have given them credits.....so I dont think people should accuse them for not giving credits.
@tragedyking-
Its far different from mangafox and other sites........ They are giving credits,scanning their own releases.
Where in mangafox case they just steal and they themselves dont do anything.

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And now Easy Going Scans can't use the tattle-telling (they stole our reader style and payed to rip our reader) claims anymore. They'll have to stick to their "They stole our project" claims now...

MangaPirate's reader seems to be a bit more sophisticated than EGscans.
Plus, MangaPirate did say that they'll add the webtoon format when they get more established.

I think my only problem with these online-reader scanlation groups is they don't provide download links. So maybe EGscans are more considerate to fans when it comes to providing different resources to their releases.

http://mangapirate.net/Kubera/94/1

giving credit my ass , this is clearly TC's chapter , their pages there are clear who is the ass in the situation , dont try to justify what they do , its only for the money in their case.


Also regarding their "new" site its obvious copying of http://www.thcmpny.com/ this , they clearly said it so that their blog will be the same as tc's a long time ago , true its a tad different to not be as blatant as when they stole eg's reader , but its clear where they got the idea from.

The Comppany and MP sites are different as far as I can see.
If you are talking about the upper menu,well its used in MANY websites....And by many I mean really many. Its one of the basic layout for sites.
If you go like this,then many sites will have similar layout then would you say that they are also copied of each other?

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True that , its not that unfamiliar , but i'm here saying that they didnt even think of having blog until he saw the one tc had and chose to use it as his own.