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Post #226157 - Reply to (#226152) by IMustBeInsane
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The only way I'll accept a 'But it's a LIFE!' argument from you is if you are a vegan.


Agree smile , Anyway so what if its a life, we are all going to die anyway


I would just like to say that I find putting humans (or something with the potential to become human if you don't think life starts in the womb) on the same level as milk and eggs offensive. Sorry. I'm more important than Bessie the cow and the stranger in the room across the hall from me is more important than my own cat. To me, saving the newly concieved child in a mothers stomache is more important than "saving the animals."


seriously? i would totaly sacrifice you for my cat to live...Back to topic: and why do you feel that a cow is worth less than a human fetus that might not have survived anyway? confused

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Post #226158 - Reply to (#226157) by Akillaz
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The only way I'll accept a 'But it's a LIFE!' argument from you is if you are a vegan.


Agree smile , Anyway so what if its a life, we are all going to die anyway


I would just like to say that I find putting humans (or something with the potential to become human if you don't think life starts in the womb) on the same level as milk and eggs offensive. Sorry. I'm more important than Bessie the cow and the stranger in the room across the hall from me is more important than my own cat. To me, saving the newly concieved child in a mothers stomache is more important than "saving the animals."


seriously? i would totaly sacrifice you for my cat to live...Back to topic: and why do you feel that a cow is worth less than a human fetus that might not have survived anyway? confused


are you actually serious?

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I am going to temporarily lock this thread based on two reports of post based on their content as opposed to rule breaking.

To be honest, with the political and religious implications of this topic, I don't know why it was allowed in the first place.

It will be locked pending review.

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Re-opened.

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Re-opened.

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Maybe you should move this to the Adult section.

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Good idea.

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it should definelty be up to the mother? who are YOU to say that a mother cant abort her own child? in the first place your not her and secondly you dont have to deal with having a kid. so basically its easy to say your killing a life and it shouldnt be allowed BUT what if you were unhappily pregnant (no matter the circumstances) and someone told you that dosent know you have to have it. no just no. it should be a MOTHER"S -right- to decide what to do with HER life. why should you be able to stop her? why are you so special that you get to decide for other people? Besides the fatc that mothers who dont want a child and are forced to have it. end up abondening the child after its born anyways.so in the end the people who want an abortion are killing their kids anyways and my personal opinion is its better to abort it when its not even a lifeform yet then to kill it when its acutally a "life". Do you see what i mean? you cant force people to do the right thing because theyre going to do whatever the hell they want anyways no matter what you think. whether its right or wrong. none wow paragraph much? eek well i wanted to rant cause so many people are being naive......

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Woman's choice: its HER child, not ours. If you say "but its baaad/evil/etc" youre not reasoning in a gain/loss way, but in a moral/religious one. Besides, its her child, so as long as he doesnt suffer, she can put an end at his life. In fact, at quite any time before 2-3 months (?) from the birth, he cant possibly survive without her, so she has all the rights on this life form. No state/religion can enter our own body and reclaim our organs: its like they said its illegal to masturbate cause im killing potential lives (and who knows, maybe theyll say it sometime). Im the owner of my sperm cells and testicles, a woman is the owner of her womb. People that dont give the pill must be prosecuted for interruption of public service and eventually life damage (if a unwanted baby is conceived)

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I personally believe abortion is necessary UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

Some people arent fit to be parents and some of them know that the current living situation that they're in arent fit for raising children. (e.g the slumps...prostitution...war..) how can they raise a child like this?


This hentai manga Mai-chan's daily life may be a bad example but the mangaka does give a good point of how a child being born by a certain lineage and DOOMED to be just like their PARENTS?

and children bornt out of incest..rape victim..or a fetus who has a complications and extreme deformity when he/she was in the mother's womb. Is it alright to Prolong his/her suffering once he/she born in this world? or go through a really bad Childhood with maternal deprivation...of which is incredibly delicate for a growing child?


I remember a really good episode on "Chicago Hope" drama series about a religious parent whom the mother was carrying a heavily deformed fetus and they had to make ethical choices on whether to let their child born 'naturally' the way he is bornt with or...'change' his fate through surgery in the womb?

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i do approve of abortion.

if you think you can't succesfully raise a child, you should get and abortion. life is not all pink and love doesn't conquer all the difficulities which you face while bringing up a child.

though i am also against this idea:

"i don't want to give birth since it is gonna ruin my body?"

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and one las thing:

even though i approve of abortion, i don't think people should think abortion as a birth control method.

"- ohh i forgot to wear a condom
- it is ok i can always get an abortion."

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I don't believe that any person has the right to judge another person for an action they feel they have to take.
With that said, it is no one's business but the woman who is making the choice to have one and her doctor.
If you do not want one, do not get one when you find out you are pregnant. Women know that if they get one they might have "what if" thoughts. But if you think about it logically, people have what if thoughts about every major decision they make.
An abortion is a major decision, but as said it is between a woman and her doctor.

The reason why they have to make abortion legal, make morning after pills legal, is because otherwise some doctors will not give them to women. They have their own morals, which is well and dandy, but if they are the only doctor in a 50 mile area and the woman doesn't have the expenses to seek another doctor in the next state or city, who can she turn to? Alley abortions. And we know full well the rate of success those have and the rate of death.

Abortion laws are not meant for women who can afford the best doctors who will do whatever so long as they are getting paid. They are meant for poor women who have no other options, sometimes no supporting family, who knows that if she had that child, he or she will not have a good life. Malnutrition, growing problems, and emotional problems stem from poverty.

Abortion is not just an issue in the United States and other wealthy countries where it is labeled frivolous because women appear to have money and the means to have them. It is an issue in many poor countries, where women cannnot afford to feed a 5th or 6th child, who already have so many children because their church runs their state and makes it very hard for these women to find birth control.

While yes, I believe life is very important, but I would never force women to bear a child they do not want, even if adoption is an option. It is metaphorically chaining them to the ground.

(And don't even get me started and the hypocrisies of the adoption system - everyone wanting a Gerber baby instead of taking in a child who needs a home).


Your oppinion is amazing on this topic, and I agree with all of it.

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her choice not mine. oh and all of those anti-abortion groups put up pictures of aborted babies... those aborted babies are like that cause they abort it like a month before its due. the woman should know the consequences of aborting a baby and if she does abort then she does. eyes

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I feel that it is a woman's choice...
Just because some people get their panties in a twist about it doesn't mean it concerns them...
It's like gay marriage (which I also support) It doesn't affect anyone other than those who are involved... (again, my english sucks, so I'm sorry if the idea is slightly mangled... embarrassed )

Btw, i DON'T intend to start an argument on gay marriage just because I used it to support my opinion... If you like it, good for you. If you don't, than that's your opinion and I don't intend to change it

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A though question indeed. Abortion shouldn't be used as a way of contraceptive. At least we should agree on that. I mean: "Oh we had sex last night and I got pregnant, God bless the abortion option". When you're having fun in bed you should take responsibility for what might happen.

The final decision should be the mother's. However claiming that she should be in full control no matter what is -imo- wrong.
If you are wrong to raise a child if it's likely to be "doomed", why not wait to see how it turns out after it's born, and then kill if the situation doesn't allow it to live? In both cases it's a mercy kill right? Hell all women in the 3rd world should just perform abortion if that's the logic we're going by. And I know someone who actually stands by this, to ease the suffering in the world.

I'm not trying to judge anyone here, but -seriously- people actions and thoughts must be judged to contain morality in society. I mean: "I decide it's best for me now to go and rape and kill a hooker. I feel I have to do it". If no one is there to stop me I will do it. No one can judge me for it, 'cause it's my right to do whatever I believe/feel is right for me.

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i feel that it is a women's choice in the matter, i feel like that if i were ever to get pregnant at my age i would consider the points that i am not ready to have a child i would either pick to have the child and give it to a deserving family or abort the child since i could not give the child what it truly needed. Now i know a few people who are "abortion survivors" (mother chose not to abort), people who have aborted a child and people who have given up their child to family. I feel that from conceiving to three months that i feel that it is ok to have an abortion but after that i feel that its cruel. But i feel that the government has no say in this...

the US government needs to have a more comprehensive sex education so that not so many people would not get knocked up so early and this would not be as much of a problem. Bush's Abstinence only education is a complete failure...aids, stds, and pregnancies are on the rise

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