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1) The girl is a nerdy, geeky, glasses wearing girl and she meets a hot guy who suddenly makes her want to change. She gets a make-over, stop wearing her glasses, gets contacts, become more sexy, and fall for the guy. Yay.
Maybe I hadn't read enough of these types, but do even all girls that get the makeover had glasses? But if they do, I guess it's so the makeover is more drastic.
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3) I hate those girls who say they want to fight but when it's time to duke it out they can't fight to save a ant's life. Worthless pieces of sh*t.
Hmm, I don't know who you mean exactly, but I guess I've seen this happen a bit. But I would find it human if she's scared, but also find it bad if she gets herself in the situation and then expects someone to bail her out ahead of time. If she finds out that she got in over head, well that was a bad mistake.
But if a guy turned his back on a girl in her time of need, I'd say she should end any fawning she has over him and move on to the next guy. But that would be a shift unless she comes back to him but then I'd be annoyed she decided to stay with him (even if he wasn't a boyfriend when he disappointed her).
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4) I'm tired of the bad-guy-who-everyone-is-afraid-of-but-actually-have-a-soft-side-to- them. Borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringgggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!! Why can't they just be the ultimate bad guy with no good side to them? And be a pschopath!
Well if he was a nutcase, I wonder how far his story could be before the manga becomes a shounen. He might not get too much character development beyond the situation that drove him over the edge and if he's pure evil, he might get killed off, and not much screen time either.
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I detest characters that don't have high self esteem! Sometimes it's cute playing damsel in distress, but it gets annoying if it's done rather often. I'm reading Gokusen and that's what I like about the main female character. She's strong and doesn't have does moments of weakness like acting dumb and stuff like that. It's sooo stereotypical!
If she relies on the guy 99% and doesn't do anything (not even feel guilty for being useless), that situation has earned my annoyance.
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I don't like that they are somewhat simple-minded and every time there's a little argument with the main male character, the female char. goes like "he hates me now". I'm sorry but hate is a strong word. They shouldn't just throw it around like that, why can't they be more confident.
Yeah, I can agree on the dislike of this cliche if it's a small squabble that a girl takes it too personally with being "hated", but it might not be that she's lacking confidence in herself but the relationship, right? She could be a drama queen for a while because things can seem really bad at the time of occurrence than in hindsight. But I'm not necessarily surprised at how "hate" is used when "dislike" is sufficient. The way people are using "hate" when listing the shoujo cliches they don't like aren't really saying "I wish with endless-burning-murdering-anger that every story that has or will have this type of cliche be burned or never published" in a loud and dead-serious tone. (I did not want to use full-caps for that sentence.) If person actually is like that, more than temporary (notice the "endless" in there?), that person scares me.
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Alright, maybe this isnt a cliche that can be counted but it is something that I dislike due to my preference in long hair. But I hate how in almost every time, main girl's first change she makes is bam, boy hair. Forget the long hair, make it butch. Its the one thing I cant stand. Best example in this case for me is Skip Beat, prior to the boyification, Kyoko actually was a cute character, now with the shortness, not so much.
Hmm, I haven't read Skip Beat but I guess the hair cutting was for a change of mindset/transformation. I guess why the girls have to look like a boy might be their way of saying they don't need guys.
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I hardly ever read Shoujo, because most of it is about one thing and one thing only. Looooove. The art is weak. The stories are predictable. A typical story goes something like....
Art is all subjective and "predictatable"...well I guess that will happen with a formula. Sometimes a formula or part of one is still good to watch again, even if it isn't original.
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Girl A's parents died in car crash, so she has to support herself with part time jobs while going to school. She really likes rich boy, but snobby girls make her life a living hell. However, we know that rich boy will see her goodness despite the fact that she 1. trips down the stairs forcing him to catch her, 2. catches a fever from being out in the rain without an umbrella forcing him to bring her medicine, 3. is the subject of malicious rumors started by snobby girls.
If a guy can't forgive that a girl is a klutzy occasionally (I can sort of understand if she draws bad luck to her), that's not a guy I want to even bother "cheering" for.
I think there is at least one occasion where the girl falls on the stairs and that the guy doesn't catch her but she lands on him instead. I don't know if girl would fall without the guy being there, and then the girls meets the evil girl too.
Does any story have all of that in that order?
I guess in a long manga I haven't read (yet). The dead parents happens but I wouldn't think it happens enough to be a cliche.Quote from McCamyTaylor
Basically, they are all a retelling of Cinderella.
Some would be more Beauty and the Beast if the guy was a jerk at first but improves. But maybe you'll still resent that kind because it's a fairytale and still a formula.
If you mean by a girl gets together with a guy, well that's really no surprise in all honesty. But other than the guy being good-looking, I think maybe 20-30% of the time is when the girl's love interest is rich enough to live in a big mansion-type house. But I don't remember many poor-boy types either (but they are probably less then the rich-boy stories).
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