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1:05 am, Mar 9 2009
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Has anyone heard or read anything new on this little battle?

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1:56 am, Mar 12 2009
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I REMEMBER READING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
Where did i read it? where?
But i do remember that Takashima-san lost the case. And i was furious, because why? THE IMAGES WERE SO SIMILAR.
Wasn't there proof that Kayono traced a Calvin Klein model and just changed it to her style and made it her own? It's still plagiarism!

Oh i found the site that I saw!
http://kayono_kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/kenshougazou.html

Just click on the links.

KAYONO PRACTICALLY TRACED, COPIED-AND-PASTED.

Apparently, Kayono's parents pressured the "higher ups" so that the charges were dropped. <-- as i read somewhere.

Although i feel really bad about Takashima-san being plagiarized, I don't think that her hiatus strike would stop kayono from copying other people. She's got her mighty parents to pressure the higher ups, remember? =|

EDIT: And i haven't heard anything new on this case. I think it's still in a stand still.
But she is still making manga. her 5th volume of Harlem Beat wa Yoake made was released on August 08, not so long ago. Takashima-san can't quit being a mangaka just 'cause somebody was copying. sad

2nd Edit: oh crap, all the info i just posted was already all on Kayono's MU page. *cough*
I feel like i just busted a kayono with my post. *lol*

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2:40 pm, Mar 28 2009
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Apparently, Ida Chikae, Kayono's mother, was there during the court trail, and she did her best to slander Kayashima's name, her manga works, as well as the entire BL genre in general. When Kayono was faced with questions regarding the plagiarism by fans, Chikae replied," Kayono doesn't read BL, so she can't copy what she didn't read." After the case ended, she went to Kayashima's publishers and pressured them to stop releasing her works, in order to end her career. Kayashima probably knew the case results beforehand, and submitted her rough drafts of Last Client before they imposed the two year ban on her.

It was despicable, but that's how it is. It seems Kayashima has moved on from this ordeal though, and the best way is simply to support her more than ever, and to let her know her works are loved worldwide. She has the advantage of having her works released in America, and on September 2008, she was invited as a guest to a con in Germany. In truth, although the case was resolved horribly, the evidence is right there in the website, detailing the comparison between each copied panel. She is simply no match to Takashima's caliber.

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for the petition thing i found one from someone at a different site. It may not have a lot of signatures so far but its better than nothing =/

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/takashima-kazusa.html

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12:26 pm, Nov 11 2009
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I love Takashima Kazusa and
I can't believe they forbid her to draw mangasfor two years or so!
I mean it's really obvious that kayano copied her!
Just because her parents are famous mangakas it doesn't mean anything!
Arggh! I would love to hit Kayano in the face!

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7:09 pm, Nov 11 2009
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I'm so mad about this case! I mean, it was so obvious that Kayono copied Takashima's work! And I heard a rumor that she's not going to finish any of her bl stories or start any new ones. Does anyone know if that's true? I love all her work, but her yaoi was always my favorite! cry

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I also think that this is really unfair!! and it's driving me really mad... I mean she has such a beautiful art and the storys are really interesting like last client.
I also found lilmuis page and signed ^^...hope its helping.
If not I have to wait for two whole years...><

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Kayono is such a *** bitch. I cannot stand it.
I love Wild Rock and Private Magician so much.
Private Magician has been stopped at chapter 3 when things r getting interesting.
This is not the old ages when people don't know internet and 2 ideas coming from 2 people in different times can be considered as independent!!!
Kayono obviously has copied Takashima Kazusa-sensei works mad

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Quote from darcyaglow
Kayono is such a *** bitch. I cannot stand it.
I love Wild Rock and Private Magician so much.
Private Magician has been stopped at chapter 3 when things r getting interesting.
This is not the old ages when people don't know internet and 2 ideas coming from 2 people in different times can be considered as independent!!!
Kayono obviously has copied Takashima Kazusa-sensei works mad


I completely agree with you. Private Magician was getting really good! The same thing happened with Last Client, it was getting really interesting and then it wasn't finished! I just hope she picks up her old titles after she can. I'm so pissed off that she lost her case, it was definately only because the genre was yaoi and Kayono's mom was a mangaka too.

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Someone can enlightenment about this
I read in messages above Kazusa Takashima was banned for 2 years (to stop her works) cuz she lost the case sad . Just today i go to her webpage and see he is posting messages (all at Japanese so I don't understand) this means she is finally come back of her banned ? and if it is the case someone knows if she is plainning to take again her unfinish works (like Last client) or the bane thing means that she won't able to take never again her works ? someone tell me if she is come or what , cuz i don't find new info about her

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Ok i found this info of here but still I have my doubt: the bane thing means that she won't able to take never again her unfinished works confused?
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She filed a lawsuit against fellow mangaka Kayono in 2004. The lawsuit was founded on Takashima's belief that Kayono had directly traced over her work Wild Rock, and used it for her own manga. The judge threw out the case (resulting in Takashima losing). Takashima decided(<<< this is more like was banned) to go on hiatus, leaving all of her series unfinished.She resumed work in 2007 with the fourth installment of Harlem Beat wa Yoake Made. Since then, she has finished the series, Wild Rock and Man's Best Friend have been reprinted, and she did a pinup of Chris (from her series Last Client, which had been left on hiatus) in Biblos's GOLD magazine. She also changed websites. From wiki

So she is back since 2007 but still no new updates of her unfinished mangas? sad (( too bad no

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@Fampar I'm so glad someone brought this up again. It may be a lost cause but it's important that we keep the matter alive. I've opened a thread about this very subject last year but the news weren't good, sadly.

After the hiatus, the only works sensei managed to complete were the ones already licensed in English: Wild Rock (2002-2007) and Inu mo Arukeba Fallin' Love (2004-2007). I think that's it. Her unfinished (and not licensed) projects will probably remain unfinished. I don't think the reason behind this is the two-year ban. That is long overdue, no? I think maybe Takashima-sensei simply felt discouraged about continuing them or she found it hard to get it published even after all this time...

I miss Last Client sooo much sad

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Thanks so much for the answer MirayAllen
cry A shame , all of this make me think maybe, like you said the sensei doesn't feel like finishing more works which could be stealed by people like Kayono >.<

Too bad, well , now the only thing we have is just keeep waiting <- last hope ;u; cry

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For any new visitors coming to this forum the archived page with the image comparisons:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100526074907/http://kayono_ kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/kenshougazou.html

Images there:
1 - https://web.archive.org/web/20070421055334/http://kayono_ kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/image/up1.jpg

2 - https://web.archive.org/web/20070224163352/http://kayono_ kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/image/up2.jpg

3 - https://web.archive.org/web/20070226220415/http://kayono_ kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/image/up3.jpg

4 - http://kayono_kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/image/up4.jpg

5 - https://web.archive.org/web/20070226220423/http://kayono_ kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/image/up5.jpg

6 - https://web.archive.org/web/20070224192102/http://kayono_ kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/image/up030602_3.jpeg

7 - https://web.archive.org/web/20070313071213/http://kayono_ kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/image/up7.jpeg

8 - https://web.archive.org/web/20070313071754/http://kayono_ kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/image/elldeco51-1.jpg

9 - https://web.archive.org/web/20070313071519/http://kayono_ kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/image/elldeco51.jpg

10 - https://web.archive.org/web/20070316152342/http://kayono_ kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/image/gosho.jpg

11 - https://web.archive.org/web/20070313073215/http://kayono_ kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/image/kiyomizu.gif.jpg

12 - https://web.archive.org/web/20100402090019/http://kayono_ kenshou.at.infoseek.co.jp/lcm.html

The first few compare the mangas. Those are way too many similarities to be a coincidence, imo.

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