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Oh Great: Air Gear/ Tenjou Tenge..rant who hates betrayal??? anyone? (Spoilers)

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6:27 am, Apr 7 2009
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As the slowly...extremely slowly growing climax/ rising action of some of the most epic mangas out there....The pain inflicted to me by some of the characters still burns greatly within me...First off...I hate ringo....I hate her..yes I do. Circumstances or no, there's a limit to deception. If she really wanted to protect ikki, there was always an alternative to have him go live with someone else, or w/e. I am extremely old fashioned in the sense that, trust is something that people should value. If there is no trust seen in anyone. Then that person does not see them fit or worthy. I have been dying to have some kind divine punishment on ringo or something....I mean, everytime i reread the series (which i havne't done in a while after everything fell apart and made me hate ringo even more) I put myself in ikki's shoes and i wonder, why i wasn't told of anything? What am I then? It hurts like hell...and makes me pissed...

Now in tenjou tenge...the whole fighting everyone to kill one person...it doesn't really make sense to me...



does anyone share my pain ??? / :no:


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7:16 am, Apr 7 2009
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your thinking to much about it

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7:18 am, Apr 7 2009
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I probably am..but w/e...when I read..I live what I read...when I'm done reading I feel a lingering sense of..wtf just happened to me?

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7:56 am, Apr 7 2009
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Betrayal as a theme is greatly overused and annoying, especially in the exaggerated manner in which it is presented in most anime and manga. It is one of the typical cliches, though, so I try not to think about it too much unless the author didn't bother to put in any sort of pre-text for it to make sense. If s/he can't be bothered, then neither can I.

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It seems to be a more shounen directed thread, so I'll move it.
Also, please use spoiler tags and refrain from over ranting. ^^

I guess it's kind of overused. Unless is't done well, there's little point reading about it (or it's annoying~?)... Berserk, oh Berserk... <3

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well to me its like "how the hell did it come to this" both air gear/tenge started out great but then it like listening to a person with a phd in physics on an acid trip and its like "when does he think up this shit" omaha
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sora being the main villain

not that it isnt still great

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i was laughing so hard...when i saw the connection! and the funny thing was...well the whole thing! and yeah..it used to be good..the concept was amazing..i mean..has anyone ever thought of being able to do those kinds of things w/ motorized skates? i mean...it's ingenious! the story was great..i didn't mind the drama at first..but
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betraying one another like 78 freakin times! it just pisses me off! and they just betray themselves!...damnint..ringo needs to pick a freakin side already..in the latest chap she is going to help kururu steal the metal needed for the storm regalia..who the hell side is she on anyway? can anyone tell me what is going on w/ her? damn her...at least kururu is still amazingly cute.
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So I take it I shouldn't pick Air Gear up from ch110 again? Can someone explain to me whats going on with Ringo, Genesis and Sleeping Forest. And what are the Gravity children?

Oh Great's stories get confusing but I'm trying to stick with Tenjou Tenge. confused

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5:46 pm, Apr 7 2009
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Why did the stories have to go so out there, and if they did couldn't they keep it more organized so we could follow it with out going wtf.

Also,
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the whole family is to be blamed why only ringo everyone lied to him


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5:50 pm, Apr 7 2009
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Actually imho...

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I think that more than betrayal, the crap you talk about Ikki-ringo relationship is omission, and yeah actually the fact that kinda annoys me of Air Gear is that noone tells the truth to the main chara until it's too late... On the other hand, I think it was stated more than a dozen times that Ringo is actually supporting Ikki before Sleeping, if not she would have gotten rid of him quite a long time ago...


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what better way to milk something for what it's worth than to drag out things, rofl. But yea... Ringo is a hypocritical, love or hate, type of character...

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and the sudden introduction of main characters a good way into the series that blows away every other love interest and the fact that the author seems so indecisive at points about what he should do with character throws me off on where the story's going which piss me because i like to atleast be able attempt try to figure out whats going to happen and i've stopped for air gear 2 years ago

i have yet to decide who i hate more sakura or ringo i almost swore off all pink haired girls but then i remembered simca had pink hair and she wasnt that bad even if she was seemingly randomly taken out of the manga for some reason

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ok that's fair..everyone in the "family" lied to him..but the fact that ikki held the greatest relationship w. ringo only leads him to be hurt even more compared to rika, mikan and ume.... and that is so true.. i realized that...Oh Great only reveals the truth to the main chara when it's too late...great insight man...and
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in the fight between ringo and ikki, you know..the one where he uses the regalia and it breaks, but kururu comes in flying with the real ones? and whoops ringo? she definitely was trying to kill him...or at least take him out of the race for "his own good" simca too...she a whore..just saying
. there has to be something to balance everything out! Oh great has some of the greatest art i have ever seen...the story line and concepts are original...but compared between their own series...the character profiles are somewhat repetitive and generically painful. The chance of potential was great, but Idk why betrayal has to be a reoccuring thing till everyone is dead? I swear, the peopel of Oh Great must hate life or something or got dumped or was backstabbed or something b/c there is nothing good to see in life and romance in their series.


still thogh...i love/hate it...damn this love/hate relationship~

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I've only read 10 chapters of Air Gear, but I've read most of Ten Ten.

All I have to say is it's an Oh! Great manga. Nothing else needs to be said.

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When I reached the point where it became clear that Ringo betrayed Ikki for the first time, I hated her more than I've hated any manga-character ever before!

THEN!! out of the blue, she ain't even HUMAN!!


I almost started crying, saw Ikki crying, felt the pain with him...
Haven't read Air Gear since..

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