Cause it's a great example. Both parties think they are the greatest and the other one is evil so nothing gets done. Like in this case where it's just opinions clashing.



You are talking about some south Korean politics who I frankly don't care about, and compare that to western police having too much to do? Remind me again how this has anything to do with how people not liking e.g. isekai is detrimental to the Japanese culture.

Homogenization is part of globalization. You may like it or not but when a lot of people with different background come together that is what happens. Again, things change.

How is it bad when consumers of a medium say: okay, we kinda had enough of this can we have something new soon?

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What was your opinion on Pop Team Epic (That's really the only "dedicated" gag series I've really seen)? Also, with applying some tags, do any of these series sound interesting to you?

No, that's exactly the point.

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Most of those look pretty lame IMO, if I'm being honest. 3rd-year kimengumi and Ninja Rantarou are the only two I'd really care for and it's because I sort of already know what they are already. As for pop team epic, it's a literal meme, and Super Milk Chan did it's shtick better. I mean, back on topic if you like most of these, more the power to you, I'm not saying they're bad even, just, not what I'm into. I expressed pretty clearly that in regards to what I like.



As the person who was the one MAKING THE POINT IN THE FIRST PLACE, what I like in specific was besides the point in every regard. I don't know how else I can make it clearer that I was arguing on a point of principle and concept, not in specifics.

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Transdude1996, that is a great collection of extra-funny manga. I'm going to save it to select some to read.

But notice that the list covers 26 years. Maybe the truth is it's really, really hard for anyone to create excellent and/or extra-funny manga hits. That could be why the manga artists of any given time period concentrate on churning out whatevere manga are the current fad. About 10 years ago the current fad was harem manga. Now it's "called to another world" manga.

What is going on seems obvious. Manga-creation is a job by which they hope to earn a living. You can't be brilliantly creative every year of your manga career. Every year that you can't be, you have to turn out something anyway. That's why a snapshot of what's being published at any given time will contain mostly mediocre and a lot of junk manga.

I doesn't have to do anything with it. I was just responding to you talking about how all the topics I'm mentioning are "speculative".

When the people demanding that this "change" happens is an overwhelmingly small part of the market that is supporting the company, or when those demanding change are not even a part of the company's core market, or when the company somehow becomes popular so you have an influx of people who only became a part of the market because it was popular.


Okay, getting a better idea of what you're looking for. Does the exaggerated art style also play a part in it?

I haven't read a single one of those series that I pulled up. I was searching for stuff for you.


All...I...did...was set tags to "Gag", "Episodic", "-Male Demographic with Female Lead" and "-Cute Female Lead", selected "Only show manga with at least one release", and selected the genres as "Comedy" and "Shounen" while excluding "Drama", "Harem", and "Romance". If you leave it with the bare minimum of what AkumatsuT seems to want (Set tags to "Gag" and "Episodic", selected "Only show manga with at least one release", and selected the genre as "Comedy" ) you get a larger list.


With the expanded list I provided above, the two oldest series that come up are Doraemon and Fushigi na Melmo, both of which started in 1970. Also, as I said, there's still numerous series out that that are unaccounted for that the site doesn't list, as well as dozens of series already listed here that are not properly tagged or receive insufficient tagging.

Hate to say it, but a lot of the "best" series Japan produces isn't really original. When the West released Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, and Star Trek, the East responded with series such as Macross and The Most Irresponsible Man in Space (Captain Tylor). When things like Blade Runner and Mad Max came out, it was followed up with Ghost in the Shell and Gunnm. Also, it probably doesn't help that the prime trio from back then (TEZUKA Osamu, AKATSUKA Fujio, ISHINOMORI Shotaro) all died, and the current "elders" of anime (MIYAZAKI Hayao, ANNO Hideaki, NAGAI Go, SHIROW Masamune) are otakus and/or favored drawing erotica.


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Most of the 2018 MU entries struggle to get 10 votes together. Why would anyone compare those ratings to entries of much older and even worse specifically selected series?
Ones where hundreds to thousands of people voted on top! The premise of the tread is thus a mess. Impossible to analyze too, but where have you guys even drifted off too?
Why do anime and manga discussion immediately turn into weird gamergate-ish The Donal tangents if they veer off track for even a minute? Someone should analyze that instead... ?

URASAWA Naoki just started a new and promising manga. The ultimately above average Your Name. bathed in both money and acclaim. Hayao Miyazaki came back from retirement for another "final" final film. And so on.
Vapid trash was the default mode for anime/manga a few decades ago but only works that broke the mold in some way are still remembered. It will be the same with the current crop. Most entrenchment products are lastly bleh by default. Walk through your local bookstore or browse through Netflix or PSN. You will soon see what I mean.

Transitional years further exist in all industries, if 2018 happens to be one for manga. It isn´t for US comics. I know at least that.

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That's my point, I've brought up how many times now that what I was getting at was I'm Tired of otakubait erotica/borderline erotica being the norm. It's not fun anymore, the reason I don't read modern manga is because this is what the standard is, just throw a bunch of cute girls together and write something about it, maybe with them in a video game or some other contrived setting. of course there's some deviation here and there, and it's not as bad as anime has it, but it's a pain.



What's your point here? None of those series are even that similar to the things they take inspiration from IMO. Nobody was claiming you had to be ENTIRELY original in the first place, that's impossible.



Ah! unrelated to my other two points, but I should get around to fixing that actually, I've been going through a ton of Akatsuka's works that are already available and fixing some info on them, but one thing I forgot was to add tags.

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I know this discussion is pretty much dead, but I thought that people would like to know which anime for this season are in the top 20: Source
1. Toaru Majutsu no Kinsho Mokuroku (Novel)
2. Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (Novel)
3. SSSS.GRIDMAN
4. Sword Art Online: Project Alicization
5. JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Ougon no Kaze
6. Goblin Slayer (Novel)
7. Seishun Buta Yarou (Novel)
8. Karakuri Circus
9. Tokyo Ghoul:re
10. Yagate Kimi ni Naru
11. Iroduku: The World in Colors
12. Dakaretai Otoko Ichii ni Odosarete Imasu.
13. Kishuku Gakkou no Juliet
14. Golden Kamui
15. Skull-Face Bookseller Honda-san
16. Ore ga Suki nano wa Imouto dakedo Imouto ja Nai
17. Uchi no Maid ga Uzasugiru!
18. Kaze ga Tsuyoku Fuite Iru
19. Tonari no Kyuuketsuki-san
20. Hinomaru-Zumou


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