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Post #763666 - Reply to (#763627) by VawX
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9:24 pm, Aug 26 2018
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Getting help isn't always a solution for some sadly ?

Post #763741 - Reply to (#763660) by zarlan
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get professional help [...] so as to be better equipped to adapt to society

Am I the only one who thinks that having to "adapt to society" is a proof that our system is wrong?

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adaptation can be done right or wrong, it can be easy or very difficult.
it is recommended that you adapt so you feel less stress, and the frequency where a given situation triggers you is reduced.
adaptation to the point where you feel you're expending more energy to be different from your current state can be a disincentive to maintaining those changes because it's supposed to make life easier; though this transition phase could be temporary and the amount of effort expended could be reduced with practice.


Post #763752 - Reply to (#763741) by ForeignerChan
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I'm actually hoping to get an official diagnosis sometime soon, so I'll come back to this poll when I do (if it hasn't closed yet).

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Am I the only one who thinks that having to "adapt to society" is a proof that our system is wrong?

I do agree that the system is, on some level, wrong, and that society needs to be more welcoming/available for those with mental health issues (and, by extension, those with disabilities, physical or mental). On another level, seeking professional help is a good and important thing. Rather than framing it as "adapting to society", though, I would frame it as "something to do to help yourself".

Of course, I understand that sometimes professional help isn't exactly feasible for most folks, for whatever reason... But there are resources available (hotlines, for instance, are open 24/7 and always free) depending on where you live. (Google if your friend here!) If you're currently in school, and feel safe doing so, talk to a counselor or go to your college's health resource center. They're often a lot more helpful than you might think.

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5:08 am, Aug 30 2018
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Obvious one left out is IAD - internert addiction disorder

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2:47 pm, Aug 30 2018
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ocd and autism most likely.
ocd not in the way where you compulsively need to wash hands because they aren't clean, but more in the way of checking something several times because you can't remember if you did something.

autism just based on how long I have spent in rpgs doing monotonous quests, there has to be a little bit there.

Post #763766 - Reply to (#763741) by ForeignerChan
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Am I the only one who thinks that having to "adapt to society" is a proof that our system is wrong?

This is part of such a much larger topic that I don't even know where to start. To begin with, no, you are not alone. However, your view on society is very limited.

EVERYONE has mental health issues. Everyone. We're all retarded, we're all autistic, we all have OCD, depression, addiction, whatever, however, this is all to varying degrees. When it comes to the medical fields, they handle the more extreme cases. Now, here comes the question into play, why do they have to handle these cases in the first place? Well, it's the same reason why being a male homosexual was once considered a mental health issue decades ago before being removed due to political reason. It's to ensure humanities survival. 1 male and 1 female produce a kid, there has yet to be any evidence found in nature that says otherwise. So, for 1 male to get together with another male runs counter to nature because "It doesn't work like that" to paraphrase.

Now, that's a crash course on the natural side of things, what about the societal? Now, just like animals, humans have adapted to live in the environments they've chosen to reside in. Africans are black, Europeans are white, American-Indians are red, Asians are bug-eyed, etc. And, with those differences, societies have formed differently as well to best accommodate the resources of their land and features (Kingdoms in Europe, Nomads in Africa, Empires in South America, Dynasties in Asia, Tribes in North America). Now...
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...the way the world has developed in the past 500 years has largely been due to Europeans pursuing capitalist and religious ventures. The result in this was the exploration of the North American continent, the creation of a society of people that broke ties with all those "Old World" powers and not willing to accept anyone else in with that "Old World" mindset, coming to then be a world leader that threatens all those "Old World" powers, and being seen in such a might that you see countries in Africa and Asia sprouting up and attempting to do their best to mimic or follow that society so that they can progress too.

Now, how does this relate all back to the issue of mental health? Simply put, all that wouldn't be able to happen if people weren't at the top of their game. And, to do that since everyone suffers a mental health issue to some degree, they had to move beyond or learn to live with those barriers plaguing their life. They didn't have time to be depressed because they were too busy pursuing their dreams. They didn't let their PTSD limit them on the tasks they could accomplish, so they learned to get over them. None of them learned what an consumption disorder even was because all they had to survive on for an entire month was a loaf of bread because they spent the rest of their money on a more important project that would allow them to get to the point where they could have a loaf a bread each day.

In some ways, people could say that the entire issue of "mental health" is nothing more than a scam brought on because society has reached the point that we can be so privileged that we don't have push those barriers as aggressively as people used. And, a privilege it is when you have people who should be sent to a psych ward prancing about on the streets, unironically believing that they're a purple unicorn, have an axe wound in they're groin they refuse to let heal, haven't even bathed for months, living in an apartment that's a fire hazard waiting to happen after they've had their electricity and their gas and their water shut off, and want to talk about how society is suppose to reach some grand utopia of understanding while hating everyone that doesn't indulge in every bit their delirious life. And, the most ironic part is that even the more primitive parts of the world attack or even kill people who indulge in this mindlessness because it runs counter to EVERYTHING that is required of humans for our most basic survival. As far as I know, the only first-world countries that don't suffer this issue is Japan.

Now, with all that said, there are some mental health issues that do need to be treated because they are a biological problem rather than a mental one. However, the only one that I know of is schizophrenia. Everything else about the mental health field boils down to two categories. The first is the darker side of things where it's all about politics and money, and part of the reason people hate the medical field to begin with. The second category, however, is that your shrink or doctor basically acts as your coach, and they are there to help you. And, it is advised to see them for the more extreme problems due to the experience they have or their study of it. However, you're not going to progress unless you want to. They can show you the door, but you have to walk through it.

That's an extreme summary of why society forces people to adapt, because it's required for our most basic survival and progression.
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Like I said, this is a MUCH larger topic, and I think I may have bastardized the explanation of some things.


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