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someone posted screencaps of the main admin talking about eventually pulling a fakku, which prompted multiple groups to delete their shit. This prompted several up loaders and scanalators to sign and the admin insists that this was taken out of context. They insists that they we not planing to go legit and Holo's comments were but a pipedream. Keep in mind that the people who kickstarted this also have vested interest. Most of the groups who signed on with this post are BIG donations whores or have patreons . Many groups were pissed at being criticized/trolled for doing delayed releases, which is what they mean when they say " targeted hate from members of the MD community.".
tl;dr: enterprising scanlators with vested interest to get people to come to there sites attack mangadex for maybe planning their own enterprise.
tl;dr: enterprising scanlators with vested interest to get people to come to there sites attack mangadex for maybe planning their own enterprise.
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Apparently joking about mangadex going legit is a common thing on the discord, which prompted the shit in pic 3 (I can't verfiy this as I refuse to use discord). This shit supposedly started because a group called facepalm scans sniped another group (hatigram scans) and called them donation whores. They got pissed that mangadex did nothing against the snipers, which contributed ot here shitfit. Keep in mine that while mangadex hasn't invasivly tried to make money as hard as the scanners that left, they are still trying to make money by selling mangadex™ merchandise and taking donations to keep up site costs. Mangadex doesn't even disclose their donation amounts, but they say if they did it would piss off publishers to retaliate with a cease and desists(I can't say that wrong with how autistic business people are, but you would figure you wouldn't be able to see how much views a manga got if this were the case) and/or get cloudfare to kick them to the curv( this is also somewhat believable to me, with how temperamental cloudfare is with who they support, altohugh I am unaware on there stance on piracy). Still, mangadex has a history of sidesteppnig criticisms and accusation so who knows. Overall looks like a thorough shitstorm. I'm not certain if anybody is worth trusting at this point. You gotta watch your back to not get stabbed in it with this shit.
The "Pic 3" is in the first thread provided below.
Here's the sources of the events for those interested:
http://archive.fo/dSozM
https://mangadex.org/thread/92399
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Dear Mangadex, readers, and all interested parties,
When it was announced that Batoto would be retiring, the scanlation world went into frenzy, looking for a new place to call the scanlation hub. From within this panic, Mangadex (MD) was announced, giving hope to all teams that were reliant on Batoto for their releases. We all assumed that MD would be the next Batoto-esq platform that we had all come to love, respect and cherish. However, this assumption was nothing short of a blunder on our part as a lot of teams collectively started experiencing what we'd call targeted hate from members of the MD community. The source of this hate was quite apparent as MD had become a breeding ground for this hate against scanlation teams that failed to follow the wants of the MD admins/Mods and ally members.
The policies and methods MD employed to bolster their library of content created this rush for people to first upload content (for special roles), this was done assuming all active team leads would agree to this, which was obviously not the case. If teams decided to leave or not support MD, members of the community (call it the vocal minority or not) would head hunt team leads.
However you may interpret this, to us MD was forcing their own platform onto us, trying to make us abandon our sites and our chapter readers for something they had built.
Looking at MD's past and present, we've overlooked a lot of "issues" with MD, their platform and the readers they harbour. However it’s when we look at the future of MD as described by the man himself:
We see that to them, we scanlators are nothing but tools to their team to create something for themselves, fucking over the community like Fakku did (They went legal and removed all their scans for licenced works, fucking over their loyal site users). They're following a model called: Embrace, extend, and extinguish. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_exting uish) Essentially they're using us for their own benefit and once they reach their goal they’ll throw all readers under the bus. There are a lot of things we can mention that we're concerned about, but to come to point...
Looking at the past, present and future of MD, we've collectively decided that we're going to remove our teams and the content we've worked on from Mangadex. We’ve realized MD was never the Batoto we were looking for, just another aggregate site wanting to top em' all.
Thank you to the few who have supported our teams with positive words and encouragement, and thank you to the many that have helped us remove these rose colored glasses we've been forced to wear by showering us with hate.
Signed by:
Hatigarm Scans: Hatigarm
https://mangadex.org/user/2542/hatigarm
Champion scans: SirChampion
https://mangadex.org/user/14787/sirchampion
Impatient scans: PlumJucie
https://mangadex.org/user/17610/plumjucie
Jaiminis Box: Yunomi
https://mangadex.org/user/53762/yunomi
Silent Sky: Everath
https://mangadex.org/user/19451/everath
Shoujo Hearts: Avelys
https://mangadex.org/user/2583/avelys
Ninja Scans: bobl32
https://mangadex.org/user/57121/bobl32
CrossBreed Scans: Cimi
https://mangadex.org/group/1095/crossbreed-scans
Fans Scans: infi
Meraki Scans: celes
https://mangadex.org/user/229/celestialsidonia
Wowe-Returner Scans: Retard_
https://mangadex.org/user/11772/retard_
When it was announced that Batoto would be retiring, the scanlation world went into frenzy, looking for a new place to call the scanlation hub. From within this panic, Mangadex (MD) was announced, giving hope to all teams that were reliant on Batoto for their releases. We all assumed that MD would be the next Batoto-esq platform that we had all come to love, respect and cherish. However, this assumption was nothing short of a blunder on our part as a lot of teams collectively started experiencing what we'd call targeted hate from members of the MD community. The source of this hate was quite apparent as MD had become a breeding ground for this hate against scanlation teams that failed to follow the wants of the MD admins/Mods and ally members.
The policies and methods MD employed to bolster their library of content created this rush for people to first upload content (for special roles), this was done assuming all active team leads would agree to this, which was obviously not the case. If teams decided to leave or not support MD, members of the community (call it the vocal minority or not) would head hunt team leads.
However you may interpret this, to us MD was forcing their own platform onto us, trying to make us abandon our sites and our chapter readers for something they had built.
Looking at MD's past and present, we've overlooked a lot of "issues" with MD, their platform and the readers they harbour. However it’s when we look at the future of MD as described by the man himself:
We see that to them, we scanlators are nothing but tools to their team to create something for themselves, fucking over the community like Fakku did (They went legal and removed all their scans for licenced works, fucking over their loyal site users). They're following a model called: Embrace, extend, and extinguish. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_exting uish) Essentially they're using us for their own benefit and once they reach their goal they’ll throw all readers under the bus. There are a lot of things we can mention that we're concerned about, but to come to point...
Looking at the past, present and future of MD, we've collectively decided that we're going to remove our teams and the content we've worked on from Mangadex. We’ve realized MD was never the Batoto we were looking for, just another aggregate site wanting to top em' all.
Thank you to the few who have supported our teams with positive words and encouragement, and thank you to the many that have helped us remove these rose colored glasses we've been forced to wear by showering us with hate.
Signed by:
Hatigarm Scans: Hatigarm
https://mangadex.org/user/2542/hatigarm
Champion scans: SirChampion
https://mangadex.org/user/14787/sirchampion
Impatient scans: PlumJucie
https://mangadex.org/user/17610/plumjucie
Jaiminis Box: Yunomi
https://mangadex.org/user/53762/yunomi
Silent Sky: Everath
https://mangadex.org/user/19451/everath
Shoujo Hearts: Avelys
https://mangadex.org/user/2583/avelys
Ninja Scans: bobl32
https://mangadex.org/user/57121/bobl32
CrossBreed Scans: Cimi
https://mangadex.org/group/1095/crossbreed-scans
Fans Scans: infi
Meraki Scans: celes
https://mangadex.org/user/229/celestialsidonia
Wowe-Returner Scans: Retard_
https://mangadex.org/user/11772/retard_
Another thread on the discussion: http://archive.fo/IJ0wx
https://mangadex.org/thread/92416
Last edited by Transdude1996 at 8:18 pm, Jun 12 2019
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