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This is not happening it is obvious that times change but the part of the "cake" taken by asian "comics" (is that what you refer as the east?) is microscopic .
It's in no way "microscopic".
Manga has been destroying the sale of American comics, and has been for
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The marvel cinematic universe is a good (MCU) example of this (just look at their benefits)
You mean
becoming a success by
opening to empty theaters? If you're going to talk about how "
It's more than just comic sales", let's look at
the highest grossing media franchises in the world, the first one is
Pokemon. The second one is Hello Kitty. And, if you're going to throw up the fact that neither of those were "really" manga, just look at the fact that
Anpanman and
Shounen Jump still beat out the MCU (With the former having
never left the country).
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It is undeniable that piracy has given a blow to the traditional entertainment (in some cases fatal)
The only "fatal blow" that piracy has dealt is companies becoming paranoid and
treating everyone like a criminal because of how greedy they are.
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The comic (not just the American ones) have adapted to formats similar to : korean web-toons,meme sites ...
One, the most "adaptation" that American comics have undergone is selling their releases online. Two, webtoons
are not a good example of who to be following. Going by the Gook who occasionally shitposts about the political opera that is Worst Korea, one of his repeated topics is talking about how absolutely hates webtoons because of how it
was an active campaign to destroy the physical Manhwa industry that led to their rise (With none of it being natural in any way). That's coupled with the fact that
looking at
any drawing can get you on the country's sex offender, with a good amount of the webtoon websites getting off because the people in charge are the
same groups who screwed up the country in the first place and trying to make everything an exclusive community that they can control.
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This might be a bit off topic but the MCU is a good example of how "western" media adapts to times and has already overcome these new times.
You mean having their entire film series completely change in tone, direction, and attitude immediately after
Age of Ultron and
Ant-Man to where each new entry is worse than the previous one beginning with
Civil War? Although, honestly, the MCU hasn't been good since 2008. Or, are you talking about them
cancelling their hit TV series that turned into complete jokes?
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In their case they gave priority to fan-service (in their way: racial inclusion,strong female characters... ) rather than quality .
OKAY NOW I'M ANGRY! Why the fuck do you people act like there hasn't been a "diversity" in characters prior to the past decade of material? You've had
BLACK character for decades, you've had
AMERICAN INDIAN characters for decades, you've had
FEMALE characters for decades. You want me to make up a quick list? Okay, here's a few: Shadowman, Turok, Spawn, She-Hulk, Hawk and Dove, Blade, Witchblade, Apache Chief, Raven, Cyborg, Firestar, Static Shock, The Runaways.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO PROVE? You've
HAD diversity in comics for decades. A lot of these comics were
SUCCESSFUL for decades. The only difference
NOW is that you idiots keep screeching "
That's not good enough", and you're even admitting that these companies should compromise on quality in order to be
progressive,
which they are and it's killing them. And, before you come back with , "
Well, film audiences can't handle a minority on screen" please explain to me the success of the
Blade films? Or
Alien? Or
Resident Evil? Or
The Equalizer? Or
Tomb Raider? or
Terminator? Or
Rush Hour? Or
La Femme Nikita? or
Mulan? "
But what about minority writers?"
Romancing the Stone. "
But, what about on TV?"
Samurai Jack, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and Alias. "
But, those are offensive."
My Little Pony then.The point I'm trying to make is that
NONE of this big heaping pile of steaming bullshit is fanservice.
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To conclude in some way , I would like the highlight how in particular the manga/anime is adapting too slow to these changes due to it being (in my perspective) too rigid and not too relatable outside Japan (echi..doesn't sit too well outside) .
Then you can fuck right off. If you cannot relate to people outside of your special little circle and want everyone to conform to you, then I have news for you:
you are the definition of a psychopath.When initially writing this post, I never wanted to be hash, and I didn't plan to be hash. However seeing where you're coming from has resulted in me getting this harsh to get my point across. You want to know what the problem is with Western media,
it's people like you. People who want to destroy any form of free thought because it might offend someone. People who destroy thriving cultures because "we must accept everyone". People like you who will die in the name of "tolerance" when everyone else just sees you as the useful idiot to push their agenda because they say the right things. If you are a genuinely nice person and just repeating what you're told, the only form of advise I can offer you is to tell you to pull the chute and get out now. Where you're heading is not pretty.
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