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Post #787905 - Reply to (#787903) by Lorska
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9:00 am, Jan 2 2021
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Sugarshark brought up the matter, with the implication that if even legal adults can be banned from participating in pornography for fear of titillating pedophiles, loli/shota should be banned too. (Unless I'm misinterpreting.) rokyun apparently couldn't find any info about countries banning legal adults from porn for that particular reason, so I provided the only example I knew of offhand.

In any case, I wouldn't say it's unrelated. The underlying motivation in either ban is the same—neither situation involves actual children, so the focus is on appearances rather than results.

Post #787908 - Reply to (#787902) by Lorska
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lol i wasnt insulting 2 ppl tho?? i thought i only "insulted" 1🙁

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Post #787911 - Reply to (#787905) by hahhah42
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In any case, I wouldn't say it's unrelated. The underlying motivation in either ban is the same—neither situation involves actual children, so the focus is on appearances rather than results.

It's even over appearance anymore. You unironically have people sending death threats to game developers because having big breasted characters is now "illegal" somehow (I wish you could make this shit up).

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Post #787913 - Reply to (#787901) by hahhah42
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Thank you, I guess I didn't know how to search up that specifically! I was aware of the Australia ban on the second link but not on the frst link.

In the end it just depends from county to county instead of a "universal law" kinda thing.

This article seems to be interesting, with the IWF being hosted in UK, where cartoons are included in the exploitation laws against children. While the article didn't say what sources of tips couldn't be traced, and once they're not hosted in UK nothing can be done, I do think there's a great chance some of those images were simply lolisho art ppl found on twitter.

There's also the incident on twitter (lol yeah, I know) where an account dedicates to "expose people for being suspicious" literally got banned after posting actual CESM and encouraging its followers to report them.
This was a mistske because by reposting THE VERY GRAPHIC AND GROTESQUE IMAGES OF ACTUAL GIRLS BEING ABUSED he had found on twitter for the sake of reporting, they had actually shared the content, which is a crime in the US.
What should have happened was that they should have just submitted the tip. Since by downloading the images onto their computer and sharing it, even if they had good intentions, they saved and shared illegal content.

The user then returned a couple of days later and still claims they did nothing wrong.


I guess in the end it just makes me angry people equate irl abuse and sexual exploitation of children who will be traumatized to something like lolisho... 2D lines won't be traumatized.

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Post #787914 - Reply to (#787911) by Transdude1996
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Please. Developers of games get death threats for nearly everything now. Even voice actors get death threats just for voicing a controversial character. (See last of us 2 for that)
People being hateful idiots on the internet is nothing new.

Post #787915 - Reply to (#787914) by dreamer00013
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Please. Developers of games get death threats for nearly everything now. Even voice actors get death threats just for voicing a controversial character. (See last of us 2 for that)

The death threats to Naught Dog I can understand because they're a 35 year old AAA developer, who's actions over the past several years (Druckman forcing Amy Hennig out of the picture, butchering Uncharted, pulling publicity stunts that are losing fans and supporters) have seriously damaged their image (To the point that the question of the Game Awards being rigged is a serious topic, especially when looking at public opinion) and people are angry because they don't approve of the direction the company is heading.
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I'm not condoning it (I think anything of the sort is a waste of everyone's time, and that money speaks louder than words), but I can understand why people are mad in that regard.

However, the death threats towards Top Hat Studios over their independent horror game with tits (To the point that they're making a public statement, and part of the reason why people even know about the game now) is completely left field. Especially when the last time I heard about these guys was when Steam was banning their yaoi VNs and their response was that they're going to make their own Steam with blackjack and hookers.

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