I just made this post after seeing how very different the views of some were in a prior post by Transdude1996.
I think there was even someone in favour of objectifying women whilst supposedly defending women.

I mainly want to see your opinions is't on the term feminism but on:
Should the current standing of women in your country/around the world should be changed and how?
Do you think some crimes such as rape/ murder (in general or femicides) descend with a different mentality?
Maby an opinion on human trafficking /prostitution?
Do you think there are thoughts / skills inherent to men/women (what do you think they are)?(outside physical poweress)
Or whatever you think fits (I mean this isn't an essay 🤣 .But I'm really curious).

I'd prefer if don't comment on each other with dull remarks, refrain from topics like homo/trans sexuality (since they would make the topic too wide).

I personally thought feminism was all destroying the idea on treating women as objects (their husbands/partners possession) and trying to treat a man and a woman that have done exactly same equally. All this, in order to not let your sex make it imposible for you to achieve a certain post which "a priori" could be achieved indifferently by men and women alike.


But since many of you don't consider this feminism.
What do you consider it?Common sense?Unnatural ideas?...

One simple change that I could see drastically alter people's perspective practically overnight is making it a requirement for women to sign up for the military draft (Or your country's equivalent of it, some Asian countries make military service for a number of years a requirement for example). While everyone is focussed on the discussion of "equal rights", no one seems to acknowledge the other side of the coin, that is "equal responsibility". AFAIK, the draft is exclusively applied to men, and refusal to enlist results in forfeiting nearly all your rights as a citizen. So, if people really do want "equal rights" for everyone, make military enlistment a requirement for all of a country's populace, regardless of sex, or render the entire concept void and retire the draft.


Both are impulsive actions, however rape is never classified as "rape" half the time. Reason why is the retarded justification that "If your dick gets hard, then you wanted it" when that's never applied to when women start spurting out their juices while getting raped, that it's "impossible" for a woman to rape a man, and recent lawsuits have shown that even consensual sex isn't really "consensual sex".


Human trafficking is such an overblown issue that no one even knows if the police stings and busts are even legitimate anymore.


Women are more emotional, ambitious, and paranoid; meanwhile men are more logical, complacent, and confident. All these qualities are advantageous and a weakness.

________________

There were multiple options that I would have chosen, but I picked ‘Feminism tries to make it posible for women and men to do whatever they want without being discouraged.’ since that’s pretty broad and inclusive of notions like equal pay for equal work, addressing workplace harassment and discrimination, etc.

An important element of feminism to me is not treating women (or men - because we can’t abolish traditional gender roles for women without abolishing those for men and normalizing things like men minding children or doing housework) like a homogenous mass who all have the same character traits, interests, goals or talents and rather as individuals unbound by notions of femininity or masculinity and who shouldn’t be pre-judged or impeded in striving to do certain types of work or activities. Obv. not treating women like objects is essential but ‘women are human beings and deserve basic courtesy’ is a fairly simple concept that I like to think we’ve moved past where I live.

I'm aware of that other thread... And wish I weren't after reading some pearls.

Feminism is equalism. It's about treating everyone the same, disabling feminity and masculinity from actual gender.
It's not justifying shitty behaviour with gender. It's not defining traits differently just because your gender is different.
If a man comes across strong, he's a leader - a woman is usually "bossy". Woman cries in public? Something is wrong. Man cries in public? Oh boy. Let's insult him that he shouldn't act like a woman.

While feminity and masculinity tend to correlate with gender, they don't have to. And both feminity and masculinity traits are needed, they work together, with both strengths and weaknesses.
Feminism is about enabling people to be who they want, to do what they want - and not get discouraged or looked down upon for wanting something that's not usual for their gender.
It's, in its essence, a fight against discrimination due to your gender. Be it man or woman. Because let's face it, both sides have their shitty stuff to face, although admittedly woman have more of it currently. And anyone who thinks male privilege isn't currently a thing... Have fun in your illusion, dude.

Can this site´s forum please to being so cringy? Thx.

________________
I also read EU/US comics and am a librarian.
Manga-Masters, My ANN-Lists + Imdb

I agree. While the topic is legitimately good, these threads usually devolve into twitter-style virtue signaling after a few replies.

Hahaha Sure I'll stay more into manga topics. But your comments do completely kill the mood of my thread (not as if having different topics will kill you).

I mean it's true I could've put a better title for the thread . But I really think keeping some threads similar to the suggested manga polls alive would liven the forum up (Only one makes it each week but many are quite interesting).

I just wanted to know peoples opinion and stuff... 😛

It's just that lately I've been more into OELs /comic strips, memes... since I've read most of the manga I wanted to and I feel that even the most realist new manga and most Korean media, hits way off the mark. I think of the main reasons is the strangeness in relations between men and women /human thought. Thus the topic.

Twatter is a microblogging platform designed around people getting their 15 minutes of fame and then people moving onto the next shiny thing. The only thing it was ever really useful for is an RSS feed and quick source for headlines. Why do you think it was designed around 140 character posts? However the latter function was destroyed by 2016 (Because the company didn't like people expressing "incorrect opinions" ) while the former is still in the continual process of being altered (Because Jacky-boy doesn't want people to follow the people they want to follow, he wants you to follow people who will give him money or express his political views).

In addition to this, talking purely from a discussion standpoint, Twatter is an absolutely terrible site to use. Because each post can only be 140 characters (With the bump to 280 not really changing anything), people have to condense whatever it is that they are saying into a medium length sentence. While this may be well suited for quick back and forth discussions, it's absolutely terrible is your trying to have an actual discussion with depth. For example, up to the previous sentence, excluding text I quoted from your post because it would be a retweet and not count towards the character count, consists of 1111 characters. If we were having this discussion on Twatter, that would take up a total of 8 posts (Now four with the character limit increase) as of now, and it would be an absolute mess to read. Meanwhile, on sites and forums like this (Refering to MU, in this example), the site is designed around user posts being as easy to read, with as little clutter, as possible. In addition to this, the Twatter character limit creates a psychological style of debate that is extremely superficial. While I can post naturally (Here) and type my thoughts out exactly as I think them with the arguments to back it up, Twatter requires their users to frame their posts around one sentence "gotchas'", that are just back and forth discussions, with zero actually content, and all the points being appeals to authority since you cannot actually say what you mean to say.

Honestly, outside of advertisers and politicians, the only one who are really able to take advantage of Twatter are Asian countries like Japan. Their usage of symbols instead of Latin characters allows them to actually have a lengthy discussion without breaking the character limit, and the RSS style of the site greatly suits their need when it comes to using it as an image gallery to post porn on. And, to be quite honest, since the fall of Tumblr, the only thing Twatter IS useful for is just to find erotic images posted by your favorite hentai/doujin creator. But, that's also giving Twatter too much credit as, in response to the increasing limitations on posting erotica, the Nips made their own Twatter clone called Pawoo.

________________

I currently associate it with people that want the world to turn around them instead of them adapting to it (the perpetual victims), and the previously mentioned "Equal rights, but fuck the responsibilities" (I expect this and this and this to be brought to the table. What am I bringing? Lol, honey. Lol.). Unfortunately, some legitimate topics that still need to be addressed are buried under the woke's cries for virtue-signaling and "sadistic" (as in, at the very least on a subconscious level, they do it for the self-righteous pleasure they gain) fingerpointing.

It took me years of being around the woke, and hating every moment of it, for me to finally give up and stop thinking of myself as a feminist. The label's been corrupted, just like the right/conservative-label has been tainted by the crazies on the right. Ironically, those two groups that do nothing but hate everyone on the "other side" are psychologically far more similar than different.

Re: Male privilege. It's foolish for anyone to say it doesn't exist. But female privilege, in the fullest sense of the word, is most definitely real as well. If people weren't so damn concerned about the green grass on the other side, they might have time to look down and see their own green grass, not to mention realizing that the other lawn is also planted on a pile of manure. Then we could get somewhere. Or stay put, depending on if you're of the mindset that the pros/cons of either sex are biological traits that won't ever go away.

And about the cringe. Come on, dude. It's a manga-site. It attracts a certain crowd. It's always gonna get cringy, no matter what topic.