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4:58 pm, Sep 4 2021
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This week's look into the state of humanity was proposed by our member jacob66. How evil do you think drug companies are?

You can submit poll ideas here
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: If the person you most cared about committed a horrendous crime (e.g., murder, rape, etc), would you prefer they escape or be punished?
Choices:
Be punished - votes: 2643 (79.3%)
Escape - votes: 690 (20.7%)
There were 3333 total votes.
The poll ended: September 4th 2021

Lots of co-conspirators here

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I can already tell that this will be a fun poll. Can I propose that they will release the cure, but make requirements that you need "boosters" or need another medication to either (A) keep the cash flow going or (B) treat any of the "side-effects" (Which could or couldn't be intentional) of the cure?

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6:39 pm, Sep 4 2021
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Dunno…

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7:43 pm, Sep 4 2021
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Hell if I *know*, but I voted for Hide. There's no fucking way Big Pharma would ever do the right thing *if they could get away with an "evil" alternative that made money.*

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9:35 pm, Sep 4 2021
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Another loaded question.
I'll pass.

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10:17 pm, Sep 4 2021
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There is no such thing as a "cure for cancer", but if there were, they'd definitely release it. Odds are it would be priced astronomically high, though.

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10:37 pm, Sep 4 2021
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Of course they would release it. They couldn’t get away with hiding it even if they wanted to, since that would depend on everyone involved in development and testing being a terrible person, and that’s not a realistic scenario. As someone who is seizure-free because of a drug developed by GlaxoSmithKline, I do roll my eyes a bit at the ‘evil drug company’ narrative. I’m not going to say many of these companies haven’t done shitty things, but try getting sick, then complain about how awful these companies are for developing the meds you need.

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12:30 am, Sep 5 2021
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If you want to know the truth about Big Pharma just watch this video.

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I think they would probably release an adulterated formula at an outrageous price, without the patent so it doesn't expire. Since the cure would be high in demand whatever the price. They'd probably wait till they make the most money out of it instead of releasing it immediately.

I mean look at Zolgensma or the covid vaccine. One could eradicate a genetic desease but has an extremely high price, and in the other case they aren't even bothering in researching/releasing one that targets the dominant (delta¿?) variant and gives immunity against it .

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Of course they would release it. They couldn’t get away with hiding it even if they wanted to, since that would depend on everyone involved in development and testing being a terrible person, and that’s not a realistic scenario. As someone who is seizure-free because of a drug developed by GlaxoSmit ...


LOL they can obviously hide it, manufacturing equipment have outrageous prices and pharmaceutical workers research is owned by the company. Since judges aren't pharmaceutical experts they'd be trailed for revelation of secrets and unless the company wants it it wouldn't be released.At most they'd patent it.

Drugs are only released at a reasonable price if there is already alternative and there is profit to make by doing so.Otherwise many third world diseases would've been researched and even eradicated a long time ago.

All of this is the reasonable part ,they're considered evil for doing unethical experiments on third world countries to cut the corners when researching and seeking only profit (+speculating with prices) for example if they have the option of releasing a drug at 1million dollars that can potentially be bought only by 100 people a year or release it at a lower price so it can reach more people they'd still release at the highest price if the profit is the same. 😔

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Hide it, more money in treating disease than curing it as long as we are talking about an independent pharmaceutical company. Or monetize the whole thing out of the ass so that only affluent people can afford it with the 3rd world getting nothing.

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Quote from hkanz
Of course they would release it. They couldn’t get away with hiding it even if they wanted to, since that would depend on everyone involved in development and testing being a terrible person, and that’s not a realistic scenario. As someone who is seizure-free because of a drug developed by GlaxoSmit ...


Anyone who doesn't understand this needs to go work a corporate gig for a few weeks to get some perspective. As if people working corporate jobs care about their companies more than those flipping burgers, and are all evil and devilishly competent at keeping secrets.

Literally every single person who would work on this magical cure would tell their significant others about the cure weeks in advance.

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Anyone who doesn't understand this needs to go work a corporate gig for a few weeks to get some perspective. As if people working corporate jobs care about their companies more than those flipping burgers, and are all evil and devilishly competent at keeping secrets.

I have, and the issue has NOTHING to do with "keeping secrets". The issue is that NO ONE CARES. I worked for half a year for a company who handled my state's "Obamacare" program, and saw how much bullshit went on with the complete failure of a program it was designed to be, only for my co-workers and managers to be seeing the same thing I was and all still being in favor of the law. And, talking to some actual doctors outside of their offices, everything I had witnessed and experienced was only the tip of the iceberg.

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Well, first of all, Cancer isn't just one disease, it's many different ones with similar results (some cells going rogue in some way for some reason).

Some of those we can already prevent (or at least reduce the risk of getting them drastically), such as cervical cancer by getting the HPV vaccine.

Lastly, a cure for cancer would be way too good in terms of PR to keep secret. Even if it cost an arm and a leg, the prestige from its discovery would outweigh any bad PR there might come from an extortionate price. In addition, a lot of shareholders in corporate America are very focused on short-term gains. The announcement of a working cure for cancer would drive the share prices of the company through the roof, which those shareholders wouldn't be able to pass up on (even if it's just a short spike, by then a lot of them would have sold many of their shares for a lot more than they invested in them).

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According to this source the cure for cancer was found during the 1950s and the pharma industry had fought it ever since, mostly because the proposed cure cannot be monetized.

Which sounds about right.

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