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you knew fully well what I was saying when I said to avoid social media.
This is social media, by any definition.
I'm not "just arguing semantics" or twisting word. I'm just stating obvious fact …while you're saying no more than "nuh uh", and proving that you have no case, whatsoever.
I'll not waste my time with bother to respond to further pointless "nuh uh"s.
Why do you appear aggressive and sensitive?…
…and you then proceed to not even attempt
to answer the question, but just simply repeat the baseless accusation. To no ones surprise.
It has more to do with the duration
Ah. So you have low attention span, and refuse to get to any depth or nuance on any issue? (except programming, I suppose? Better than nothing, I suppose)
Again: Not surprising.
You're clearly fine with spending 30+ minutes on writing forum posts, though.
They are not oppressed though.
You are either lying, or wilfully ignorant.
If it's the latter, then I must say that I'm impressed at how you've been able to achieve it.
Hyperbole. I never said that.
It's exactly what you said, and you know it!
She is not a bigot
The video you linked to, is a video where she demonstrates that she is a bigot.
she was a woman that was domestically abused and she wants to protect safe spaces for women.
None of that is relevant, in any way. It is nothing more than an ad hominem fallacy.
UK recently shot down a controversial proposal of being able to "define you own gender on the fly" type thing.
I agree that, that would be going way too far …but that's beside the point.
It shows the rotten core that is the supporters, that they'd go after a woman that has brought joy to children and been domestically abused
Let's look at a part of my comment, that you chose to ignore:
"So because some people send her death threats, over her anti-trans bigotry, that means that any and all opposition to her statements are the same as sending her death threats?"
Not only did you have no way to defend your statement that paints all critics of JK Rowling as the same as the miniscule part who make death threats …but you repeat the same dishonest bullshit.
Even more clearly and eggregiously.
Oh, and you do realise that if we're going to use that standard…
There are plenty
of people on your side of the argument, who have not only made threats of violence/death/rape, but who have assaulted, killed and/or raped.
…and speaking of which, why not look at other things that you shy away from, and try to sweep under the rug, to hide the fact that you simply have no way to even attempt to justify what you've said (go back and check my comment, to see what I was replying to, where neccesary):
"He doesn't deny any of those groups. He doesn't make false and slanderous statements about them.
…and the "mocking" is just teasing. Not serious or meant to be taken as being in any way true or factual.
The statements about trans people, however…"
There are plenty of jokes about transgender people, that people don't get upset about.
"Jokes" that are about stating lies about trans people, and presenting them as fact, however… (many of those not actually being jokes at all, but simply being non-joke comments, that have some jokes around them, with the jokes not actually being about trans people)"
"That is a lie, as none of that has happened to any of them.
(well, they have gotten threats of violence, but all celebrities have that anyway. Especially those who voice an opinion on anything …regardless of which side of the issue they are, or what the issue is)"
"Feminist does not mean woman.
TERF is Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist.
Nothing about TERF, means that you are a woman.
…and regardless of whether it does or not: Dave Chappelle has stated, clearly and unambiguously, that he is a TERF."
"There are plenty of people who have gone through sex reassignment therapy.
As a result, they go from being physicall male, to being physicall female, or vice versa.
Granted, the process isn't perfect, but in all the ways that actually matter, it's mostly pretty effective.
No person can change their gender identity, their mental gender, however.
That is, and always will be, the gender that you were born with. (which, in the case of trans people, isn't the same as their physical sex. That is what makes them trans. Well, except transvestites. They just like to dress as the opposite sex. They shouldn't really be regarded as a sub-group of transgender, as their physical sex and gender identity perfectly align)"
"You are wasting a lot of your energy on it
…and how is it a "stupid issue", when it is about a group of people that are severely oppressed, discrinminated, assaulted, killed, driven to suicide…"
Yeah, the slaves should have just accepted their enslavement, with a duck water off back attitude…
As should the Jews have accepted their circumstances, in Nazi Germany…"
"No "victim" of "Cancel Culture", has been censored.
Not a single one.
So stop spreading your lies."
Ah, so you condemn people who are anti-fascist?
So do you promote tolerance/accceptance of fascism, or pro-fascism?
…and you do realise that antifa protestors are no more violent or problematic, than any other protestors? That most violence that has occured, during antifa protests, has either been caused by counter-protestors or police?
…and you do know, that it is a well established fact, that the vast majority of terrorism in the US and in Europe, is perpetrated not by islamists, ANTIFA, the left wing, BLM, or any other such group that you or Fox News would like to portray as the greatest threats
…but by right wing extremists! (and that's excluding islamist, even though they are all right wing extremists)
Heard of the bs that is critical race theory?
It isn't bullshit, and if I asked you to explain what it is, you wouldn't be able to answer.
You do realise that NO pupil/student learns about CRT, in K-12 education in the US, or anywhere else?
It's a college/university level, judicial subject, which looks into how laws can have racist outcomes, regardless of whether or not they have any racist intent.
What Fox "news" and others dishonestly try to indoctrinate conservatives to believe, however, is that it is teaching kids what racism is, and about how the US has done horrible racist things (these are undeniable historical facts)
…and that this, for some unexplained reason, would make them hate the US and white people.
Which, of course, it wouldn't. Why would it? It makes absolutely no sense.
Want to talk about indoctrination of kids?
How about the fact that they are all required to say the Pledge of Allegience, every school day? Like in a cult.
No other country (a few of the most cult-y fascistic ones aside), has anything that even remotely resembles that.
Or even a Pledge of Allegience, at all.
People have had their businesses targeted for not wanting to bake cakes
No, but people have been sued for refusing to bake cakes for gay people, despite being a cake shop, open for the public …and therefore having to bake cakes for everyone, including gays.
radio hosts fired for their personal views they never expressed on air
The problem with that being…?
Just because they didn't express it on air, doesn't mean that the listeners don't know them. A radio show has the choice of who to have on air, and thereby represents them
If they fired the guy who just takes care of the equipment, for comments he made outside of his job, that would be unacceptable, but…
the martial arts chick from Mandalorian was fired from the show because she did not list her pronouns when it is obvious she is a woman.
That isn't why she was fired, and you know it!
…and why would Disney want to be represented by, and be seen to promote, someone who is hated by the public, and therefore gives them huge bad PR, and would result in massive economic losses?
The right to free speech is enshrined in the constitution…
None of what you said, addresses what I said, much less answers it.
Well, you did say "Incitement of a crime usually need a specific example"
…but that is completely irrelevant to this discussion. (and also something I am fully aware of)
So you have a problem with inheriting stuff?
, but yes.
A bit of inheritance is fine, but after a certain amount there should be a significant inheritance tax. The tax rate should (much as income tax) increase, exponentially, the higher the taxed amount is …but be a lot higher than income tax.
The same needs to apply to gifts. (most gifts, given/recieved by normal people, would be of too low a value to be taxed, of course)
Of course I am living my stuff to my kids
…and under most systems of inheritance tax (including how I'd want it to be), they'd get to inherit it all.
and if they are smart they will do it in a way that avoids inheritance tax (theft).
Avoiding inheritance tax is theft.
Inheritance tax, is not.
What have your kids done, to earn
what you leave them?
Nothing. Nothing whatsoever.
What you leave them, doesn't rise to the level that would be taxed, anyway.
[quote]maybe you mean like JEff Bezos, getting rich while paying workers crap benefits,[quote]
Not just crap (if any) benefits, but also as low a wage as he can get away with, torturous and inhumane working condition etc etc
…all the while he pays practically no tax.
Despite benefiting from tax payer funded roads, schools (his employees need to have some level of education), healthcare (his employees need to be healthy) etc etc
…not to mention the money that Amazon and other of his companies, have recieved directly
from the government.
Still, it is a free market
No it isn't.
Not even close.
It's a market that is heavily stacked in favour of the rich and established.
Big companies get money, resources, laws changed in their favour, the ability to pay as much/little in tax as they want, getting practially no punishments for breaking the law… (meaning that they are, effectively, above the law)
I could go on.
[quote]nothing is stopping them making the next google,
You do realise that Google was funded by plenty of tax payer money, right?
Also, while I'm not sure if the founders were filhty rich, like Elon Musk was from birth, but they were far from poor.
People who actually go from rags to riches, are nearly non-existent.
Especially in the US, which has among the worst rates of social mobility. If you are born to poor parents, you'll almost certainly stay poor.
The notion that you can succeed, if you just work hard, is no more than a myth.
The hardest working people, are poor and unable to get ahead.
The richest people don't work hard at all.
In Hong Kong…
You seriously just ignored what I pointed out about China, and just repeat your ignorant nonsense?
China is not a socialist country, but it is a communist one.
I have already pointed out how it is neither.
It is a far-right wing fascistic state.
Pretty much a dictatorship.
One man owning everything, isn't communism.
Damn, Berserk would never get released if they banned those
Berserk NEVER promotes or condones those things.
those things, sure, but they are always presented as bad/horrible.
Nothing I've said comes anywhere close to even hinting
at the notion that they shouldn't be portrayed.
Quite the contrary.
So why are you acting as if I did?
Nah dude, variant covers aint a different issue
I never addressed variant covers, or even bothered to find out what that is. (I'm guessing
it's just literal, as in just different covers, on the same issue of the same comic?)
I actually gotta agree with you there on a lot of that. Man, I hate that type of culture, it is so lame. I'd be ashamed of my son if they were 16-18 and could not lift 20kg and was scared of any exercise
WTF are you talking about?
I never mentioned physical strength, nor do I think you've got to be particularly strong.
the parents coddle their kids too much
I agree that a lot of parents, especially in the US, coddle their kids too much (though US parents seem to be too strict, in some areas)
…but I'm pretty sure that we have very differing views on what is or isn't coddling, and how much is too much.
but a lot of them have mental disorders.
Not in any way that is relevant to this discussion.
Some are LGBT (which has a higher rate of mental disorders than normal people)
The higher rate of mental disorders, is due to the discrimination that they suffer from. (though in the case of trans people, it's probably also due to the issue of being in a body that doesn't fit your gender)
but a lot are just outcasts of the system.
Some of whom? (BTW, the fact that you skip having quotes of what you reply, in your replies, makes you comment confusing and bothersome to understand) If we're talking about the pathetic otaku, who are the main demographic of anime studios, they are outcasts due to being the terrible way that they are.
Well, granted, they may have fallen into social circles that taught them to be that way, due to being outcast everywhere else…
but they were child sized
Yeah, the weird sexual fascination young teenage girls (the later of which is okay, among teenagers
, but I'm clearly talking about adults, well removed from their teens here) and, far worse, lolis… I mean, I get that there'd be some, but the fact that it is pretty much mainstream…
I read some other stuff by other people cause I am open
I doubt that.
but I am not interested in a story with an agenda
Agenda or not, all narratives has politics.
(BTW, I dislike it, when something is clearly shoehorned/forced in. Even if it is a moral/political message that I agree with. It feels forced and awkward, and distracts from the story. [also a complaint against pretty much all fanservice] It should simply be a natural bit of the narrative)
was that bigoted, or does that not serve your needs to claim that I am a bigot?
"I liked this work that is woke, so therefore I can't be bigoted", is pretty much like the old "I can't be racist, I have a black friend" line.
You liking that work, doesn't erase the rest of your views, or what you've said about trans people.
Granted, it means that you don't completely
works that are inclusive, as being garbarge …but that isn't much, and it doesn't show that you don't still dismiss a lot of works as garbage, due to their being too woke for your liking, or otherwise disagreeing with your politics.
Also, I'd like to point out that The Prince and the Dressmaker is completely and fundamentally about being trans. The whole thing is about it. (what kind of trans, I can't know without reading it)
you liking it, whilst complaining about works having agendas plastered all over, shoehorned, and pushed down your throat…
I just don't want an agenda pushed down my throat
Mm, because people who are different, just existing and wanting to be treated like human beings, is them pushing it down your throught…
Oh, and who forced you to read those books/comics, exactly?
weird for a leftist comic since it "Slut shamed" Starfire at various points.
I haven't read it, but…
1. Does it slutshame Starfire? …or the MEN who draw/write her, and decide how she looks and behaves, and what she says?
2. There are people on the left who are prudish, and people who are a bit too loose about sexual matters. The left isn't a monolith.
Does that mean their bias has to be plastered across the art form they have control over?
Also, "not being bigoted" is hardly something you'd call a "bias".
If they like, but they are going to alienate people, and likely make a bad story.
No, and no.