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I already told you what I was pertaining to. Yawn.
What are you refering to, here?
you accused transdude of being a troll
That is a well established fact. (you may note that I have not responded to, or indeed read, any of his comments here)
Oh, it is an attention span issue now is it?
It was never not an attention span issue.
You can't summarize your points…
Complex and/or nuanced issues, require more words than a haiku.
Deal with it.
Yes, I totally take 30 minutes to type a response haha. Dude, nobody in my class typed at such a snail pace.
Ah yes, I forget that you don't actually bother to spend any time with understanding what you read, or thinking through anything you write, so naturally you don't take a lot of time, to write a long reply to a long text…
Transgender are not oppressed because you just freely admitted earlier that they can not change their sex
No I never did that. I said the exact opposite. As you know.
they just make believe they are whatever sex
You have demonstrated before, that you are aware of the distincition between sex ang gender, to here you are clearly, knowingly, and intentionally, lying.
they want to be at any given point.
You know full well, that transgender people don't go around constantly change what they identify as, so that is, again, a lie.
"Mental gender", thanks, you have agreed transgender do not exist unless somebody voluntarily chooses to be one.
Ones "mental gender" (more commonly "gender identity", but I wrote it like that to distinguish mental vs physical) is just as physical/biological as ones physical gender. It is a physical aspect of ones brain, that is permanent and unchangable.
The only reason to talk of it separately from "physical"/"body", even though it is physical and part of the body, is that one usually talks of the brain and the rest of the body, separately …as that is, in many cases, a practical and useful distinction. (even if the terms used, are a bit inaccurate …and, to ignorant fools, a bit misleading)
Forming a category that anybody cna join at any time with no prerequisites is funny
Trans is a category that only trans people can join, and it has clear prerequisites.
insisting that the perfectly voluntary group is oppressed
Yeah, because people always love to be part of an ostracized group…
…and how do you choose
to be born
a particular way?
Good to know, a trans…
None of what you said, in any way addressed what I said. You realised that you had no countre-argument, and just ran away from the argument with your tail between your legs, and instead try to distract from it, like a coward.
When are you going to show any kind of ability or willingness for actual honest debate?
Rather than this dishonest and cowardly nonsense?
I already told you I never watched Dave Chapelle
You are the one who made claims about Dave Chapelle. (hell, you are the one who first mentioned him!) Claims that you have not defended against contrary evidence or arguments, nor have you admited that you were, or even that you may be, wrong or mistaken.
…because you know you have no case, but you have to fragile an ego to admit when you're wrong.
…and if you're so ignorant about Chapelle, on what basis do you justify your strong claims about him?
Why would I trust your account of DC
Why do you trust some random youtuber's account of him?
when you label everybody a bigot?
Just because I labeled a couple few people you like as bigots, that means I label everyone
…and I'm untrustworthy, because you don't like my conclusions?
You don't point to my argument, reasoning, or evidence, but instead that you don't like my conclusions? You wouldn't like me to be right, therefore I must be wrong?
So you don't follow the evidence where it leads, you chose where to go, and then chose what evidence to accept, that allows you to go there.
See, you just admitted it is voluntary.
"No person can change their gender identity" is a clear statement of saying that it isn't voluntary.
This is a clear lie.
Sure, Paris police officers check your bags twice when entering a mall, cinema etc because.. oh right, not Islamic extremists. It was all "right wing bigots", right? Good to know.
I note that you don't cite any terrorism statistics
…because they show that I'm correct.
Instead, you focus on things like what laws/regulations are done, or media coverage …which are irrelevant.
The media often disproportionally cover stuff, and political descisions are often bullshit based on bullshit.
The terrorism stats, however, are pure and simple fact.
I don't watch Fox news. First time I heard of CRT was on America Uncovered
Ah, so you listen to more niche rutinely dishonest far-right extremists. Not the more mainstream rutinely dishonest far-right extremists?
That is a difference without a distinction.
it is about making kids racist.
Why segregate them based on skin colour
You guys do that. Not the ones you're railing against
why talk about supposed colour privileges
Because they are facts, and they have a severe impact.
we don't need a dedicated thing encouraging it.
We do need dedicated education about it, on how it is bad, and how to avoid it
…which is the exact thing that you are condemning.
None of which, has anything to do with CRT which, again, is a college/university level law subject.
but not religious freedoms or personal choices when to provide a service?
I am all for religious freedom, but not religious privileges!
You don't get to say that you're above the law, or that you can chose what laws to obey or not, based on your religion!
That would violate
Freedom of Religon! (and violate the 1st Amendment)
Religions and believers must never be discriminated against …or in favour of.
If you have a bakery, where you bake cakes for the public, then you have to bake cakes for the public. If you can't do that, due to your religious convitction: Get a different job!
Maybe that's why you dislike Jews so much, because they are religious.
Aside from your dishonest claim that I dislike Jews…
You do realise that there are plenty of Jews who don't believe in Judaism, right? …or who are atheists?
Jews are an ethnic group. Not a religious one.
Die Gedanken sind frei/My thoughts are free.
I don't see why you felt the need to write that in two languages, but…
Those were not thoughts.
They were words.
…and they meant that the radio station condone, or at least accept, his opinions, if they continue to let him be their voice. Let him represent them.
What you are saying, in effect, is that people who have a platform/event, MUST invite people they strongly oppose. That they MUST actively pay, fund, support, promote, celebrate, people they strongly oppose, want nothing to do with, and find utterly disgusting.
You are arguing for Forced
Speech, and against Free Speech.
She was harassed by people to put her pronouns up
Repeating the lie that, that was the only thing she did, doesn't make it any more true.
Hahaha. seriously man, what did they do to earn it? You don't have children at all, do you?
Again, you realise that you have no arguments against my words, that you have no case, so you instead try to distract from it, by trying to attack me …and it's a pitiful attempt, at an attack.
It is a parent's responsibility to provide a better future for their kids.
It is a parent's responsibility to protect, care, teach (not indoctrinate), and guide (not decide for them, what they must be/do …beyond making sure they don't do anything too dangerous/immoral/idiotic) their kids, to ensure that they become proper independent adults.
After that, it's up to them to take care of themselves.
Naturally, it is good to still help and support them, beyond that, but…
They have to earn their own wealth and position. Not be given it, completely unearned.
If what they can manage to make for themselves, is far too bad, then either you've done a shit job as a parent, or you're in a disfunctional country.
Maybe your family just think they can be poor and have unlimited kids and wait for the state to pick up the problem
Families in countries with strong welfare and social safety nets, especially among those who are better off, have fewer kids.
It's in disfunctional and chaotic countries, with extreme poverty, where you find that people have tons of kids.
yet I bet you are a consumer.
Everyone is a consumer.
Regardless of how much they work and/or earn, or how rich/poor they are.
Otherwise you die.
Or are you claiming that you don't eat or drink?
So now you are claiming that these things exist in an isolation bubble.
What I said, was the exact opposite of that.
If Amazon did not exist they'd be no roads or schools?
Are you insane?
I kinds said the opposite (well, not exactly, but…)
You know there are things such as unions
Where I live? Yes …though they're far from perfect, imnipotent, or completely sufficient.
In the US? HELL NO! There are a rare few, very weak, unions, with very little power (except police unions, who are corrupt, criminal, and far overpowered)
and if they don't feel satisfied, they can move on.
No they can't.
Some can, but a very large proportion of the US population does not have that option.
Is that why they had to run themselves into debt with their credit cards?
Google run themselves into debt with their credit cards? WTF are you talking about?
General Motors gets bailed out etc, you know why? Cause the currency needs to be backed up by goods nd services
That does not follow.
1. I thought you believed in the Free Market! If GM fails, they should be allowed to fail, according to the Free Market!
2. GM are not the one and only source of goods and services!
3. If they are so vitally important, that they are too important to fail, then the owners should be allowed to fail, and government should simply (temporarily) take the company, and find some responsible people to sell it to.
(and in the case of, e.g., the companies who were responsible for the 2008 financial crash, due to wildly illegal practices, should have all responsible people put in jail …in addition to the steps I mentioned above. Well, except that there is no valid reason, for allowing any banks to be in private hands, anyway. they should all be nationalized)
like your friends in Chicago had.
Since when do I have any friends, in the US?
Who is this one man you speak of, Xi? Xi owns everything in China? :3
Xi doesn't own everything in China.
everything in China.
He rules over China.
So give us an example of something that has PROMOTED it. Not just arbitrarily come up with stuff.
You think I made that claim, without having examples to back it up?
To cite a few examples, off the top of my head…
Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi and Tate no Yuusha are guilty of pretty much all of what I listed, aside from zealous nationalism, historical revisionism, and racism.
They're both seriously fucked up.
When it comes to zealous nationalism and historical revisionism, it's works that I haven't read or watched myself. (and why would I?)
Titles such as Manga Kenkanryu.
Also, the first Japanese feature-length animated film, "Momotarou: Umi no Shinpei" was, aside from generally being a very crap and incoherent movie, essentially wartime propaganda. (I watched it due to it's historical value …and almost fell asleep, in parts)
Oh, and I note that I forgot to include paedophilia!
Tate no Yuusha is massively guilty of that, and there are tons of other examples, but… You've already agreed that there are. (note that many isekai, have a person be reborn in the other world. In those cases, they tend to be 20-30 years older than they look, than their isekai-body, older than they have been in that world …and yet they tend to get into relationsships with children that are about the same age as their bodies. So, e.g., a seemingly 15 year old, who is actually a middle aged man, dating/fucking a 14 year old)
No need to remember, or look for, any more examples, of course.
All I need to show, is that examples exist.
Which I have.
Why would I care if they have partners then either?
Because that actually does
Well, if they have no interest in getting a partner, that's fine, but being utterly incapable of getting one, or (far worse) not being able to get a partner or even a friend of the opposite sex, due to not treating them as human being…
It is called having an active lifestyle and getting your kid outside so they are physically fit and socialize.
You don't need to do any weight lifting, to have basic decent health.
…and it is completely irrelevant, to the issue of socializing.
You have still failed to show why you said "I'd be ashamed of my son if they were 16-18 and could not lift 20kg and was scared of any exercise", and how that makes any sense.
you don't have kids from what I gathered
A baseless assumption.
One you have, quite nonsensically and irrationally, arrived at purely because we have differing views on inheritance.
you yourself proved that when you said that jokes about this new category are offlimits.
I've already covered how trans jokes aren't off limits.
Again, you're just lying.
Forced? I don't live in Zarlan-land where everybody is forced to do what he says because he says so.
Then you admit that you were lying
, when you said that it was being pushed down your throat?
Self insert by the author claims she is just wearing skimpy clothes to attract guys or w/e
1. How is that slutshaming? Are you saying that it is wrong, for women to wear skimpy clothing, with the intent to attract guys? Would that not make you
the one who is slutshaming?
2. Again: Starfires choices, are not the free voluntary choices of a woman. They are choices of the MEN who write/draw her.
Yes, as evidenced by you and your apathy to JK Rowling…
That paragraph is completely incoherent.
I'd tell you a figure of speech about attracting more flies with honey
…says the guy who is all vinegar? Who has repeatedly insulted and slandered me, lied about what I've said, and done several other offensive things?
Also, just because it's a saying, doesn't mean it's true.
That's why you are angry
I'm not angry.
I don't get emotional about the nonsense you're spouting. Aside from how I try to be calm and objective… I've long since grown numb to the kind of nonsense, that you're spouting.
…and again, you've ignored a bunch of things (I'll not provide a list again, unless you actually start to answer them. It's not like you can't check yourself. Once you've started, I can point out any you've missed), trying to distract from them and sweep them under the rug, because you know that, in an honest
debate, you would be proven to be utterly wrong, irrational, and immoral.
That's why you constantly lie about my argument, and/or try to distract attention away from them.
The fact that you feel that you have to stoop so low, have to resort to such cowardly and dishonest tactics…
That proves that you already know, deep down, that you can't make valid arguments for your positions.
That you know, you have no case.
Now how about you get a dose of integrity and/or self-respect, and start being honest?
If not, if you just continue to be more and more dishonest (you started out being at least partially
honest, but…), then I see no point in wasting any more time on you.