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What do you think about atheism?
Everyone should be an atheist. Religion is just keeping us down as an intellectual species.
I am an atheist, but not a fanatic. I don't try to persuade other people. I respect religion, and the people that follow it.
I'm not an atheist, but I respect atheism or whatever way of life you may have.
I'm not a fan of atheism. I truly believe there's a higher spiritual being around. Sounds a lot better than the universe coming into existence out of sheer luck.
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So, any thoughts?

In my opinion, atheists can be just as worse as religious zealots. roll eyes Atheists deny the existence of a god just as strong as religious people accept the existence of a god.

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Nope, don't need any religion here.
I don't need Walmart give away cards either.
I personally don't like religions or isms.
They make my life harder. It's a lot easier
to make people do what I want them to do
when their mind is not filled with something
that retards my plans! D8<

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Are we allowed to make controversial topics now? laugh

...I'm thoroughly agnostic. It's more rational than atheism IMO- as long as there is any measure of uncertainty, and even the most staunch of atheists will admit there are limitations to the understanding that can currently be created through modern physics, provided they understand it, anyway. However, I remain exceedingly unconvinced by all religion as well, which often has even less logical proof.

And yes, atheism is a belief structure, so in that way it is essentially similar to a religion. It's a doctrine of disbelief, even if it fails to provide further guidance on how to live one's life.

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Are we allowed to make controversial topics now? laugh

It's on probationary status, so you can make them now, but if that degenerates to flame wars then we won't allow them again...


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And yes, atheism is a belief structure, so in that way it is essentially similar to a religion. It's a doctrine of disbelief, even if it fails to provide further guidance on how to live one's life.

What about those that just don't give a fuck?
Are all humans destined to be stigmatized
with religion and spiritual belief systems
and are all Eastern Chimpanzees atheists too?
What about babies? Both being able to think.

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And yes, atheism is a belief structure, so in that way it is essentially similar to a religion. It's a doctrine of disbelief, even if it fails to provide further guidance on how to live one's life.

What about those that just don't give a fuck?
Are all humans destined to be stigmatized
with religion and are all Eastern Chimpanzees
atheists too?


Technically that's passive agnosticism. Not knowing or not caring, anyway. An aggressive agnostic would assert that it is impossible to know one way or the other.

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And yes, atheism is a belief structure, so in that way it is essentially similar to a religion. It's a doctrine of disbelief, even if it fails to provide further guidance on how to live one's life.

What about those that just don't give a fuck?
Are all humans destined to be stigmatized
with religion and are all Eastern Chimpanzees
atheists too?


Technically that's passive agnosticism. Not knowing or not caring, anyway. An aggressive agnostic would assert that it is impossible to know one way or the other.

What the hell, now animals have isms too,
although being such savages and Philistines? laugh

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Quote from Crenshinibon
And yes, atheism is a belief structure, so in that way it is essentially similar to a religion. It's a doctrine of disbelief, even if it fails to provide further guidance on how to live one's life.

What about those that just don't give a fuck?
Are all humans destined to be stigmatized
with religion and are all Eastern Chimpanzees
atheists too?


Technically that's passive agnosticism. Not knowing or not caring, anyway. An aggressive agnostic would assert that it is impossible to know one way or the other.

What the hell, now animals have isms too,
although being such savages and Philistines? laugh


Yes, well..

Ah, sorry, I mixed myself up again. It's just nontheism. Still an ism, though... the weak agnostics assert that knowing is possible but they don't.

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And yes, atheism is a belief structure, so in that way it is essentially similar to a religion. It's a doctrine of disbelief, even if it fails to provide further guidance on how to live one's life.

What about those that just don't give a fuck?
Are all humans destined to be stigmatized
with religion and are all Eastern Chimpanzees
atheists too?


Technically that's passive agnosticism. Not knowing or not caring, anyway. An aggressive agnostic would assert that it is impossible to know one way or the other.

What the hell, now animals have isms too,
although being such savages and Philistines? laugh


Yes, well..

Ah, sorry, I mixed myself up again. It's just nontheism. Still an ism, though... the weak agnostics assert that knowing is possible but they don't.


As far as I can tell, that ism is not living in them,
but in the opposition. That would just be other people
seeking targets for labelling.

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Quote from Crenshinibon
Are we allowed to make controversial topics now? laugh

...I'm thoroughly agnostic. It's more rational than atheism IMO- as long as there is any measure of uncertainty, and even the most staunch of atheists will admit there are limitations to the understanding that can currently be created through modern physics, provided they understand it, anyway. However, I remain exceedingly unconvinced by all religion as well, which often has even less logical proof.

And yes, atheism is a belief structure, so in that way it is essentially similar to a religion. It's a doctrine of disbelief, even if it fails to provide further guidance on how to live one's life.


So the disbelief in santa is a belief structure? Or faeries or unicorns or anything that we have no evidence for?

The most rational stand to take is to disbelieve something until proven otherwise, otherwise we would have all kinds of crazy beliefs. Null hypothesis.

Every rational atheist is agnostic atheist, ín the same way we are agnostic towards faeries, pixies, unicorns etc.

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Now that Cren and I have debated this,
the thread is over.

Sincerely yours, Cren and Mams.

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There are no atheists in foxholes, crashing planes,etc. Even the atheists remember God and pray to him at that time (of course not everyone of them...but there certainly are "atheists" who do that). IMP they betray their own belief.
Oh and those of you who are atheists should stop using the word "omg". It's not right for an atheist to use that word, isn't it?
I don't like people who betray their own beliefs.

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Well it doesn't really matter to me because even if god was real I still wouldn't love him. As it seems he just bored with the human race. Like when you create a S.I.M's character it fun to play with but eventually you get bored with it

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There are no atheists in foxholes, crashing planes,etc.

There are only pagans and people with a steady belief
system in those, as the people who suddenly need something
to look over themselves and have no experience when it comes
to true believing will browse every possible god and goddess
if they do not believe in any of them.

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Quote from bking
There are no atheists in foxholes, crashing planes,etc. Even the atheists remember God and pray to him at that time (of course not everyone of them...but there certainly are "atheists" who do that). IMP they betray their own belief.
Oh and those of you who are atheists should stop using the word "omg". It's not right for an atheist to use that word, isn't it?
I don't like people who betray their own beliefs.


In a desperate situation i for one wouldnt clasp my hands in prayer rather than actually trying to do something useful which might help me survive. I dont really see the difference between praying to god or the FSM.

"Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer"

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