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アメリカ人です 。あなたのもと み先生のアイン 見目増した。本 当にかっこいし ました。あの・ ・・あたしはも んだいですよ。 いいですか? もとみ先生は男 や女ですか? あなたは先生見 目増した、です よね? それか は私の友達は戦 いです。助けて お願いします。
Posting that reply to the Japanese source.
It's rudimentary Japanese so it should be good enough to get the point across. If you have objections. You can address them. But the pictures of the autograph and the account seem legit.
I should note that I dispute your source because.. Let's put it this way, I can post a link to a website in Chinese, which I know you don't read, state that some person on there said something or other, and then should I really expect you to believe me because I say he's my friend and many people have met them in person? This would make this a third source rather than a primary source, where say, he comes on and vouches for himself that it's true in English so that his own reputation is on the line.
Do you get what I'm saying? It's not a matter of if he's a good person or not, it's a matter of questioning your sources even if you generally trust them. Books make errors, people lie, it's just a part of humanity to make huge errors and mistakes, and since the lock was put onto the profile based on your post alone which was linked, and I found it dubious, I decided to find a primary source. It's not a matter of mistrusting the admins so much, as questioning their source which was you quoting a website that the admin could not read or verify... which is just odd at best.
Since there was a post before yours that claimed to a primary source, i.e. signing where a person saw them, this causes a dispute, and I'd simply like to sort it out with another primary source. I hope that makes it clear.
This isn't saying anything about you, but I've seen people actually fall for the "It's in another language you can't read so believe me" crap. But since I can read that other language, I track it own and find that the person quoting it was making up things and the people believing it are simply suckers who just believe the person translating for the sake of it. So, please don't take the suspicion personally, but as a matter of course to verify the facts and make sure they line up and all disputes are resolved. Better?
BTW, the head shaking is for the suckers that don't question anything in their lives and the facts they are given. But if you don't question then how do you learn, grow, and actually know that the reality you think is real is true? And I did question Stuart Levy, CEO of Tokyopop... so you know I'm gutsy to question sources. (It was over a con suspicion...)
アメリカ人です 。あなたのもと み先生のアイン 見目増した。本 当にかっこいし ました。あの・ ・・あたしはも んだいですよ。 いいですか? もとみ先生は男 や女ですか? あなたは先生見 目増した、です よね? それか は私の友達は戦 いです。助けて お願いします。
Posting that reply to the Japanese source.
It's rudimentary Japanese so it should be good enough to get the point across. If you have objections. You can address them. But the pictures of the autograph and the account seem legit.
I should note that I dispute your source because.. Let's put it this way, I can post a link to a website in Chinese, which I know you don't read, state that some person on there said something or other, and then should I really expect you to believe me because I say he's my friend and many people have met them in person? This would make this a third source rather than a primary source, where say, he comes on and vouches for himself that it's true in English so that his own reputation is on the line.
Do you get what I'm saying? It's not a matter of if he's a good person or not, it's a matter of questioning your sources even if you generally trust them. Books make errors, people lie, it's just a part of humanity to make huge errors and mistakes, and since the lock was put onto the profile based on your post alone which was linked, and I found it dubious, I decided to find a primary source. It's not a matter of mistrusting the admins so much, as questioning their source which was you quoting a website that the admin could not read or verify... which is just odd at best.
Since there was a post before yours that claimed to a primary source, i.e. signing where a person saw them, this causes a dispute, and I'd simply like to sort it out with another primary source. I hope that makes it clear.
This isn't saying anything about you, but I've seen people actually fall for the "It's in another language you can't read so believe me" crap. But since I can read that other language, I track it own and find that the person quoting it was making up things and the people believing it are simply suckers who just believe the person translating for the sake of it. So, please don't take the suspicion personally, but as a matter of course to verify the facts and make sure they line up and all disputes are resolved. Better?
BTW, the head shaking is for the suckers that don't question anything in their lives and the facts they are given. But if you don't question then how do you learn, grow, and actually know that the reality you think is real is true? And I did question Stuart Levy, CEO of Tokyopop... so you know I'm gutsy to question sources. (It was over a con suspicion...)
I have no objections I can made, as I can't read Japanese and there's no translation provided. Unlike Italian, running free online tl programs on Japanese sentences especially can lead to a bunch of jibberish, as the language structure for starters is completely different than the one of western languages.
But if you say you can get the point across, then I'll believe you .
I'm all for being thorough and gutsy - some of my colleagues can be pretty confrontational and gutsy at anime&manga cons here in Italy when the chief figures in the publishing world are less than accurate and honest. Also because some of the mods here do work in the Italian publishing world, they are insiders and know the gossipy mean details - and I'm very curious to know the reply of the Japanese fan source at this point XD.
About me reporting and translating from my native language (duh) verbatim the info given by the official Italian publisher themselves - who also happen to be Japanese culture experts and related culture essays writers -, how is this per se a less reliable - or more understandable - source than a Japanese fan-only post, btw? We'll have to agree to disagree on this.
I believe it was not your intention, but it sounds you're disbelieving and sort of pulling source rank because we're not English or not official enough. Well, Posocco is one of the top figures in his publishing house&work environment and works side-by-side with the Japanese when it's contract time.. About the language... well, sorry to be born and speaking in a non-English country XD, but at least among the site admins and mod there are people that can speak English and other languages. And that's why I could provide you with the English translation of my obscure and not widely known Italian, as I speak non rudimentary English and Italian.
Ditto on M-U admins, you are assuming they can speak English only and that they couldn't ask someone relieble to tl from Italian or whatever language if need be? See, that was the impression I got even if it was not purpose on your part.
Anyway, a useful piece for info for us both has been provided by CowboyEd , just before your latest post. The US publishers as well state Motomi is female in the jackets of the Beast Master English volumes.
So, it seems we have two publishers, one being in English language (VIZ), telling us the same thing: Motomi is female, or at the very least that's the official truth about the fact . A tip: even if Motomi was male, that's not what her Japanese publishers and possibly the author might wish to confirm. <--- marketing strategies
Feel free to uncover the TRUTH and good luck ^^. I'll comment on the matter no more, as I'm ultimately interested in her/his manga being good and worth mine or other people's time .
If you achieve the truth, power to you.
EDIT: Deda's recent comment at the bottom of the previous page might be of interest to you . Looks like the photoproof you crave is available on Betsucomi this month.
*huggles Deda darling for the info*
Last edited by elianthos at 2:29 am, May 26 2010
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