LOL at number 3.
I really agree...one of the reasons i dont watch/read naruto anymore. got too annoying...
yeah naruto's like sasuke. he's like gaara. oh wait, he's like...-rambles on and on- i mean cmon! he might as well be related to everybody!
"oh no! i cant harm this rock! we're alike! it doesn't have parents or friends...just like i used to be..."
-rolls eyes-

The worst shounen cliche (that really, really annoys the hell out of me) is the best friend/ally betrayal. There's always some resonance of bromance in shounen manga that really irks me. It's like they're all going; "I loved you man! You were my bro! Why did you do this?!"
It's so angsty and unnecessary. It will always happen at some point and (usually) the friend and/or ally is suddenly and unbelievably going on his evil way for a good cause and will most certainly be forgiven. Hello! He's a *beep**beep*! Forget him!

The "I'm the best, I can do everything" attitude so many main characters have.

Also the way they are always attractive and girls always like them.

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The one thing that really doesn't make sense to me, is the fact that the character screams out their attack name, and then explain what the hell it does to the enemy. Like someone else said before, shouldn't they want to surprise the enemy? If it's in tankouban/volume format, than I believe they should just have an explanation there about what the hell it does, rather than waste ex number of pages explaining it.

Also, the "if I have the motivation and support, I can do it!! Just believe in me!" is really annoying. I know they're just stories, but realistically that would never work, sadly. It does require some motivation, but if that was the only thing, then the world would be ex-times better and a much nicer place.

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That also is what happens in like what, every other shounen? Like Naruto, there's the Sasuka and Naruto thing going. I mean, what are they, gay for each other or something? I don't believe people who were best friends before would go that far for someone, unless there was something else going on. [like lol, a secret love]

lol! i'm glad some one said it

good guy is weak. good guy gets stronger, pwns bad guys. the end. soooo cliche.

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1. Uber powerful enemy that has been waiting for revenge for ten years. The protagonist is 14 and is useless, but as long as he trains in the mountains for a month and tries his hardest, he will beat the enemy.
2. Tournaments
3. There is always a girl somewhere in the manga that has boobs bigger than her head.
4. The new enemies are always just a tiny bit more powerful than the protagonist, to the point that they can put the main character on the brink of death. But the enemy is always announced as 3 times more powerful than the protagonist. Then the main character rests for a day, trains for a month, and then just barely defeats him.
5. This is seinen, but it still annoyed me. In Blade of the Immortal:

Wow I have a few that no one seems to mention, I guess because even though they are cliche's, people enjoy them? Well I for one hate these.

1) Older Brother/Little Sister relationship: Almost every single manga/anime has an older brother, little sister, somewhere in the mix. With the older brother always wanting to protect the little sister, even from a flea landing on her wrist. He would say "Stay away from my little sister, I must protect her!" And usually the little sister clings to the older brother like a baby koala. Same gender siblings are seldom seen and older sister/little brother relationships are frankly non existant nowadays.

2) The moe madness. Yes, I cannot stand seeing these 8-12 year girls always, and I mean always making some sort of an appearance as either a side character or cameo. I truly got on my nerves when it effected my second favorite series Fairy Tell, that until recently did not have a 8 year old girl coming in, having this massive power. So I say, "Say no to 8 year old girls!"

3) I have go against others and say I personally dislike the loud mouth, brash characters. I hate how the male lead characters aren't suppose to talk about their feelings or, OMG, be sad. Let a tear drop and people will be asking to have his man sac remove. That's why I like Kira Yamato so much, one of my favorite pilots of all time. Because unlike most manga characters out there, he actually has...well emotions.

So yeah, those are the three I hate. But since 2 out of the 3 are seen in almost all manga/anime, it's hard to escape it.

Interesting that I've found a unique shounen (actually a light novel, but the demographic is shounen) that has:

- emotional male lead who talks about his feelings, even cries all the time (but not the annoying type)
- close older sister and younger brother relationship (between the female lead and her cousin)

That is "Bungaku Shoujo" to Shi ni Tagari no Douke (Novel) . The first volume of the manga adaptation looks quite good, and not like the usual shounen manga.

Huh? Maybe it's in the novel cause I just read the 3 chapters available on manga fox and there wasn't a cousin showing up at all. Are you sure that's the correct manga you are talking about?

Yep, correct. I read the novel.

I see cliches left and right; up and down; and side to side, and I still tend to read a majority of manga only when they interest me with those cliches.

The part about the hero not killing bad guys may be an absolute annoyance, but its true. If you think you can kill someone just because he is evil, then anyone can kill just because of that. I never killed, but i do get thoughts of wanting to erase that person's existence, because he is a menace to society. The justice system is created to set an example for normal people like us. God's laws are simple, but they make sense, yet people are acting desperate, all because America is running out of money.( My mom's friend was robbed of the things in her car). This cliche of not killing is reasonable, so don't expect the main character to kill his enemies every time he thinks what he is doing is right, only anti-heros have that privilege. The same goes for characters who is in a war.


Forgive me if I'm ranting, I guess even if I'm not so faithful to the Lord anymore, my Christian blood kicks in from time to time. There are several cliches out there that irritates me as well, but it would seems in this post, there all that applies.



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1. Adverage looking, glasses wearing, weak, no special traits, prideless male protagonist.

2. Crybaby protagonist.

3. Hotblooded, idiot, unlocked potential protagonist.

4. The famous i wont kill anyone protagonist.

as you can see, i pretty much hate most of the shonen/seinen male protagonists, although, i still tend to read them

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I'm not really sure if this is the manga you're talking about, but Hunter x Hunter surely made fun of that. I think that it's the only manga in which the characters don't scream out stupid names of their attack, (well, except for Gon of course, who still kept saying the name of the attack even though Killua told him that the villain would kill him before he even finished saying it). Correct me if I'm wrong.



I think Hunter x Hunter also is the only manga I know where the main character doesn't have a love interest. Correct me if I'm wrong again, I've only watched the anime, so I don't really know. Do they develop love interests in the latest chapters? I doubt it.


And I think it has already been mentioned, but the cliche I hate the most is the usual weak-looking main characters who--no matter how weak they are--defeat the all-so powerful villain, because he sees his friends getting hurt and awakening his 'special power hidden inside.'

Oh, and don't forget the speeches! ALWAYS, during the fight, the opponents would talk endlessly about this and that, and it really gets annoying sometimes. And before they finish off someone, they would always say stuff first, I mean, why can't you just finish off the guy and be done with it? And before the guy gets killed, he would always have this touching speech, about his past, which led him to be on the 'dark side.'

Can't they have something more original for once?

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I hate these the most, mostly because they barely have any character development, and they always act the same throughout the entire story instead of trying to change all of that.

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the hero is defeated, and then strives to become stronger. hero defeats enemy, stronger enemy appears and defeats hero. repeat the vicious cycle.