Yeah that is the problem, people think it is not suposed to be treated like something dangerous and we are alowed to have individual thoughts on this so to please every one... my thought is...

Ok for the general most of people are afreid of homo people couse they think they will get rape by them... they are homo not rapeists or they are people like us they dont try to rape you if they like you; they would maybe try to make you like them and that is it... exept if your in a jail

And on the subject of what i think of them... well lets just say this
Male/male and woman/woman mariges dont produce nothing... no kids... no kids means just that stoping the grouth of a nation in people and when there are no new ppl and the old are dieing that means... well you all know the death of a nation... Nothing this dramatic can happend fast but more and more they are saying its ok to be gay and gay people are heroes like in the movie Alexander they wanted to make him into a gay person ... I dont know what is whit that propaganda...

So just to explain what i think of them so that everyone understands me. Ther love stops at sexual couse they cant make ther "own" family; they dont understand that "love" is more then love for your partner; so i personaly dont hate them, they can do what ever they want with there bodies... The only though on ther lifes that i have is that they lead a meaningless life.

Btw sry for my bad english



i forgot to say this thats why im quoting

All in all they are just people

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Gay couples that want to start a family Do, they adopt children that straight parents don't want or cant have. They are as good / bad parents as any other type of person.

no... i said they cant have there own children... like

Ok lets explain it like this why do some old people like grandmas and grandpas like when they get a male grandchild are more happier then when they get a woman... couse that mail grandcild will continue the family aka the famili blood/name will live on...
When u adopt you have a child but you adopted it, it is not your "blood"...

btw everyone can adopt/artifical insemenate or whats it called, but the chilldren born out of couples is "fruit of ther love" its "ther chiled" bouth of them thats why i said 2 gay people (male or female) cant make children...

The thing is if they keep saying that its great to be gay and stuff like that on the media(any kind) ; and my relationship with homo or hetero people is always the same i treat them as people they can always get a + or a - from me its the propaganda i dont like and like i said in this case as well is ther a real meaning to rase a child and to "pretend" its a fruit of your love?

And like i said they cant make ther own family if they adopt is it ther own child did they "make it"?

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I've never heard the "It's great to be gay" thing... but I've heard the "It's not really all that evil to be gay" thing... we must live in different areas =_="...

I have classmates and friends who are gay/lesbian. Honestly, I accept homosexuality. That's why I can read yaoi comics and drool over them. Rofl.

But delving into more serious matters, I feel like as though everybody starts of bisexual from birth. In fact, even when you're happily married and straight, I still believe that you can be bisexual, because attraction knows no gender. It can't be helped. If you like somebody your own gender, you like them. It's plain and simple, and society is the one that's making it immoral, when in reality it's not.

As for the propaganda about HIV getting contracted through gay/bisexual people more than heterosexual people, it's a lie. Firstly, everybody has an equal chance of getting HIV. In fact, since gay/bisexual people are limited by society's rules, they contract and spread STDs less than straight people. Straight people are free by law and society to have sex with others, and because of this freedom they're allowed, they have more opportunities and take those opportunities to spread STDs to others.

So all in all, I accept homosexuality.

*edit. One last thing. As for the fact that they can't produce children, I don't think you have to worry about that. Gay couples are nice to have around the world because although they can't have children, they can adopt other children that were adopted by the parents that produced them from the so-called 'fruits of love'. The earth is getting overpopulated rather than underpopulated, and we NEED people to adopt other children and not produce more babies in the world at this moment. If not, there will be food shortages and one big matter, fresh water shortages and even more global warming in the future. We need to reduce the population, reduce the consumption, and what better way to do that other than letting people love who they love and adopt those less fortunate than them?

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So if we, homosexuals, can get married, the birth rate will decrease? Are we having children?! I am pretty sure it's impossible for me to have a child, unless I adopt. So if that's the case, how would the birth rate decrease?

Alexander the Great is thought to be bisexual. He had a male lover! The movie is not propaganda.

My foster brother is gay. Doesn't bug me at all, granted we don't really click either. It's all a matter of preference; you like who you like, and there's nothing you can do to change it, nor should anyone try and silence it.

As for the topic of, "oh noes the world will become underpopulatededz" There's like 6 billion people on this planet, and as we all know population always grows exponentially, never directly proportionate ( 2 people are never guaranteed to have 2 children). So the world's population will only grow. I'm thankful for homosexuality.

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The following was sent to me through the PM system. It was a long response to my previous comment about 6 month ago. I thought I should share this response with your guys because it did bring up some interesting points. Although poorly written on most part, I believe this PM merits a mention from me. I will, however, not disclose the name of the user.



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I have nothing against homosexuality, as long as they don't go too far, if you know what I mean.
My brother is gay, but he acts pretty normal, so i don't care a damn about it.
but i hate when they act overly - girly, that pisses me off. I won't say anything about it, because sometimes, even the girly ones are fun to be with, but some of them just go overboard.

conclusion: I'm okay with homosexuality.

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Those are pretty terrible answers, but they're also horrible arguments.



These aren't rational arguments. The first is a misunderstanding of science, followed by a few appeals to authority/tradition, and ending with a mess of false premises and equivocation. It's like you're playing devil's pre-law dropout rather than devil's advocate.

1. Nothing can be "against" the principles of evolution since the theory is descriptive and not prescriptive. Nor is there anything that goes against nature in the way homosexuality operates and propagates.

2. Prove god exists, that you know his will and that we have a moral obligation to follow that will. Otherwise the will of the god I invent to contradict your god is just as worthy of consideration.

3. So-called moral practices aren't inherently better the more "traditional" (or popular) they are. Some former traditional moral practices that we already got rid of are treating women like the property of men and enslaving people based on their skin color. Discrimination against gays, like sexism and racism, conflicts with the more basic of our current moral beliefs, such as valuing personal freedom. In order to avoid contradiction, we either have to get rid of institutionalized homophobia or give up principles like personal freedom and all the rights that follow from that.

4. Even if most societies pretend to treat sex as something for procreation only, all of them have systems of sex outside a procreative relationship. What they say and what they do are completely different. The more prohibitive the societies, the more illicit the systems, but they're still there. Nor do the more prohibitive societies fare better than the permissive ones. Sex, for the human species, is and has always been more than making babies. Furthermore, if this is an argument against homosexuality, it's also against infertile couples, couples too old to have children, people who use birth control, etc.

5. Being gay isn't about "being open to new ideas," but about being attracted primarily to one's own gender through no decision of one's own. (That one can choose to act against ones basic urges is irrelevant here.) Gays avoiding male-female relationships is no more odd than straights avoiding male-male and female-female ones. When people say gay and straight are "equal," they don't mean in terms of an individual's sexual tastes, they mean there's no reason to consider homosexuals or gay relationships inferior.

I completely agree with everything uraminoakindo just said and I don't think I could have put it better myself.

Me too. I just thought it was an interesting message I got the other day. It does not, in any way, represent my own opinion. Terrible arguments they may be, but interesting.


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I don't care.

There's certain things that disgust me, but that's no reason to treat anyone as a less of a human being.

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Sry for late answer but I havent been visiting the forums so offten these days

Well sry but the movie is a big propaganda otherwise where is Alexanders child (btw not this movie but movies in general are not true even the ones based on true facts aka something is always implemented in them aka some lie)

But you didnt understand me about birt rate...ah hate to explain it too long.... well like this;

My country is dieing; what does that mean means we have more ppl who die then we have chilldren born every year; that is a problem already; And on other side China,India,Brazil...etc are over populated and have more and more children but that doesnt mean thats balanced
What i mean to say... Im from Serbia and i have a fealing that Serbs will be no more if they continue like this and all we need is to promote homosexuality in our country...
So what Im trying to say its about deaths of Nations couse of less and less children in countries like mine while the over populated nations will continue to grow...
And like i said less and less people in my country so like an example:
A family wife and housband have one son and thats all thats left of ther family and then that son decides "Its ok to be gay" and no more of that bloodline... ends there...and i know of a 2-3 examples personaly... so sorry to all if i afended you in any way but I'm like a patriot and i dont want to see my people die out...We have a lot of other problems with "white plague"

But usualy i condsider a gay man/woman like any other man/woman person i only dont want to see stuff like gay parades in serbia and stuff like that ; and i dont like to see persons who are acting like they are a girl of 12 years old ; 2 weeks ago my girl friend was speaking with her friend and she was making sounds like she is 9 year old litle girl scwiking on the phone. i got like realy mad when i hear her speak like that i mean she is like 20 years old ; and i dont want to imagine a guy doing that infront of me i would just make fun of him like realy hard hars him for that

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First and foremost, you did not offend me in anyway.

I disagree that it's propaganda, but I don't have any information about the creators intent - nor do I think it's important.

Are you saying that the homosexual, of "dying" populations, should be forced into relationships with the opposite sex in order to have children? I ask because this is because it's what it sounds like you are saying, and it's the only way I can think of homosexuality affecting a population.
Just because a family decides it's okay for their child to be gay; doesn't mean their child is, or is going to become, gay.

Just because it bothers you, doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to do it. I can think of a number of things that are absolutely revolting in every way, but I will defend the right of others to do such things (e.G. The burning of the Koran).