So, I read it, and I thought that it was Ren for sure, but now I read some other opinions and some people are saying that this Cain is a different person. Although, I think that it must be Ren because it fits the whole situation. The only thing that is unclear to me is why would Ren do it? Be around her as Cain, this ruthless guy with a "I'm going to kill you if you come near me" aura? But regardless, this is the first time in 5 years of my manga reading life that I've been this excited and crazy about a manga chapter. Nakamura is a special one, that's for sure. My heart is still racing like crazy I must be sick.
What are you opinions?
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the build-up was so perfect to push all of Kyoko's "annoy me" buttons. and the ending was a great shock.
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remember how Ren took up a new job for a movie where he'd portray as a cold-blooded killer? and the company won't announce his name until after the movie is released so no one knows who's playing the killer. (check ch100 p07-11)
so, if that guy is Cain, and Cain is Ren, then Ren's just getting into his role and testing out his character (maybe the President sent Kyoko to him as a test to see if anyone can recognize him).
[Ren in ch100 p11 "I shall act so that people watching won't realize it is Tsuruga Ren."]
but the guest that Kyoko's meeting with is suposedly "the President of another agency" which Ren clearly is not. if Cain is Ren, it could be a lie on President of LME's part.
anyways, there are 3 possibilities:
A) That guy is Cain, and Cain is Ren.
B) That guy is Cain, and Cain is not Ren. Relative? Look-alike? etc..
C) That guy is Ren, and Cain is someone else..
so, if that guy is Cain, and Cain is Ren, then Ren's just getting into his role and testing out his character (maybe the President sent Kyoko to him as a test to see if anyone can recognize him).
[Ren in ch100 p11 "I shall act so that people watching won't realize it is Tsuruga Ren."]
but the guest that Kyoko's meeting with is suposedly "the President of another agency" which Ren clearly is not. if Cain is Ren, it could be a lie on President of LME's part.
anyways, there are 3 possibilities:
A) That guy is Cain, and Cain is Ren.
B) That guy is Cain, and Cain is not Ren. Relative? Look-alike? etc..
C) That guy is Ren, and Cain is someone else..
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I re-read all of the 152 chapters recently because I was thinking of dropping the series because it was too slow, but after I re-read it all I realized that the extra slow pace was because I was waiting for chapters for a month or so every time and it made it seem a lot slower. I realized that Kyoko is becoming more and more aware of Ren and I'm all happy now xD Anyways, my point is that after re-reading it, it seems that "Cain" being Ren makes a whole lot of sense because:
1) The whole BJ thing
2) It is a test for both Ren and Kyoko and a way for them to understand each other better and all that xD
3) Nakamura isn't the type to just randomly throw in another character like that, in the 152. chapter.
4) I NEED it to be Ren
5) There is no way a person like that could exist and live like that every day and not be in jail (so in my opinion a person with such a push over personality can only be a character portrayed by someone (read: Ren xD))
Well, I just feel that it must be him. It feels very...natural sort of /fangirl
SPOILER:
IT'S REEEEEEEEEEEEN! YEY! I knew it. I'm so happy now ^^
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1) The whole BJ thing
2) It is a test for both Ren and Kyoko and a way for them to understand each other better and all that xD
3) Nakamura isn't the type to just randomly throw in another character like that, in the 152. chapter.
4) I NEED it to be Ren
5) There is no way a person like that could exist and live like that every day and not be in jail (so in my opinion a person with such a push over personality can only be a character portrayed by someone (read: Ren xD))
Well, I just feel that it must be him. It feels very...natural sort of /fangirl
SPOILER:
IT'S REEEEEEEEEEEEN! YEY! I knew it. I'm so happy now ^^
Last edited by dora0chan at 12:28 am, Feb 20 2010
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