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Post #360904 - Reply to (#359002) by Manick
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Swordswoman
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9:34 pm, Mar 1 2010
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Quote from chulian1819
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During the search of a tag, the page should also recommend not only by the beginning of the word, but also inside, example:
I typed "war" so it should suggest "world war 2"
It does this when you search in the Categories section ... I'm afraid I don't want to add more load to our database doing more like %stuff% queries.
Well you're right (at the beginning of the tag boom) but also this could lead to tag duplication
how so? you can easily search for "War" in the categories section, and it shows all the items, war, world war 2, etc...

I agree w/ chulian about the tag duplication. for example, there's a tag named "Cafe/Bakery/Bar/Restaurant". In the 'Edit Categories' page, if someone searches for "Cafe" they could find this tag, but if they search for "Bakery" they couldn't, and they'd want to add a new tag for it. This results in duplicates due to synonyms. (Searching in the main dictionary would work, but not when you're trying to add a tag in the Edit page).


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Any subjective ones should be immediately deleted

If it's overly-subjective, yes. If it's something that ppl actually search for in a series, then no (that's where you can make use of the voting).

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And some tags...
"triangle" and "love triangle"
"brothel" and "prostitute"
"demon' and "devil"
"Mafia" "Yakuza"
"Gangster" "Delinquent"

they barely have different meanings >< Could always combine into Demon/Devil or something =/

I know what you mean. I've been finding a lot of those and sending in change requests for them. Either keep one of them or merge them togther with a "/". But in order to search for these types of tags, users have to be able to search inside the phrase and not just the beginning (as mentioned earlier in this post).

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Also, I have a question: There are a lot of manga based off video games, so should there be a "video game" tag? (Still pending approval, but this tag system sounds cool)

We already have one...
http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?category=Video+Gam e+Based

There's also a "Based on a Game" apart from "Video Game Based".
And another one just "Game", although this one is slightly different in meaning.


For tags that have been deleted, there should be a way to filter them so that they can't be added back into the system, in case of re-duplication.

Oh and Manick, I think you should make an official statement about adding the Include/Exclude Categories function so people won't keep asking.

Last edited by b1ue_wishes at 10:10 pm, Mar 1 2010

Post #361935
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7:42 pm, Mar 6 2010
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Another thumbs up for descriptions for the tags, and...

More categories are popping up with only 1 or 2 series in them, which really annoys me... (especially if it's a repeat category). If there are so little series with it, they shouldn't be called a "categorie" =/
Just a suggestion, but, would it be a good idea to set a function that forces people to list at least 5 series when trying to add a new tag?

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Is there a way to apply genre filtering in applying these tags? It's a little annoying to have a list full of hentai come up when you look through certain tag lists.

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Quote from Urameshi-sama
Is there a way to apply genre filtering in applying these tags? It's a little annoying to have a list full of hentai come up when you look through certain tag lists.

You can filter your search if you use the advanced genre search: http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?act=genresearch

I don't think there's a way to apply filters if you just click on a tag though.

I added the category "Superhero" the first day the category system went into effect and now it's been changed to "Super Heros". I don't have a problem with that except the correct spelling is "Heroes".

I skimmed through the list of categories and 2 other mistakes are "Tranformations" and "Whinny Protagonist".

And I hope this doesn't count as double posting.

Last edited by blakraven66 at 8:54 pm, Mar 11 2010

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When I tag with S&M it adds a weird character and adds it as a new tag....


sorry to bother but are there any plans for using this functionality also for user recommendations and to let people vote witch series are best a like?

keep the good work MU staff ^^

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Yeah for me too. Also, if you search S&M using the box on the advanced search page, nothing shows up.
Also, this is completely unrelated to categories, but it it is to searching...is there any way to search S&M in the description, and not have everything with an & show up? I tried "S&M" but that didn't work, and then the "search for description" function stopped working and it went to titles no matter what...
anyway, I still think Category Descriptions should be added and made searchable when one tries to edit the categories,

Also, If you type (Dea) (without the parentheses) into the add category slot, and wait, the list will drop down with (dead...etc), but not (death...etc)... shouldn't they both appear as they both have dea in them?

Once again, when I try to alphabetize by title the list from a search, it doesn't work.
Sorry, just remembered all those.

Also, "Mafia" and "Yakuza" are different, as one will have yakuza and one will have members of the mafia... so not japan, usually.

Devil implies religion, while demon could simply be a translation of youkai or something.
While these are very similar, they are unique enough to deserve their own name, and maybe could be grouped somehow?
Also, once I tried to add () to a tag, but they disappeared...

Last edited by asrodeia at 6:11 pm, Apr 9 2010

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Not really a bug, but can we get an exclude categories in the advanced genre search?

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I have two questions.
First, should the names of categories be capitalized as if they were titles, or does it not matter? I ask because I personally am inclined not to capitalize them, simply because the categories seem to me to be simple descriptors, not titles, though some of my fellow grammar nazis seem to disagree. Given that you can click on a category and see a list of series under it, I can understand how someone could think a category name is in fact a title; however, from the series info page, which is most likely the more common view, category names for a manga just look like tags, that is, merely words that describe something. In this case, then, they aren't actually titles, which means it would be incorrect to capitalize them as if they were. Well, that's my two cents, anyway. For now, I'll just be glad the categories work regardless of capitalization, I s'pose. smile
Moving on, I originally thought--before reading the posts here, I mean--that this thread was for reporting things like, "The categories 'dog' and 'dog/s' are the same; they should be combined into one," or "'idol' and 'pop star' are basically the same; why not replace them both with 'idol/pop star' instead," (essentially the same as the "Manga List Bug Topic" thread), but no one seems to be using it that way, plus Manick said something about linking synonymous categories... So, um, would it be okay if I reported things like that here, or should I only use the "request change" to do that, or should I leave categories alone for now?

Edit:
I felt like I should make an update since my question got answered, so here it is: The rule is that category names should be capitalized like titles.

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You can post a reply here to keep track of them if you want ... for now I'm being lazy with a wrist injury, so nothing is getting done.

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Post #376658 - Reply to (#365251) by chulian1819
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I'm not sure if this has been noted yet, but I noticed a tag that doesn't save my 'agree' and turn green as it's supposed to. I suspect it is because there is an apostrophe (single quote) in the name.

http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=2570

http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?category=In+Love+W ith+Family+Member%27s+Lover

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I think we can merge the "business man" and "salaryman" categories.

Post #377849 - Reply to (#377834) by wolf_unknown
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I think we can merge the "business man" and "salaryman" categories.


Huh? How are they totally similar?

There are "business men" in Japan who may be "salary men"(those who work as employees for medium/large corporations, small enterprises, etc for a certain "salary".), there are also those who run their own businesses. Isn't that kinda different from being an employee then? confused

Post #377880 - Reply to (#377800) by Liria
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Quote from Liria
I'm not sure if this has been noted yet, but I noticed a tag that doesn't save my 'agree' and turn green as it's supposed to. I suspect it is because there is an apostrophe (single quote) in the name.

http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=2570

http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?category=In+Love+W ith+Family+Member%27s+Lover

fixed

Post #377887 - Reply to (#377849) by VampireBanana
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Huh? How are they totally similar?

There are "business men" in Japan who may be "salary men"(those who work as employees for medium/large corporations, small enterprises, etc for a certain "salary".), there are also those who run their own businesses. Isn't that kinda different from being an employee then? confused


I see your argument, but "businessman" is also used to refer to white-class office workers as a whole, not just those who run their own businesses. "Salaryman" is essentially that, but the term the Japanese use. Even if there is a substantial difference between "businessman" and "salaryman," the problem is that, as far as I can tell, a lot of the tags don't seem to reflect it, e.g. you'll get manga with "a common businessman" tagged "businessman" when, according to your definition, it would probably go under "salaryman" (I mean, we usually don't technically know if they're salaried or not, but if we're going to stick to that, then practically the entire salaryman category is eliminated for lack of talking about salary in the manga).

I don't think you're wrong in distinguishing the two, I just don't think that the current tags show that distinction, because for a lot of people, "businessman" and "salaryman" are often the same. At the very least, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get different terms to distinguish between "business owner/executive" versus "common paper-pusher" and reorganize the manga currently with the businessman/salaryman tags to reflect the difference. Otherwise, there's just a lot of overlap.

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