"Cause im freeeeee, free fallin"
What does it mean to be free?: When gravity has its way with you.
Are you free?: Only when free falling.
Is anyone free?: Only when they're free falling.
What do you think of choices people make?: Choices don't matter when your free falling.
Are prisoners free? Only if they're free falling.
Is America really the land of the free?: Only when the Earth breaks free of its invisible axis (or whatever it hangs on) and starts free falling, will America, truly, be the land of the free (fallers).
Freedom through religion?: Only if the religion is about free falling.
Can you really have peace and freedom together?: If peace could free fall...i guess the closest anyone will get to that is having pieces of (noun) free falling.


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You're free to do whatever is within your power.

But there are consequences to all your actions.

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Happiness isn't good enough for me! I demand euphoria!” "

i dont think so. the definition of free is exemption from external control.so as long as there are outisde influences on the choices that you are able to make then no.

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What idoes it mean to be free?
- free simply means you can do whatever you want, and anything you want... but of course no society wants that, cause it would be chaotic, so i guess there is a DEGREE of freedom

Are you free?
- not really, i sometimes feel cornered, i think society and laws still have a flaw, and favors certain people over another

Is anyone free?
- i guess some people are better off than others

Do prisoners have freedom?
- well i guess not, since theyre prisoners... but since theyve done wrong, society dont want to be near these sinners... though the law system is definetely imperfect, and sometime have innocent people in there, or unfair judgements, especially towards people with no power

What do you think of choices people make?
- some things need to be changed for the better

Is America Really a land of the free?
- compared to most countries, YES, but in a way, its BIASED, they claim equal rights , but it still strongly favors certain races over another, but things are getting better i would say

People do say you can find freedom through religion, is this really true?
- no, religion , believe it or not causes war, tyranny, intolerance, and dilusional or twisted minds... more like forms a cult of brainwashed people... christianity caused war, judism caused war, shintoism caused war, and of course the religion the terrorists in afghanistan and iraq (not all people there believe in it, but some) have claims america is the enemies, so i think religion also is biased and is like an illusion or a lie towards people to feel what they should feel....

Can you really have peace and freedom together?
- i dont think its possible... theres always someone who doesnt like what you do, and theres always something you do that will indirectly effect other people in a good or bad way... thats life, everyone has their own point of views and self interests...

freedom: to have no sort of external or internal control over one's self.

okay, so the word "freedom" is highly debatable because it really is a relative term
and can vary from one individual to the next.
my personal opinion is that every single being on this planet
is born with the "god-given" right to be free.
NO one has the right to control another because we're all controlled by universal law.
yet, to preserve order and safety, humans have decided to control another individual's decisions in one way or another.
i mean, no matter where you go, unless it some uninhabited, untouched land,
there will always be man's laws there to control you.
so, physically, NO, no one is free and as long as mankind exists and governments thrive, laws will always remain.
so physically, freedom is pretty close to impossible..

however, i feel like the only one that can truly control you is yourself because
i feel like it is and always will be "mind over matter".

mentally, it is possible to become free.
over the years, i've learned that not only can laws control a being,
but also desires, fears, and your own negative thoughts can weigh you down.

and unless the government can really 're-educate' you with a mind-control machine, like in the novel '1984', you really can obtain freedom.
for example, a prisoner could be physically contained behind thick, iron bars
and yet, their mind can travel outside the prison walls. [cheesy, yeh? lol]

no cage will ever confine my free mind. (:

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I'm sorry but I agree with everything you said before, apart from this particular sentence. The reason why, is because there is no correct definition for freedom, for even the definition is made by a person who is someone else than you. You can't take someone elses opinion when defining freedom and consider it to be a fact. either you were wrong, or you have phrased the sentence incorrectly

Now, not to spam the topic, I would like to come back to the original topic which answers the following questions:

I will answer them based on my perspective towards life, since that is the only one which I am or anyone else is legible to use, about themselves.

What idoes it mean to be free? To me, to be free is to do as you please, as long as this doesn't interfere with other's definitions of freedom, obviously to some extent I do expect the same from other's, this creates freedom for me.

Are you free? Yes, I am and no I'm not at the same time. My freedom is to some extent restricted by laws and order, but this is to prevent interference of my actions that other's disapprove of. I, however can choose to ignore these laws and order and do as I please, ONLY if I choose to, though. Knowing that I am capable of doing so, makes me a free person.

Is anyone free? This is based on if they think they are free, and to some extent depends on the physical restraints the person has. For example prison. Where the prisoners may feel free to do certain things, however are physically restrained from leaving the prison.

do prisoners have freedom? Prison was originally designed, not to physically restrain people, which it obviously does, but to take away their full freedom. This was invented many centuries ago by ancient cultures of Tmubai in a region what's now known as Africa.

What do you think of choices people make? I don't even want to post a reply to this question because, even though I have an ability to judge other's choices about freedom, I do not think it is necessary to. It's up to them.

Is America Really a land of the free? What a stupid question to even put on this forum. America, was originally colonised in the first place, so it didn't even start off as a free land, when it's original occupants (indian tribes), were slaughtered and put into special regions for them to exist while white people would overtake the lands and start to build cities? No, I don't think it should be considered as the land of the free, since it still stands on the foundation of bloodbath and so many deaths of the innocent.

People do say you can find freedom through religion, is this really true? God doesn't exist. <-- is that true? FOR ME it is. This is based on how deep the belief is. If a religion helps YOU to be free, well then hey! That's good for you but...this is a sheer belief, which cannot be argued.

Can you really have peace and freedom together? Yes. (should be obvious right?)

This is only my opinion though, freedom is a relative thing which cannot be argued to any extent.

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"Freedom is what you do with what's been done to you." - Jean-Paul Sartre.

What idoes it mean to be free?
Imnsho, It means to be able to make choices. Bear in mind that choices have consequences. You are free to break the law, but that can get your sorry ass into jail.

Are you free?
Yes, as I can make choices.
Is anyone free?
Yes, everyone can make choices.

do prisoners have freedom?
Yes, they can make choices and it was the stupid ones that made them go to jail.

What do you think of choices people make?
Sometimes it's stupid. Sometimes it's not.

Is America Really a land of the free?
The world is the land of the free.

People do say you can find freedom through religion, is this really true?
Hell no! Religion is a way to justify actions and situations. e.g.: I have shitty luck and I get fired from my jod and my wife leaves me, I am religious hence I think "God is cursing/testing me for what I've done/my faith" instead off "Dang, I shouldn't have placed bets on a horse race and should have stopped drinking on work"

Can you really have peace and freedom together?
There is no peace. Humans are animals. Animals have instincts. Instincts usually dictates that you have to be better than someone else. Do the math.


Opression is not the enemy of freedom. Opressed people are free to choose to fight their opressors.


*prepares to be flamed*

Sure I can feel free myself, but others might have the
need to restrict me, since when I do things as I feel like
doing them, I will take the toys of other kids.

First of all, a persons opinions are NEVER wrong. That's why they're called opinions. They might be different from yours, or you might not agree with them, but they're never wrong.
Second, I realized I didn't phrase my post correctly, so I fixed it a bit to get my point across.
Thirdly, please use spellcheck and learn the proper usage for 'your' and 'you're'. Its hard to take someone seriously when they type like you.

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READ. The question is Do prisoners have freedom? The word "Prisoner" means he is in jail. So it clearly asks do the ones that are in jail have freedom? It doesn't question as to HOW they got there. It asks "Do they have it (in jail?)".

oh and............



Well, in my opinion, you are a douchebag. And many times we wonder, what is a definition of a word "douchebag". Well a good definition is a thousand words, however let me make it short for you.

Fr33noob, here was stating that your opinion was wrong, thus disagreeing with him, which was IN HIS OPINION.(since there was no word "fact" used in his sentences). You, on the other hand didn't even understand the point he was trying to get across picking on his grammar and DENYING HIS OPINION, which you told him he can't do. Well, this makes you a douchebag.

REMEMBER: This whole forum is based on opinions that people like to discuss, for the facts cannot be argued, they are FACTS. What is the point of an argument if someone is trying to argue facts, they are non-arguable material. And since no one was using factual information, no matter how you thought this seemed, even if you THOUGHT that he was using facts, he wasn't, this is all based on sheer opinions. Peac3th3f0k0uT!

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Well, you're free to think I'm a douchebag.

I didn't deny his opinion. I simply told him what I think, which is my opinion. Did I say the word 'fact' anywhere? No. I suppose I came on rather strong, but that was because I was pissed off. Not that I'm sure I understood his opinion, as you said. I have trouble understanding people who don't speak properly.

As for the matter of his opinion of freedom, I agree with it, if only partially. Which is why I didn't mention it.

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Yes. You phrased it. ___below


the FACT is that you didn't understand him, jumping to conclusions, assuming that he was stating facts and randomly picking on his bad grammar. (which you said was the reason for not being able to take him seriously). With reason there is fact.

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A persons opinion can be wrong! Deny it if you will but i see no fact in your reasoning, and yes as an english language there are definitions to words with a broad prospect such as freedom. And the broad definition to this word is : to be able to do as please: move, think, act, shout, kill, steal, selfharm, suicide, masacare and basically anything within your possible grasp is "freedom".

What you actualy ment to say is that: a person opinion is always correct to the person whom has told it or he will always belive his own opinion, it is not possible to have an opinion you disagree with.

opinions are peoples perspective+preference and that can be WRONG.
If you are upset don't quote me, use your time to pick up a picture book and some crayons you know...keep yourself ocupied, dont just talk bu%+£t.

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I believe in letting people do as they wish, as do I myself. Sometimes, of course, what I wish to do is kill them and they do not wish to die. This gives life interest.