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Post #394109 - Reply to (#394063) by foreverfree123
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8:43 pm, Jul 24 2010
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And If I did order a series I liked. They eventually just got dropped. Good titles that I have actually been interested in have all been dropped. Whats the point of buying manga if the series is going to get dropped. Some titles I could mention include Rure, Junai Tokkou Taichou! , Apothecarius Argentum and a bunch of other titles that where dropped. All most all other titles I read ,have not been published in English. I would buy the manga if it where available in English. But its not and if they are they have a high percentage of being dropped.


I totally feel your pain for series getting dropped. I didn't read Apothecarius Argentum, but I read a toooon of other titles from CMX, and was (and still am) devastated by DC's cancellation of the imprint. They had really nice taste in manga, and there were a number of series just starting or soon to start that I really looked forward to, to say nothing of the great series they'd been publishing for a long time. I followed Jun'ai Tokkou Taichou! too!! But in the case of CMX as well as that particular title from Tokyopop, the dropping was beyond the publishers' control. I know the CMX staff (an awesome bunch of people, from my experience) would have loved to keep releasing manga for us if they could've. Tokyopop lost the license to Jun'ai back when the Japanese publisher Kodansha pulled all their titles away. But I know (definitely) how upsetting it is when your favourite series gets dropped or put on hiatus, no matter whose "fault" it is.

Still... if we readers don't buy manga, then companies are going to have to keep dropping underselling titles in order to stay in business. Tokyopop looked pretty shaky for a couple years, but by cutting back and focusing more on the better-selling series they had, they came through. They're now very consistent with the time and quality of their releases, offering more variety and licensing series they really believe in (rather than just throwing anything out there). They've even brought back some of the series previously put on hold, when they heard enough fans saying, "We really want this!" (like a double-volume of the josei series Suppli, or shoujo manga Gatcha Gacha, which was halted with one volume to go for a long time, but finally gets its last volume in early November!) So my advice to those who can is to buy the series you want to read, and show the publisher/bookstore that you're interested! Viz and Yen (and Tokyopop in the last year or so) have proven themselves very reliable, and don't often (or ever) drop series.

In response to those who say they don't like official-publications' quality—maybe we read different series, but I think US publishers offer great quality. I have a much harder time enjoying scanlations because (in my experience) the translations rarely flow well, the scans are frequently from low-print-quality magazines, and there are often a ridiculous number of silly-looking fonts distracting me from the actual content of the manga. Plus, staring at a screen just cannot compare to reading pages of a physical book. I'm a book-lover for life!

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9:14 pm, Jul 24 2010
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it will be really hard... manga reading would never be the same... cry

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Post #394146
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12:04 am, Jul 25 2010
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It's difficult to find manga in my country, so I have to rely on getting it off the internet. It's not that there's a lack of interest, but apparently no manga is imported. Due to the exchange rate, buying manga online can be costly. If it is in the library (very few titles) it's snatched off the shelves. If it weren't for the internet reading manga would be near impossible.

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Currently, in Germany it is possible to access manga. Amazon's a great help, but they have them also in paper shops or book stores. They are 6.50€ - 6.95€ (about $8-9) each, so I think they are affordable?! So why is it that I still hang around mangafox everytime, when I can easily access manga in my region? I'll tell you why:

1.) German translators SUCK!!! They suck so much I can't bear it anymore! They totally ignore and/or misinterpret japanese modes of speaking! For example: when someone in a manga adresses someone else with "san", German translators love to translate it as "mister". Can you imagine the XXX-szenes?! "Oh, mister Satou, please more more ...". ôO ARGH!
"sensei" is even worse. There is a very old fashioned expression - "Herr Lehrer" (equivalent to the English word "Sir") - which they often use for translating "sensei", but it totally doesn't fit. The effect is that the characters look like idiots. Totally ruins the mood.

2.) The manga which are available ... well, I'd rate them "5" at most! There are the popular ones of course, like One Piece, Dragonball, D.N.A., ... But besides those the vast majority is nothing but crap. They're all manga with a very average and often silly storyline and mediocre, standardized art. Seems that this is all German readers can take. Even at Amazon it's hard to get really good manga. But that's what people (in Germany) buy.

So, these are the main reasons I rather read manga online than buying the original. I'm sorry for the mangaka, since I cannot buy most of their works. sad But this is how it is ... At this place I want to thank all the translation-groups on the internet for giving me the chance to read all the good stuff even though I would never be able to get hold of it in my country! Thank you very much! smile

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4:43 am, Jul 25 2010
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American publishers are licensing more and more series every day, and I live in an urban area of the US west coast, so getting English manga legitimately isn't difficult. I also happen to know the owner of a local hobby shop so I can get everything at wholesale price. Lucky me smile

However, I don't really read English manga anymore. And while there are Japanese bookstores around, picking up the newest issue of Weekly Jump every week is definitely more expensive here than overseas.

English manga is still, in general, much more expensive than the original Japanese version if you count out shipping costs.

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4:56 am, Jul 25 2010
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only option is importing since bookstores that i know of won't sell any mangas...

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10:41 am, Jul 25 2010
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in my case i would be able to buy some of my mangas (through internet or normal bookstores)
but i would have to drastically reduce my number, they are way too expensiv for me to afford all cry
though i would like to... also the translation SUCK, it's a pain to read them no, well at least for me
greetings from germany

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2:18 pm, Jul 25 2010
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Buying manga without the internet is hard for me because I usually buy it online since I no longer buy the English versions anymore. I suppose I could fly to L.A. to get them but I'd rather not since i would still need transportation to the bookstores once I'm down there.

Post #394427 - Reply to (#394083) by Kitteh_13
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12:05 am, Jul 26 2010
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I just hope cheap people aren't just picking the money one despite living in North America.
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You're in Canada, right?
How is buying manga here affordable?
It costs me about $12-15 for a volume where I live. I'm sure other countries are worse, but it is still a lot of money on a budget.

Buying online saves a bit of money but still... Half of my free spending money goes towards buying manga already. It would be three volumes a month for the rest of my life no

It is very available (online), however, in response to the poll.

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6:59 am, Jul 26 2010
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I guess I'd think twice if I had to pay $12-15 for one manga. ôO I mean, how long does the fun last? 2 hours? 3 hours? I think 7€ (which is abou $9) is already a bit close to the bone. I can only afford it, because I sell some manga at ebay to get back at least some of the money. I keep the good ones, though. ^^

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7:17 am, Jul 26 2010
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Problem is I can't tell if you're asking about the availability of fan translations or online purchases.

I have around zero disposable income (mostly because I find the concept completely abhorrent, if I wanted to get rid of money, I'd burn it), so without fan translations I simply wouldn't read it.

Not to mention, "official" translations have about as much value in my mind as toilet paper. I'd, literally, prefer to wipe my ass with them than read them. Which is to say, they're significantly overpriced.

p.s. stop translating porn >:[ 99.9% of the dialogue isn't anything beyond "but I didn't order any pizza! How ever will I pay!" Anything exclusively dialouge based (mind control) can be read into anything you want.

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7:38 am, Jul 26 2010
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It's not really difficult to buy manga in my country BUT it's hard to find really good ones that''re a lot of blood, ecchi....etc.... because there's a media's full-scale raep on manga 1-2 years ago (and recently is MMO) saying that it's too provocative, not good for the youth.....Of course it's partly true.... since a 10 years'old kid can buy Bible Black without an ID....
Well known ones here, such as Case Closed, got republish 4 times in recent 9 years (and the price has been x2.5 compared to the 1st publish)...well.....
About importing.... I still remembered that imported shounen-ai, ecchi are blocked at the Customs (and they don't ship it back to the homecountry >_< => lost money and gain nothing)......and also figures that're a little erotic (Black Rock Shooter...well...)...

To be able to touch manga such as To-Love Ru, I have to go oversea (like....1-2 years once.....and only Singapore) and then secretly take them back to Vietnam by hiding them in my belongings....

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Post #394498 - Reply to (#394204) by nujivaa
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7:40 am, Jul 26 2010
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only option is importing since bookstores that i know of won't sell any mangas...



Same here..,and the imports are in English which is not even my native language.... no

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7:49 am, Jul 26 2010
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It would be kind of hard, since I'd have to go to the bookstores and read/buy them before eve knowing about it and some bookstores only have the most recent manga or the ones that are popular.

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Post #394568
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11:48 am, Jul 26 2010
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The only bookstore in my country that has manga is Borders that is like 2hrs from where i live and they only bring the most popular ones. Besides that most of the mangaka's that i follow don't have any licensed series here i was lucky to find some of the vol of bokura ga ita when I went on vacation but vol 12 is available in September but the vol 13 wont be published till November 2011 Is really slow. I am also following black bird but I have to buy it online since they rarely have the volumes and when new ones arrive they're few and when i get to the store they're sold out and don't receive them for 3 or 4 months.

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