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Post #412059
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7:24 pm, Oct 3 2010
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As a new contributor, I hate to bring this up, but there seems to be a lot more NSFW images on MU than I expected. Maybe I was lulled into a false sense of security by all the heavily cropped images I encountered initially. But is there anything that can be done to reduce the number of NSFW images? The wiki nature of the site works great for text but not so great for images. Some "fans" seem to think it is amusing to upload NSFW images despite the site warning. If routing all new images through mods is too burdensome how about images for titles with ecchi or hentai as a genre? This is a pretty big deal to me, since my time on 100% private PCs is pretty limited and I really would like to navigate MU more often than that. Especially since ANN seems to have given up on actually being an encyclopedia for manga and I need a place to move my list to and be able to check out titles new to me. At least at ANN, I didn't have to worry about NSFW images.

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8:04 pm, Oct 3 2010
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First off, where are these so called NSFW images on MU?
Second, what's your definition of NSFW?
Series images have to be approved before they're posted on the site, at least that's what I remember when it comes to adding/editing series info.
If you're browsing ecchi and hentai series (or smut/yaoi/etc) then those are usually along the lines of nsfw but that's self explanatory from the series genre itself. Wondering why you're browsing hentai/ecchi at work anyways...
There are also filters to not list them in releases and whatnots(accessible through your User CP), and the adult(18+) forum is pretty clear it's nsfw.

Not to mention there's still a report inappropriate image function should you find something that really shouldn't be there.

List some examples to your cause, since currently it just seems like you're not aware of the functions of the site.

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Post #412075 - Reply to (#412059) by lumber
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At least at ANN, I didn't have to worry about NSFW images.


I wouldn't consider the image for this title on ANN to be work safe (not a manga, but still...). Anyways, I'm not sure whether this would address your problem, but you can filter releases by genre (through the User CP - release filtering option), which would allow you to avoid NSFW-type series while on a shared computer.

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Series images don't have to be approved

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Post #412098
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8:43 pm, Oct 3 2010
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@greydrak

I did say I was a new contributor to MU including new series (approx 20 so far), new images (lots) and updates (lots). All part of moving my manga lists from ANN and MAL to MU. My definition of NSFW would be the MU site definition when uploading images: "Please do not use sexually explicit or overly graphic images" with the addendum of not exposing private parts. Not Safe for Work.

As for an example, I have been reporting inappropriate images to the mods whenever I run across one. And while it is hard to check up on them all since there is no email and no record in the User CP once the mods have acted upon the request, but it seems like about 5 or more images I reported have been removed. So yes, there were some NSFW images on MU. And so no, I don't actually have an example since the worst offenders have already been removed.

I wasn't aware that series images had to be approved by a mod or else I wouldn't have started this topic. Is that a fact? All the images I have uploaded are displayed right away. And I do edit any NSFW images beforehand. Sometimes rather ruthlessly. Better to err on the side of caution and be SFW than NSFW.

I was talking about DB entries not the 18+ forums and while I do try to stay away from NSFW genres when not on a private computer, it's not always possible since numerous entiries have no genres or incorrect genres. Besides, due to site policy, I was under the impression I wouldn't run into any really bad NSFW images. And that was true for a while... sad

@ hahhah42

Nice counter-example. Heh. But that comes close to passing even on a technicality since private parts are not overly exposed (except one girl's rear-end) nor is there anything explicit. I certainly wouldn't want to download it to a work computer but coming across it in passing shouldn't be too major of a problem although it probably should have been edited at least a little. Most all the images that I was referring to on MU were worse than that... sad

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Post #412185 - Reply to (#412098) by lumber
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1:49 am, Oct 4 2010
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Quote from lumber
I was talking about DB entries not the 18+ forums and while I do try to stay away from NSFW genres when not on a private computer, it's not always possible since numerous entiries have no genres or incorrect genres. Besides, due to site policy, I was under the impression I wouldn't run into any really bad NSFW images. And that was true for a while... sad


I forgot to mention this in my previous post, but you can also filter out releases from specific scanlation groups (the option is available on the group's page). While this wouldn't help for scanlators that work on both ecchi and work-safe genres, you would be able to avoid all the dj/hentai/yaoi/yuri groups, at least (I would hazard a guess that most of the mislabeled series you speak of fall into the above categories, rather than ecchi/mature, although I could easily be mistaken).

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I certainly wouldn't want to download it to a work computer but coming across it in passing shouldn't be too major of a problem although it probably should have been edited at least a little.


At the place I last worked (lost my job last month cry ), that sort of image would have gotten me into no small amount of trouble... As an aside, that "series" received reviews in "Shelf Life" (way down at the bottom of the page), back when ANN apparently had their female staff reviewing highly graphic hentai titles. Don't know why that policy changed...

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2:03 am, Oct 4 2010
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Well, two of the series that you flagged were altered... not correctly but they were.

The person that added it removed the nipples and areolas from the cover page, because he thought that was considered "censored". Those images were removed.


And to restate what lambchopsil said... Series Images do not require approval to be added to the site.

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All I can promise is that if you flag them, we'll deal with them. If you see that nothing's changed within a day or two, then report it again and write more text besides the generic report with the series ID. No action may have been taken because your level of censorship is different

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Post #412459
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7:11 pm, Oct 4 2010
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@hahhah42

Maybe I've just been lucky but I've used ANN for years from work without any incidents. Having said that, the usual response for incidental NSFW images seems to be to just block the site. There are a number of anime/manga sites that are blocked presumably for not being more discrete about NSFW images. Which I hope doesn't happen to MU and one reason I started this topic. Now, OTOH, if I went out my way to download pr0n to a work computer, serious consequences would happen.

@Toto

What about copious amounts of "jizz"? Isn't that considered rather explicit? Several of the images I reported had that. I'm pretty sure it would be considered NSFW where I work. I would edit that out from any images I upload (from a private computer).

@ lambchopsil

I appreciate it but reporting after that fact might be too late. Unfortunately. sad Once a site is blocked, rarely are they unblocked. That's why I started this topic. As far as varying definitions of censorship, it's not as random as you might think. Large companies buy blocking software and databases from 3rd parties and because of that, I've found that once a site gets blocked at one company, it gets blocked at a lot of companies. I was just trying to avoid that happening with MU.


All in all, it sounds like the safest thing is to stay logged out of MU and rely on the fact that you have to be logged in before hentai images will be displayed. Which is what I used to do. Unfortunately that means that I can't update my lists and won't be able to edit or submit entries like I was doing as I started moving my lists over. Guess that means, that I'll go back to moving my list from ANN to MAL. Not looking forward to that since their DB is so much smaller than MU's and I have already submitted well over a hundred series as I check out related titles and new series. But at least their images are moderated and shouldn't be NSFW.

Thanks for the responses.

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