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Firstly, I am Canadian Asian girl and I really agree with what you say (most). I am not fluent in Vietnamese and I have trouble socializing with people in my culture. But don't get me wrong, I am very respectful to my elders and my culture. I just have a problem communicating (so I tend to be shy and quite). However, my cousin came to Canada when she was 8 and was able to pick up both languages very well. To my family she is as most stereotype Asian girls are, conservative, cook, clean, respectful, blah blah. Since I was close to her age she would tell me story of her wild life! She completely fool everyone in and close to my family. Even her boyfriend think she is that type... But you would not believe the things she tells me and the number of guys she dated. She is completely as you describe. She tells me she is only attracted to white or mixed guys. And that Asian guys bore her... Now that she is 'older' guess that guys she is dating now? ..... Of course an Asian guy.. And now she is putting on the I am so innocent conservative good Asian girl act....
I am the opposite of my cousin. I am quite outgoing, when I am not speaking to elderly people that is. I am closer to the guys then girls. But I am traditionally more conservative in the sense, that I like to cook, clean and have a guy that take the first step. I don't really give out my numbers and I have been called native by many people. But, everyone in my family seems to think I am the wild one. My brothers and guys have told my I look the type of girls that party all the time (even though I hardly/never come home past). A lot of asian girls I meet now are really as you say.
Not all, but yes, many are, especially where I live. They are usually more quiet and subtle about their feelings on the subject, because as shallow and vain as these particular people are, at least they are smart enough to be more subtle about it... instead of boasting loudly about it and being as insulting and vindictive as possible. So at least they don't become unattractive.
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Point of the story is, many Asian girls are more interested in White guys. But I feel like they won't admit it. And I think it is from the show they watch is the influence.
I really support Interracial date, it will certainly strengthen the gene pool!
Funny story, I have been asked my guys if I go for Asian guys! I always laugh and ask if I seem like the type that does go for Asian guy. of course they always say yes. And I tell them that I have had crush on different ethnicity but I actually prefer Asian guys.
Sorry I went off topic.
Let me clear up any potential misunderstandings.
I don't care about the subject of interracial relationships. I don't support them and I'm not against them.
As for "strengthening the gene pool"... I'm not sure where you got that from, but if I were you, I'd take that idea with a bit of skepticism.
I think most of the evidence in favour of interracial hybrid vigor is bogus. Most of the evidence in favour of it have to deal with armchair logic and a priori knowledge. The evidence of hybrid vigor is rarely balanced out equally damning evidence of hybrid depression. You'll only hear of hybrid vigor from propaganda pieces many crackpot scientists, and I can almost guarantee you that these articles will be published alongside other articles that attack older conservative white males, as is obligatory for left-wing propaganda. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not very fond of right-wing propaganda either.) I've read some specious studies that mixed children tend to be smarter. No, they aren't really by any signficant margin. In fact, the only credible reports I've read showed mixed Asians actually doing slightly worse academically than Asians. I doubt that the reasons for those results are genetic, but the results I've seen certainly don't suggest anything extraordinary about mixed people.
Now consider the evidence against hybrid vigor. Han Chinese, like myself, are basically the mutts of East Asia. Our blood is incredibly "mixed" through centuries of by interethnic marriage, being invaded/raped, subjugated, invading others, etc. And our culture supports this. As "xenophobic" as we in the West may think Chinese are, Chinese are a pretty tolerant and casual group of people when it comes to nationality. What other group has forgiven and assimilated as quickly with "foreign invaders" who subjugated us to mass murders, rape, torture, and subjugation/humiliation? (Eg. Mongols, Manchu, Japanese, and the current World Order). My point: Han are very mixed, and fairly "culturally liberal" for East Asia. And yet... let's compare us to the relatively homogenous Yamato Japanese or Koreans. Are we as a mixed group of Asians genetically superior (after thousands of years of mixing with people from all over East Asia)? No. In fact, our average IQ is a couple points or more lower than that of the homogenous South Koreans. Note that "Han Chinese" also include Korean mixes; Koreans are actually an officially recognized minority of the PRC.
Where's the noticeable evidence of hybrid vigor? Again, I've only heard armchair logic.
In the end, does this matter? Anyone who actually worries about something so unsubstantiated and insignificant (especially when weighed against other factors, particularly ones derived from a posteriori knowledge) has a few screws loose and probably isn't worth our time.
On the same note, I don't have much against interracial marriage either. I don't really care if your sister dates a bunch of white guys. Maybe your sister has issues, but I don't know and I don't care to know. Some white guys I know date Asian girls, and they are both perfectly fine and pleasant/polite people. If the white guy actually befriends his girlfriend's Asian relatives and makes an attempt to respect them and their culture, then I might even think, "cool, he is keeping the culture, language, and values alive (possibly even better than a lot of ABCs)."
What bothers me is when it's not simply enough for an Asian chick to date a white guy, she also needs to make a dramatic political statement about it:
- "I'm dating a white guy, because I am a rebel!"
- "White guys are more assertive!" / "Asian guys are too passive!"
- "My Asian parents are too controlling and stupid!"
- "Asian culture is too oppressive!" / "I'm a freedom loving American!"
- "I'm totally whitewashed! I can't imagine myself dating an Asian guy!" / "I'm so whitewashed, I can only speak English!" / "Don't lump me in with other Asians! I'm different!"
We get that you're unique like everyone else.
Then we get people not unlike the topic-starter (the college student who still hasn't gotten past puberty) who don't stop there. They have to go on and insult the people she thinks she's transcending and leaving behind. I mean, looking at the topic-starter's comments, the only thing she's missing are the penis jokes.
The attitude is completely transparent:
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Maybe being an asian girl or black guy, I guess we are just stuck with having to deal with the worst pickings...
Yes. Woe be the Asian girl and the black guy for being
stuck with us lowly Asian males and black females.
Some of these Asian girls are so stuck up, that they automatically assume any Asian guy that talks to them must be trying to hit on them. I had a Taiwanese American ex-roommate that I politely said "Good Morning" to. She gave me this nasty look like she was going to say, "eww, an Asian guy is trying to talk to me!", and didn't respond. She doesn't mind being friendly with every other roommate. That's right, I gave a simple "good morning" which was said with a bored look; she was average-looking at best. (
"Biiiiicth, please, I wouldn't want your ugly ass in a million years! Good luck finding some guy who'll support you so you stop mooching off your parents while you pretend to take classes." Unethical, rude women like that are such a turn off.)
Do these people know that it's possible to date interracially without being complete jackasses about it?
I can speak for a lot of Asians when I say that it's not the interracial relationship itself that bothers me, it's the big "f*** you" that *often* comes with it. Whether it's coming from the Asian girl, or a white guy who brags about "saving" an Asian girl from her "oppressive culture", while insulting Asians, and reassuring her of her own ethnicity's inferiority (inferior culture, inferior males, inferior country, etc...). Yeah, of course that annoys me, as it should any reasonable person.
The polite, respectful White/Asian couples I know who don't burn bridges, and don't insult me and/or my race, are perfectly fine with me, and I enjoy their company.
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