i used to read manga on Manga Toshokan, since they don't resize image.
well, no more.
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9:48 pm, Jul 30 2011
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12:03 am, Jul 31 2011
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Quote from mu2020
how could it make reading manga easier?? with physical manga you can read it while on the toilet. and you don't need to be online..
just as for scanlation teams, Online manga readers only help popularize the manga... but for publisher, they are both a gift and a curse ^_^
just as for scanlation teams, Online manga readers only help popularize the manga... but for publisher, they are both a gift and a curse ^_^
Heh, the toilet? That made me laugh, I haven't brought anything other that a magazine in the bathroom since I once dropped a library copy of Gone with the Wind in the tiolet... not a good day, still have never finished that book. Thank goodness nothing was *in* there.
To the topic- 'Readers' have allowed me to discover and follow many excellent (to me at least) series.
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Don't use them and most likely never will.
Besides the often lower quality or annoying content delivery system, I like having content offline so I can watch/read at my own tempo without being dependent on remote machine for the continues delivery (not to mention the annoying loading times).
Besides the often lower quality or annoying content delivery system, I like having content offline so I can watch/read at my own tempo without being dependent on remote machine for the continues delivery (not to mention the annoying loading times).
THIS.
I can't stand them.
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1:09 am, Jul 31 2011
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it made me discover manga. so yeah help popularize.
but after that it makes it easier to read it because i dont have the resources..
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but after that it makes it easier to read it because i dont have the resources..
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4:48 am, Jul 31 2011
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4:48 am, Jul 31 2011
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where's the option 'convenient for reading crap manga not worth downloading' haha.
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6:27 am, Jul 31 2011
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6:27 am, Jul 31 2011
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the real truth is that the world changed and people haven't caught up with times yet, or sometimes doesn't even fully understands what happened
they do hurt the industry, but only because the industry is holding to a format that is gonna decrease if not vanish completely eventually
even if they ain't comfortable placing the latest chapter of <insert famous SJ series here> online now, there's still a catalog of over 40 years of manga, gathering dust, making absolutely no profit when they could be translated and put online for nearly no costs and making advertisement profit
they do hurt the industry, but only because the industry is holding to a format that is gonna decrease if not vanish completely eventually
even if they ain't comfortable placing the latest chapter of <insert famous SJ series here> online now, there's still a catalog of over 40 years of manga, gathering dust, making absolutely no profit when they could be translated and put online for nearly no costs and making advertisement profit
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11:03 am, Jul 31 2011
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Hate them with a passion. Mangafox being the worst of them all. Low quality, most have aboslutly so respect for the scanlators. And they were the ones that tipped the publishers off to us.
I'm a very strong believer that if you like it, buy if you can. There are many reason the publishers aren't doing well, and while I'm certainly not blaming scanlators, it can't be helping. Readers make things too easy, so people have no drive to go out and buy stuff. Maybe if they took a little more time and effort searching for manga they would appreciate it more and buy it. I guess I'm just old fasion, I remember the days when you had to search ages through torrents to find scanlated manga. Now its all a popularity contest between readers and many of these new scanlator groups... But I'm getting off-track aren't I?
Bottom line, no, I hate readers sites and I will never read off them unless it's a last resort to find something. (and even then it leaves a bad taste in my mouth)
I'm a very strong believer that if you like it, buy if you can. There are many reason the publishers aren't doing well, and while I'm certainly not blaming scanlators, it can't be helping. Readers make things too easy, so people have no drive to go out and buy stuff. Maybe if they took a little more time and effort searching for manga they would appreciate it more and buy it. I guess I'm just old fasion, I remember the days when you had to search ages through torrents to find scanlated manga. Now its all a popularity contest between readers and many of these new scanlator groups... But I'm getting off-track aren't I?
Bottom line, no, I hate readers sites and I will never read off them unless it's a last resort to find something. (and even then it leaves a bad taste in my mouth)
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4:36 pm, Jul 31 2011
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I have no idea what this poll means 
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5:04 pm, Jul 31 2011
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well i dnt buy manga -- im broke most of the time so if get money, it goes to needs.
i dnt download manga unless i really really want to read it.
so online manga readers are wonderful imo.
and how wud they threaten scanlations?
i dnt download manga unless i really really want to read it.
so online manga readers are wonderful imo.
and how wud they threaten scanlations?
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8:42 pm, Jul 31 2011
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Hmmm... they're convenient and useful for reading manga that can no longer be found elsewhere. I'm not very interested in registering for some closed hosting community and having to create tons of posts now and then.
I do think that online readers might have increased the publishers' awareness of scanlations but I suspect they've known since a long time ago. 3 to 5 years ago, Snoopycool and maybe a few other groups actually received C&Ds from Japanese publishers.
It's just the manga publishing industry got fed up and decided to be far more aggressive.
I do think that online readers might have increased the publishers' awareness of scanlations but I suspect they've known since a long time ago. 3 to 5 years ago, Snoopycool and maybe a few other groups actually received C&Ds from Japanese publishers.
It's just the manga publishing industry got fed up and decided to be far more aggressive.
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2:22 pm, Aug 1 2011
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Where's the 'all of the above' choice?
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10:50 am, Aug 2 2011
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They're way more convenient especially when I'm too lazy to spend my time downloading something I probably wont ever look at again 
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Things I enjoy:
1. Badassery. I love being, doing, and living it. I also enjoy seeing it as it usually makes me cry man tears.
2. Badassness.
3. Badasses.
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5. Manly badasses.
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2. Girly protagonists (if they're men).
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11:53 am, Aug 2 2011
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I never use online readers. I get easily distracted, and these online readers often have advertisements going on all over the place (well, the ones I've seen have 'em). Other than that, I'm pretty fast at tracking down the manga I'm looking for, so downloading doesn't bother me much. Then I can view the images in full screen too - with a black and calming background. Oo~h, the joy.
Yeah, it's always nicer to read manga in physical form, but I don't have the money to buy all the manga I'm reading.
And the library certainly isn't of any help.
Quote from mu2020
how could it make reading manga easier?? with physical manga you can read it while on the toilet. and you don't need to be online..
Yeah, it's always nicer to read manga in physical form, but I don't have the money to buy all the manga I'm reading.
And the library certainly isn't of any help.
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12:20 pm, Aug 2 2011
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I prefer online readers.
I read manga a lot on my iTouch, and I can't download manga onto it
I have yet to find a way to easily download a RAR or ZIP file onto my iTouch....... then uncompress it and read full quality images that don't need to be full quality because the quality on the itouch is limited.
Online readers have active communities (On top of that, I don't want to sign up for a thousand different scanlator forums instead of just one or two manga hosting forums. And activate a thousand different accounts via email)
They're a good way of picking up new manga
Most of them keep scanlator credits
They load relatively quickly
They don't lag crappy internet connections, unlike downloads
The good ones have minimal ads and also try to make them user friendly
You don't need irc for online readers either... Nor do I have to open 7zip to extract RAR files....
Bleh. I guess you could say that I like online readers because they're a lot less trouble.
But in all honesty, if a scanlator site has a good manga reader, I prefer to use that one instead.
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I read manga a lot on my iTouch, and I can't download manga onto it
I have yet to find a way to easily download a RAR or ZIP file onto my iTouch....... then uncompress it and read full quality images that don't need to be full quality because the quality on the itouch is limited.
Online readers have active communities (On top of that, I don't want to sign up for a thousand different scanlator forums instead of just one or two manga hosting forums. And activate a thousand different accounts via email)
They're a good way of picking up new manga
Most of them keep scanlator credits
They load relatively quickly
They don't lag crappy internet connections, unlike downloads
The good ones have minimal ads and also try to make them user friendly
You don't need irc for online readers either... Nor do I have to open 7zip to extract RAR files....
Bleh. I guess you could say that I like online readers because they're a lot less trouble.
But in all honesty, if a scanlator site has a good manga reader, I prefer to use that one instead.
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11:35 pm, Aug 3 2011
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They hurt the industry and the scanlation scene.
It's not that the the concept of reader sites are the problem, but frequently the reality of it is that scanlators have their credits edited out (unless the reader is run by a scanlator group), cleaners' hard work is made invalid due to lower image quality, and the sites are very visible to industry lawyers because of the high traffic and ad revenue they receive.
Thus, when the lawyers crack down on reader sites, enforcement as a whole becomes stricter. That doesn't necessarily mean that individual scanlation is threatened since it's so difficult to enforce, but it doesn't make things any easier.
That said, though I don't need to use them, they must be very convenient. Ken Akamatsu even talked about them in an interview about scanlation (and why it's so popular)
It's not that the the concept of reader sites are the problem, but frequently the reality of it is that scanlators have their credits edited out (unless the reader is run by a scanlator group), cleaners' hard work is made invalid due to lower image quality, and the sites are very visible to industry lawyers because of the high traffic and ad revenue they receive.
Thus, when the lawyers crack down on reader sites, enforcement as a whole becomes stricter. That doesn't necessarily mean that individual scanlation is threatened since it's so difficult to enforce, but it doesn't make things any easier.
That said, though I don't need to use them, they must be very convenient. Ken Akamatsu even talked about them in an interview about scanlation (and why it's so popular)
