1. Although Utaite Wikia pages are user created, it is strictly moderated so that they all follow a uniform format and template with proper citations and links.
2. The same can be said for Utaite Wikia and Vocaloid Wikia.
3. The same function exists in Wikia's site too
4. Both Utaite Wikia and Vocaloid Wikia also has a huge database that is constantly being updated and added.

Next time, please take an actual look at the Wikia sites before comparing them.



This is just what I gathered from looking at the UtaiteDB's 'Artist' and 'Songs' pages (I only had time to look there today, but they should be the most important parts of the site anyway):

Regarding the 'Artists' page: considering it's called "UtaiteDB," when I'm trying to look up my favourite utaites in the Artist pages, I find it cluttered with non-utaite pages of Producers/Illustrators. In my opinion, that kind of information should be kept separate from the Utaite and probably best kept only at VocaDB since I think the people searching there are only interested in Utaites. I'm also not sure whether the UtaiteDB is aimed at English fans or Japanese fans (in this case, I'm pretty sure Japanese fans have their own sites already) because most the names pages are written only in Japanese which make finding right singer harder for English fans to find. It would really help make things more clear to have English names more prominent. Another thing I don't like is how the Utaite's pages only shows SOME of their songs. A database should try to include as much information as possible. It's annoying and tiresome to have to click on the link in order to find out the English song name or if it's album only because the link title is Japanese only. The songs don't seem to be dated in order either. In addition, it looks like some utaite's album only songs are included in the list of recent PVs. I find that really messy especially since album songs don't have videos and IMO should be kept in a separate section altogether so people use that information if they want to buy their CDs and know what tracks are in their instead of having to click a million links to figure it out. And for the 'Recent Albums' sections, are pictures of the inside CDs really necessary when you already have pictures of the albums covers? Plus the way they are entered look like separate albums when they are really from the same album seems messy. Utaite's collab albums (where they might've only sang 1 or 2 songs out of the entire album) are put side-by-side with their solo albums might confuse people who are only looking to buy albums that only the utaite sang solo. There is also no differentiating Utaites and Youtaites entries which seems messy and may be confusing for some people.

Regarding the 'Songs' page, I also find it cluttered and messy in how the original Vocaloid song is entered as a regular entry along with all the other Utaites. Shouldn't that kind of thing at most be linked back to or kept only separate at the VocaDB? Covers of the same song by different utaites entries are entered all over the place. I think it would be far better and more organized if they were altogether on 1 page with the original Vocaloid cover. Also I noticed utaite album-only songs are included. Again, IMO those type of entries should be kept seperate with the other album only tracks and otherwise people would begin to think you could listen to it online or something. There are also links that go absolutely nowhere on Youtube on those pages. I dislike how the songs titles only show the Japanese names which force you to click on them in order to find their English names which is annoying when you're browsing or searching for a certain song.

This is just my brief review/opinion of what I found at UtaiteDB. I may do one for VocaDB another time if requested (and when I'm less tired).

no idea what you meant by database, wiki is web app collaboration CMS, it's unstructured and based around rich text format pages.
wikis have little implicit structure, structures are user defined and not explicit.
and no wikis and database sites are entirely different.
I'm not trying to argue which is better because they serve different purposes
a database mostly is highly structured and is less useful for long texts/articles
as said by riipah.

I think we're going off-topic on this thread, this is not vocadb.net/utaitedb.net or utaite.wikia.com thread
personally the critic you made on the pages layouts doesn't mean anything to me, all I want to know is all the albums/song made by a specific artist, I don't care if he's main, or not main also he could be a guitarist, animator or illustrator and not necessary a composer/vocalist


maybe you didn't understand what I said, well I did use wikias (utaite and vocaloid ones) to get more detailed informations on specific artists
but they don't have everything there, maybe because I'm following obscure and less popular producers, UTAUs and vocalists
I don't find any trace of them on the english ones and even the japanese or chinese wikis

Thank you for the feedback.


I think including both the vocalists and music makers (producers) is important. You can always filter by just utaite if you're interested in those (just select "Utaite" from the drop down list).


UtaiteDB and VocaDB are aimed at all audiences, both Japanese and English, although there's a slight focus towards western/English users, because there's more sites aimed at Japanese audiences already. Regardless, a significant portion of the users are Japanese on VocaDB at least.


You can choose to view English names by default, by selecting "English" in the account menu on the top. We want to include both original Japanese names as well as English names, and the user can choose which names he/she prefers. This is one of the benefits of such a custom made site - we can cater both audiences.


We're currently making improvements to the search features, and in time will add more options for viewing artists' songs directly on the artist pages as well. For now you can always check the "All songs" tab.


Hmm, I haven't realized someone might be interested in album only songs instead of just hearing some popular/recent songs by the artists. Need to inquire more, and if this is indeed a use case, I believe we can do something to separate them more clearly (it's certainly doable, if needed).


Sorry, can you give me an example? I'm not responsible of the content on UtaiteDB so don't really know what you're referring to.


Currently it works such that if the artist (utaite) has enough solo albums, only those solo albums are displayed in the "recent albums" list. If the artist has only a couple of solo albums, all albums are displayed. But you're right, there could be some indicator which shows whether it's a solo album or collaboration.


There are tags for that, so you can search for just utaites (nico singers) or Youtaites. In the beginning we were considering of having separate root categories for those, but it was decided that it's not necessary and tags should be enough to differentiate those two groups.


Again, this was something that was considered in the beginning, keeping Vocaloid originals on VocaDB, but it was decided to include them on UtaiteDB nevertheless, most likely so that all the different covers could be linked to that original. Vocaloid originals are identified by a tag, although at the moment there's no way to search songs by excluding a specific tag. Maybe we can add that if needed.


Actually, they should be found under the "alternate versions" list on the original song entry. Am I missing something?

TL;DR: the title language issue should be taken care of already, you can choose to display English names instead of Japanese. As for the other issues, I will take those into consideration and show them to the ones responsible of the content on UtaiteDB. Layout and functionality changes are generally easy, we just need to make sure that we're not making things worse.

ok, vocadb now is in dire state
they need capable members, donations and help or they'll have to close.
they are the only most extensive vocaloid database.
more than 13600 artists, 4400 albums, and 50800 songs, you can't find such extensive list of vocaloid related works anywhere else and not on wikis.

I enjoy the concept and when it comes to the music it's either a hit or miss for me. But I greatly admire the creativity of the fans.

The Toyota and pizza sell out didn't bother me, actually thought it was really cute. What I don't like is the mature renditions of her, making her evolve like a human. She's losing her luster, while they're trying to appeal to every audience out there for marketing. Bleh.

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Im not really into Vocaloid that much but I love Meiko, VY2/Yuuma and Mew voices when used really well.

Ive listened to a handful but songs made EZFG and UtsuP suited my taste music