didnt really want to talk about this, but since it's been catching steam in some other countries, i was just curious to see what your guys' opinion to this is. (please be nice)

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It seems pointless to me. I don't see a message, so I'm not sure how it could achieve any coherent goal even if it does manage to create a good scare. It just makes me feel even more like we don't really know anything. Does anyone understand what the fuck's going on in finance? Do economists know or are we all just blindly guessing? Are we really being tricked by people in industry who are just looking after their own asses? I don't really know but I think if there was a clear answer it would've been implemented already because not everyone in government is in a consiracy to screw everyone.

I support it. I dont believe our goverment is being truthful. I dont think the american people's voices are even considered anymore. Which is why this protest is awesome. Everyone feels this way, to the extent that its spreading globally! I hope that one day this will lead to a countries that actually listen to its people instead of a country run by a select few rich old men.

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My English 12 teacher likes to bring in politics and current events.

"Ten per cent of the total personal income in American was taken home by the top 0.1 per cent of earners in 2008"

"The top one per cent took home more than a fifth of all personal income in the US".

"how in hell can anyone accumulate 70 thousand million dollars-- that is 70 billion dollars-- as has Carlos Slim, from Mexico would you believe!"



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Despite being a San Francisco-raised liberal, I find myself oddly skeptical about this whole thing. Really, I'm all for large-scale action, but, it just doesn't really have a point. I mean, if the message was something more concrete than the resounding "we're unhappy with the way things are" I'd probably be right there myself, but unfortunately there are so many disparate hands involved that no one seems to be holding a clear, concise statement of what they're actually trying to accomplish (well, one that the entire protest seems to agree is the point). This is why thesis statements are important, messages already get muddled enough.

The whole thing strikes me as very Hitchhiker's Guide for some reason. "We're unhappy. But we don't know what we want, so we're just going to stand here!" *rabblerabblerabble*

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im all for getting private interest out of goverment i thought people would never address it but better then nothing

Broadly in favour, but I'm not following it carefully.

Occupy Brisbane, however, needs to die a quiet death and stop embarrassing everyone.

Same with Occupy Vancouver. Pointless and useless, with a touch of annoying.

Wow guys, wow. At least we didn't embarrass ourselves like we did in June.

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let me sum up the reason why they first started to begin to protest:
they want to ensure universal healthcare (supreme court judges will be deciding this in a few months)
They want the millionaires of the U.S. to be taxed more (obama's plan)
and they want the Financial district to be more regulated/ be held accountable for their actions (basically they want the Financial district to be held accountable for the housing market crash, and to be regulated after having multiple bailouts)

my opinion is supportive, only thing is i wish the media covered this more seriously, they supported protests in the middle east, but when it comes to domestic protests they seem to denounce them. But i agree that there are alot of people out there to protest for the hell of it, not really knowing what they're protesting for. But for the most part the message is clear.

i find it interesting that as you guys pointed out multiple cities in other countries have started to protest based on the wallstreet protests as well. Curious to see how their media outlets perceive these protests as well.

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See, this is essentially unclear or misinformed. The most common answer to the question "what are these protests for" only concerns the last statement there- the others are just occasionally tacked on, and given that the supreme court isn't exactly ruling on "universal healthcare" as a whole it's a bit fallacious as well.

There seems to be common mention of regulating financial influence in Washington through a presidential order, but honestly I doubt that most of the people properly understand that to be a part of the protest. Just look at the fact that you neglected to mention it at all.

Look, I'm all for pointed messages, but the sum of this one is just "we're unhappy. Someone do something about it" in the vaguest, most general sense.

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But with the way things are going, I'm glad that so many people are raising their voices against it. It sure feels a whole lot like someone digging their heels into the ground while they're being pulled by a tow truck but that's a natural reaction in that kind of situation, and since so many of the problems they're rallying against are connected and in ways that are difficult to change, it's difficult to focus on one problem- I always think of it as janga, because you pull the wrong block and everything falls apart. Yes, the sum is "we're unhappy, someone do something about" but, if a bunch of people are going to camp out for months just to say that vague message then hell, the President should do something about it. I'm coming to this realization that although I'm fairly liberal, the major problems in this country are not exactly left or right, but more of a corruption problem. People want financial regulations through a presidential order because that's why we elected Obama-but nothing is ever going to happen if these kinds of proposals are constantly being rejected by the politicians who are supposed to represent the people. I'm not very politically savy, but I feel like I can't watch the damn news without being suspicious that I'm missing a huge part of whatever story I'm listening to. The protest I think arose because the issues that people are having with this current system is not being properly talked about by the media and politicians and certainly not the assholes on Wall Street who probably dropped pearls into their glasses of champagne. You summed up what they want very well, but I'm hoping that the protests are opening up the discussion of what people really want through public outlets.

well i dont really know how you can regulate financial influence in Washington that sounds like lobbying to me lol, and you're right the Supreme Court isnt exactly ruling on Obamacare as whole, but just like in majority of their cases, they will give their opinion on Obamacare as a whole (as they so often do)....the protesters basically want regulation similar to Canada's. As in they want a wall between Commercial and Investment banking (which is why Canada avoided the banking crash in 08), and which is why Europe is in a midst of a Banking collapse as well (if my memory serves me right), Oh yeah, and they want the major finance companies like Goldman Sachs to be prosecuted, but yeah i agree with you i too have seen some signs that really arent relevant to the initial protests (but alas like all protests usually turn out like this )

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Obamacare =/= universal healthcare. If you look at what it actually does it's really not the same thing. At all.

I don't really get how you can regulate that either (donation caps and the like have historically not worked well), but the originating organizations seem to state that as the purpose for the protest (though without central leadership things have obviously expanded into an absurdly muddled ball of tar), so all your statements about demands would seem to be some of the many mistaken impressions the entire thing has given off. Hence my problem with it.

I was going to launch into a rant about Canadian economics here, but I think I'll drop it because I'm already quite close to straying into a wide digression.

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I agree on the issue of media. It is shocking how they could exclude a guy as popular as Ron Paul, and actually have that affect him in the polls. Makes me wonder what kind of democracy we actually have if we deliberately try to get rid of people who might have new and intelligent ideas. wtf can't you just let people think for themselves??