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6:19 am, Sep 20 2008
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Well, we need some feedback for our new beta recommendation system. We're looking for how useful and accurate it's been in your opinion. Please answer honestly. If you haven't used the recommendation system yet, please refrain from voting until you actually DO use it. We realize that it is still in beta, and this poll is the starting point for making the system better.

For more information about the beta recommendation system, please read this news post: http://www.mangaupdates.com/news.html?id=385

If you have a specific suggestion to make, go ahead and post something in the Suggestions & Bugs forum.

This poll will probably last half a month.

Previous Poll Results:
Question: What's your view on downloading anime/manga?
Choices:
Don't do it. It's baaadddd - votes: 295 (2.7%)
It's alright as long as it's not licensed where I live - votes: 3982 (36.9%)
I can do it all I want! The internet is free! - votes: 6504 (60.3%)
There were 10781 total votes.
The poll ended: September 20th 2008

In my opinion, too many people are greedy little people that feel the internet is just for themselves. Perhaps what happened to the US anime industry will happen to the US manga industry some time in the future
But yeah, being what this site actually is, I wasn't expecting any different from the poll.

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11:33 am, Sep 20 2008
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I didn't like the wording on this poll, the only option for people who download licensed manga was "I can do it all I want! The internet is free!," which is implanting a personality on what in this case should have been impersonal. More options like 'i know its bad but I do it anyway' might have been more productive instead of forcing the majority of voters into the "greedy little people that feel the internet is just for themselves" option.

Post #531575 - Reply to (#531574) by Juneau
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12:48 pm, Sep 20 2008
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I agree with Juneau, most mangas I download are licensed where I live but almost unfindable...

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For me, this poll was place on a site where it links to mangas that links to downloading sites, most of the time. I would have highly expected that result from thsi site. But, for example, if the poll was placed somewhere more public, like yahoo, or something, the results would be completely different. But that's just what I think.

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1:48 pm, Sep 20 2008
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well, for Ping Pong it listed Mahoraba as a recommendation

it really doesn't get any worse than that

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1:55 pm, Sep 20 2008
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I think it would have been more fair if anime and manga had been divided into two categories. To my knowledge people tend to care less if a anime is licensed than a manga being licensed when downloading it.

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3:00 pm, Sep 20 2008
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my opinion, too many people are greedy little people that feel the internet is just for themselves.

Well if you word the choices like that I can understand why you would come to that conclusion. :/ My view is not at all that but that's what I voted for because i do dl it.

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5:58 pm, Sep 20 2008
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Despite being in the majority of the last poll I do spend lots of money on manga. I have over $2000 worth in my room at this moment. It's filling my bookcases and lining the walls. I also have somewhere around 80GB of manga saved to my HD. I might be a big DL but I'm also a big buyer.

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6:54 pm, Sep 20 2008
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I agree with you that the US manga industry will be reformed and follow the path which our anime industry has portrayed. We internet users take advantage of our scanlators, type-setters, editors and etc. we dont give them any recognition for their work, most of us dont give donations, we argue about the rules on the forums that say we have to post a number of times before we can download, and the we B*T*H when anime and manga come out late. If your angry its late find the raw releases online and read it yourself, or learn the language if your so interested.

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7:28 pm, Sep 20 2008
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That's what I did (sorta). Japanese is a damned hard language to learn but most of the manga I read isn't too complicated to begin with. They ain't joking when they talk about how foreign people have trouble because of the kanji. The grammer and honorifics are something else too. Don't have any problems with scanlators of course (hell, all us here should be kissing their asses). Just need to satisfy my curiosity a bit if the latest scanlation ends in a nasty cliffhanger.

People shouldn't be surprised that there is no loyalty to the anime industry and that loyalty to the manga industry is fading fast. Anyone who watched the official One Piece syndication in the U.S. and knew what they were missing can attest to that. Censorship and butchering doesn't exactly discourage people from pirating. Even when a series doesn't have it, people can't help but feel that shadow over the product because of the company's past actions.

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10:55 pm, Sep 20 2008
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I'm like that as well. Of all the manga I've downloaded I have also bought most of it. Most of the manga I have download, but not bought is because it isn't yet avaible in English, but I'd definitely buy it, if it was released in English. There are only a couple of mangas I have downloaded but wouldn't buy, though they are the kind of mangas I've dropped after a while.

The poll should've had an option for "downloading manga and buying it later" or something like that.

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12:32 am, Sep 21 2008
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The only option I could really choose was "I can do it all I want! The internet is free!" It's not like I feel I'm entitled to everything but I sure as hell do "it" a lot and I download plenty of licensed material.

Where was the "I do what I can" option.

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1:01 am, Sep 21 2008
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I dunno about some people, but I don't have cash burning holes in my pockets. Such is the affliction of the unemployed teenager. Unfortunately I'm quite incapable of dealing with work and education simultaneously, and seeing as I don't need to support myself, the latter is more immediately important.

So, I download a lot of manga, a good percentage of it licensed.

Interjection: The internet isn't free.

Anyways, just because I download manga, though, doesn't mean I don't buy it as well. My personal method is to download some titles, and buy others. Again, I don't have tons of disposable income, so it'd be silly to waste what money I do have on books I've already read.

I buy what I can. Over the past couple years, my collection has grown to be respectable, while not huge. Some 150 volumes total, probably. Given the fact that I'm Canadian, and that prices for manga are completely ridiculous here(at least they're reducing the prices for novels, lately...), That's probably well over 1500 dollars over the past few years. It'd probably be very conservative to say that's about half the cash I get my mitts on going to manga. Very conservative. Probably more like 75%.


So yeah, don't insinuate that I'm greedy. Via the internet, I have the means to keep myself entertained, even if I don't have the money to physically put the product in my hands. I'd be a moron not to take advantage of that.

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7:45 am, Sep 21 2008
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I agree with Juneau.
Also, as I think I'd said before, the manga that is licenced is too expensive, and I can only order it online. I'm poor>.<

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10:13 am, Sep 22 2008
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Well, I voted 'It's alright as long as it's not licensed where I live' but given the fact that I live in a non-english country and that the amount of manga my country has licensed is incredibly low... it wasn't that difficult for me to choose.

So yeah, I download a LOT of english licensed mangas without feeling guilty ^^ I do buy the licensed ones available in here, though.

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