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The Lolicon Shotacon Debate

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Post #535044 - Reply to (#535039) by za3bola

1:41 am, Apr 27 2010
Posts: 43

you must stop reading any yaoi with people under 18 then - no more high school romance stories like junjou romantica - derp derp/

perhaps switch to bara where men look like men instead of girly guys.

Post #535045 - Reply to (#535041) by rainexoxo
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1:46 am, Apr 27 2010
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"Once the extremes are gone, won't it stand to reason that the moderates would move up to fill that void and thus become the new extremes. When would it stop?"

Who knows? It would likely progress like this:

Stage 1. It will be really hard to regulate with some manga ending up banned while others getting a temporary "pass" at least until the chapter with some accidental touching/kissing or the dreaded panty shot!

Stage 2. They will just ban every sexual scenario with under 18 characters and as well as characters who only "look" to be under 18.

Stage 3. Why not ban novel with explicit content too? I bet there are plenty of novels that have "illegal" sexual relations between fictional characters. I can only think of one example but I am sure there are plenty. Example: George RR Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire epic. Jon Snow has sexual relations while he is 14, Daenerys Targaryen does when she is 13. It is a fictional medieval setting.

The Japanese politicians themselves don't seem to know what they want to do... Just read this (might be NSFW) article: an-will-include-evangelion/

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Post #535046 - Reply to (#535045) by xtr3m3dude
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1:47 am, Apr 27 2010
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derp beat me to the link.Heh.

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Post #535047
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3:16 am, Apr 27 2010
Posts: 40

... Well first of all, I think most kids who actually read manga online -- Are MATURE enough to understand the difference between fiction and reality. As I've been reading through these arguments, I've come to the realization that there is much bias.
After all, everyone is entitled to what they themselves enjoy to read. Only those with mental illnesses would possibly imagine to 'role play' lolicon or shota.

But anyway, if they ban lolicon and shota, it won't be long before they decide to move on to other things. For example: Yaoi. I understand that many people like this particular genre. I also know that people don't generally come out in public to let people know they actually do.

I think some people are generalizing kids as 'immature' or can't make right decisions. I started reading manga when I was about 12 - 13 yrs old. When I learned what all the genre terms meant, I instantly knew what I wanted to AVOID. Yes, I was actually capable of thinking, mind. Anyhow, I generally avoided anything I found disturbing such as Yaoi, Shounen-ai, Lolicon, etc.

Unbelievable, isn't it?! I was able to make my own decisions.

Post #535048
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all hail schneizel

3:19 am, Apr 27 2010
Posts: 196

Leave it as it is. I'm sick of people trying to censor manga, anime, and doujinshi. Lolicon's okay depending on the situation, and I don't particularly like shota at all, however I like pairings that are. Sebastian/Ciel from Kuroshitsuji for instance. The people who read/watch lolicon and shotacon do it for the pairings, not the loli and shota. A lot of people don't realize that, or even bother to think about it. Don't forget about us.

Post #535049
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4:45 am, Apr 27 2010
Posts: 157

I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to remove the DL's links, to avoid possible problems, but keeping the links in the groups pages so that people can download form the scanlators directly.

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Post #535050
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Pervert lurkasaurs

5:38 am, Apr 27 2010
Posts: 156

The hell!! This is an INFORMATION site! Leave the politics out of it!

Just a bit too into bad things

(and part of the yaoi scanlation group
Post #535051

9:13 am, Apr 27 2010
Posts: 4

please don't take down anything, i get all my info here including loli and shota and there's no where else to go if you decide to take them down, there has to be a way around this so until then, please please please leave your site just as awesome as it is, with EVERYTHING.

Post #535052

11:34 am, Apr 27 2010
Posts: 1

When contemplating my answer to such a perplexing question, I ask myself these first:

- How much of my precious freedom am I willing to give up just to appease a simple minority of people who happen to be offended by the very existence of such content?
- Can they even be appeased at all, or will giving into their demands only embolden them to make ever more restrictive ones?
- Why should I even give in to them to begin with?
- By what right do they have to force their views on others in such an oppressive manner?
- Does such a right even exist in this universe to begin with?

I think not. Do nothing, and go about your daily lives like usual.

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1:06 pm, Apr 27 2010
Posts: 48

you created this site, held it togather long enough to get a billion page views... so i think that i will trust in your judgement... after all its your effort that goes in to maintaing the site so you must love it all as much or more then the rest of us... good luck you will have my support no matter what you judge is the best course of action...

Post #535055 - Reply to (#534952) by za3bola
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Lord of nonsense

1:14 pm, Apr 27 2010
Posts: 1310

Hello... that is what parents are all about, If parents took the time to check WTF their child's are doing, then those alarmist bastards wouldn't complain...

So a kid rapes a class mate... who is to blame? the Video Game, the TV or the fucking parents?

Want to help kids? start to use your fucking parental controls... my little sister can use this PC and search for anything in the web, But I can see where she goes and when... so if she starts to go into porn sites, I will notice it (and I did).

Want to protect children? then give parents the tools, and the reason to protect them.

I say if a kid murdered another one, not only the child should be punished, but also the stupid parents that saw the signals and didn't do anything about it.

There is parental control for TV, there is parental control for PC... so why are we being stupid about this?

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Post #535056

1:24 pm, Apr 27 2010
Posts: 5

Leave it as it is. This is a manga database site after all. It would be pointless if you guys start to censore stuff.

Post #535057

1:27 pm, Apr 27 2010
Posts: 19

Isn't it possible to change from Google Adsense to another?

MU is popular so maybe even with another company you can still mange?

Hope everything works out for you

Post #535058 - Reply to (#535057) by Hito-Shura

3:23 pm, Apr 27 2010
Posts: 7

Fight da Powa! We don't need Google!

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Post #535059

4:19 pm, Apr 27 2010
Posts: 4

...(based on current poll results), would it at least be possible to add an option to filter them from the Releases list, or to filter out all doujinshi? It would make the list a whole lot easier to read if not looking for doujinshi.

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