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Post #535105
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6:42 pm, Apr 30 2010
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That's the problem with some super company with shady rules, which can choose to remove you from ad sense and prevent a big source of income to sites with no explanation. I mean MU doesn't host anything illegal, and even if it did a warning before just removing would be a much better option. The problem is google can do what ever the hell they want, pretty much piss on whatever site, and there's nothing you can do about it, it's hard to understand what's the address to even post a complaint.

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12:24 pm, May 1 2010
Posts: 24


Lolicon and Shotacon... lemme think... ew.
But that guy who posted the article in the first place... asshole. And hypocrite. I think removal of all links to the websites and getting rid of some of the pictures that are too explicit should do the trick >>

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3:23 pm, May 1 2010
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Where is the link for the poll? I'd like to place my vote but I can't find the poll.

Post #535108 - Reply to (#535107) by flamehazexxx
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6:28 pm, May 1 2010
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The poll is over... That's why you can't find it.

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Post #535109 - Reply to (#535108) by Toto
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6:54 pm, May 1 2010
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I see, that sucks. thanks

what was the end result?

Post #535110 - Reply to (#535109) by flamehazexxx
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10:21 pm, May 1 2010
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Question: What should MangaUpdates do about Shotacon/Lolicon? (see news post for more information)
Choices:
Nothing, leave it as is - votes: 8235 (55.2%)
Remove all links to websites hosting these genres, but keep series information - votes: 2642 (17.7%)
Remove these genres and all series and information related to them - votes: 1195 (8%)
I don't care - votes: 2836 (19%)
There were 14908 total votes.
The poll ended: May 1st 2010

Post #535111 - Reply to (#535101) by saklea
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10:39 am, May 2 2010
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The main problem I have with your statement is that it is completely untrue. To me it is not about the legality of lolicon and shotacon but rather that a country feels justified in pressuring another country to change their policies just because something offends their sensibilities. You can make lolicon and shotacon illegal in your own country you have no right dictating the policies of another country. It is like saying me saying I do not like red hair so therefore noone else can have red hair because it offends me.

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Post #535112 - Reply to (#535111) by demon_god03
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3:00 pm, May 2 2010
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And why is it untrue? It's his opinion. You have yours and yours is not the absolute truth.
In those countries point of view, depicting kids having sex is not acceptable, so they will pressure japan. IF china was killing homossexuals or something like that, they would suffer the same pressure, even if it was a cultural thing.

Post #535113 - Reply to (#535112) by se7a
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3:40 pm, May 2 2010
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Again, there are two issues. First of all, we are talking drawings, ie. not real kids but ink on paper (or pixels on computers) if they were filming real children in pornography then I would be more inclined to concur. If as much effort was focused on censoring the Catholic Church when one of their priests molests children or cases of teenage prostitution, then maybe that effort would translate into something tangible in terms of protecting minors. As it is, it just translates to the Japanese being forced into censoring anime like Evangelion and Doraemon. Secondly, again we are doing with one country who does not like the laws of another country and deciding to put pressure so the other country conforms with their own boundries of comfort. We are not dealing with mass murder or even with real children being abused. Japan already has laws concerning depiction of real minors in pornography but again said restrictions, like in other countries, just did not apply to drawings.

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Post #535114 - Reply to (#535113) by demon_god03
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3:43 pm, May 2 2010
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sorry for double post but there does not seem to be an edit function:
"Secondly, again we are dealing with one country who does not like the laws of another country and deciding to put pressure so the other country conforms with their own boundries of comfort."

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Post #535115
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3:56 pm, May 2 2010
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I love masturbating to lolicon and especially shotacon(seriously, you should go check that last Kinoshita doujinshi).So NO, leave everything as it is

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4:05 pm, May 2 2010
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what the hell happend to "dont like it, then dont look at it"

Post #535117 - Reply to (#535116) by tonyandbob
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1:16 am, May 3 2010
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my sentiments exactly, i dont like the stuff not my cup of tea but i wouldnt ban it, thats just supressing someone else for my own tastes, thats straight bull man, i support you manga updates!!!! haha

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Post #535118 - Reply to (#535113) by demon_god03
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5:15 pm, May 3 2010
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Yeah, just imagine if some major Muslim country such as Saudi Arabia pressured the West to ban all porn since it's against their law... And if they wanted their arguments could be backed by actual economic measures, not just moral suasion.
'Tis a slippery slope indeed...

Post #535119 - Reply to (#535114) by demon_god03
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11:25 am, May 4 2010
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And that just how the world goes. People have different views on right and wrong. Some people think freedom and respect of cultural ways is the right thing, some don't. No use crying if you are the minority. Just complying with it is just way much better than having this site down

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