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Post #538585

5:00 pm, Nov 5 2011
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The 17.7%, as of now, who voted "Yes, and I'm not Japanese" words. You can't tag an entire COUNTRY as morally superior/inferior.

Post #538586 - Reply to (#538582) by aries_girl

5:04 pm, Nov 5 2011
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And here comes a US moral standard that is always talk about racist or non racist value. Talking about moral standard are not racist, and speaking that someone is morally superior or not is not considered racist. Well US always feel that they are morally superior than the rest of the world (if you consider that most of them have a tendency that money are superiority. Ah I forgot, who export capitalization of everything to the rest of the world).

Post #538587 - Reply to (#538582) by aries_girl
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5:06 pm, Nov 5 2011
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this isn't racist, if the poll was are Japanese people inferior that would be racist. Even saying that one group is morally Superior over another isn't racist it just means that they have better morals. that said the US in general have terrible system of morals but the Japanese aren't much better (but they like to appear like they are). Look at Sumo its all about purity and it is full of corruption all the way up to the highest levels, people who publicly attempt to defame Sumo often mysteriously die. If the police cant solve a murder they often label it as an accident in order to keep their statistics up.

Post #538588 - Reply to (#538581) by fossilblue
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5:16 pm, Nov 5 2011
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It's not very wise to base your opinion of groups of people on just one or two event. That's how stereotypes happens.

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Post #538589 - Reply to (#538579) by dosky

6:52 pm, Nov 5 2011
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That's not the only reason it's weighted more...

Post #538590
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7:34 pm, Nov 5 2011
Posts: 126

Sorry but this is incredibly stupid. People in the same country can have vastly different opinions on various moral issues. Depending on your views some things are done right and some things aren't. How can you just generalize an entire country like that?

Post #538591 - Reply to (#538586) by bakaliner

7:55 pm, Nov 5 2011
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You know, it's not good to generalize about the Japanese - but as someone from the US, I'd like to ask you not to generalized about us either. Sure, we definitely have more than our fair share of arrogant assholes who try to push their own version of morality on everyone else. But people like that exist in every single country in the world. As do people who are reasonable, likable people. People in the US tend to be overly sensitive about racism because we have a terrible history when it comes to that, and we don't want to slide backwards.

On a broader note, the entire concept of considering an entire country of people morally superior or inferior to another is total bullcrap. You can't make a judgement call on millions of people like that. Even if you're comparing two countries who you are extremely intimately familiar with, you still can't just decide that everyone in one group is "morally superior" to the everyone in the other. The concept of "moral superiority" in and of itself is highly subjective and mainly used to hurt, not help, other people.

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8:39 pm, Nov 5 2011
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just to clarify: I vote for "no, and I'm not Japanese" because people everywhere are generally the same. There are many people with low morals, and many with high, and the most of us are... just plain usual. And all this quantity is randomly spread on the surface of our planet. Oh, and even more. What is moral? It changes with flow of time, and continues to change...

Post #538593 - Reply to (#538586) by bakaliner
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8:41 pm, Nov 5 2011
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For the record, moral superiority has nothing to do with money. America's economy's going broke, so good luck with them being "superior" under your definition. Perhaps racist wasn't the right term, but the implication of any group whether it be Japanese, or American being "morally superior" allows for oppression of the other group since if they're not superior, they're inferior since they aren't at the same level.

Post #538594 - Reply to (#538576) by RilleL
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9:51 pm, Nov 5 2011
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lol what. I agree that they're not morally superior, but they're not morally inferior either. How can you generalize a whole ethnicity of people based on something like that?

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9:52 pm, Nov 5 2011
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This is a bad idea. You can't use this for evidence in a paper, no one would accept the validity. It's an optional poll with biased sample. There's no way to use the data for anything based in reality. If I were professor receiving a paper with this data, I would mark down the student severely for attempting to pass off skewed results as unbiased fact. Unless, of course, it was specifically a paper about the patrons of mangaupdates, and even then, I would be highly skeptical.

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9:59 pm, Nov 5 2011
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This... this is just awful. ._.

I mean... a UNIVERSITY paper...... Just... wtf!?!? Seriously!? =_=

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Post #538597 - Reply to (#538581) by fossilblue

10:16 pm, Nov 5 2011
Posts: 32

Japan has a massive infrastructure and training for the general public for how to act in these situations. In New Orleans one of the poorest areas were hit and no one knew what to do.

Post #538598
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10:56 pm, Nov 5 2011
Posts: 55

The fuck? The fact that someone is actually asking this question makes my mind boggle. The Japanese are just people like the rest of us.

Post #538599
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12:04 am, Nov 6 2011
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Without knowing exactly what BokoLife has to write the essay about, I'm still going to say that the way this poll is framed comes very close to endorsing racism, one way or the other. I'd feel more comfortable answering a question about cultural norms and how morality is framed within these norms. (e.g., "Does the practice of Bushido encourage moral straightforwardness?" "What does moral straightforwardness mean in (whatever context)?" "Does Shinto place any moral advantage to "good" kami over "bad" kami?" and similar questions). I do not think any one particular culture holds the moral high ground (nor do I think any one particular culture holds the moral low ground). But I do think that there are good decent folk in any culture, and evil people spring up in any culture.

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