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Post #26641 - Reply to (#26022) by palabasa
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7:59 am, Jul 13 2007
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This is hilarious..

My little made up story, and already.. the commotion

Though my opinion is...

what are your peoples wanted endings?

mine

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Suzuka dies in car crash....

Yamato gets back with (the girl who tried to comfort him with her body, forgot her name confused )

HAPPILY EVER AFTER!!



I say fuc* yeah but do not want Yui!! Bring Honoka back!!!!


is honoka the 1st GF?the one who became the model? then i'll back you up!! biggrin




Yeah she's also the nicest and greatest. No dere dere stuff like Suzuka.

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you mean tsuntsun...anyway that's what i like about her. i don't like passive girls like honoka. i've always prefered the more lively ones especially tsundere characters biggrin

Post #26692 - Reply to (#26373) by Emperorpogi
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Hey if you were a girl, lost your virginity in an Un-Romantic way, would you not try to forget about it? Try to renew your virginity status with a happier way? Also if you were in her position, telling yamato she slept with someone else would pretty much make their relationship much more problematic.

Also, what if Suzuka slept with Arima when she came to Japan before Yamato even asked Suzuka to be his Girlfriend. (Remember Arima went to go to this "little" visit to Yamato's school? What if he is just trying to talk about what happened that "night" with Suzuka?

See, just putting logical facts that could be played in.


you have a point there man...but i dont really believe this manga is at that kind of level, where the female lead betrays the main man and have sex with a different guy...they even didnt show it..its just that this is still a shounen, maybe if its a seinin that kind of thing could happen...

and i dont think suzuka is that easy, she had a hard time giving up her 1st love giving yamato a chance..it would not be right to give herself to another man, her lover's rival at that...

someone said that you'll be an idiot not to notice a virgin, well realistically its not that easy...hymen tend to vanish for active women, and as a serious athlete, suzuka might not have hers already despite the fact that she havent done it with anyone...or on the contrary, even if she might have done it with arima once, she might still bleed when she'd done it with yamato..she'll be practically a virgin still...

so your theory might be a possibility...there's this mysterious relationship between arima and suzuka, quite puzzling that arima was just asking about yamato as what suzuka said, and arima is appearing more regualrly in the story so a romantic rivalry is edging in the picture...

i just dont agree...cant take it man...
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Yo pipol. I'm pretty sure you guys and gals have read the latest chapter..ch156

The startling revelation of Suzuka's condition. We're pretty sure of whose the
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father of the child she's carrying


So let's create a conflict situation.
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Continuing on from the tryst Arima and Suzuka had in the US. Suzuka becomes Yamato's girlfriend (because she still loves him). She does, however, keeps it a secret from Yamato that she had sex with Arima. They both continue their romance. They finally have sex (during this time, she is already pregnant with Arima's child). So goes on the deception. The story continues to ch155. She confesses that she's pregnant but doesn't tell Yamato who the real father is. Suzuka feels guilty for not being able to tell Yamato her secret. (ch156) Yamato is feeling guilty for having sex with her for various reasons. Continuing with the events in ch156.


So here's the question. What should Yamato do when he finds out that he's not the
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a. Break up with Suzuka and make Arima take responsibility
b. Continue the relationship but not take responsibility for the baby (It not his anyway)
c. Continue the relationship and accept everything
d. Get reven by getting drunk and have accidental sex with Miki (she's fairly into Yamato anyway) then break up with Suzuka (the reason being ergo sex with her bestfriend)

I like D. It has a certain charm to it (for all the Suzuka haters out there).

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my question (and I'm sure it was probably already asked...) is how did she not know? confused

now I'm not a girl or a gynecologist or anything but I think know enough about the female body to know that something "appears," something else "disappears."


and I highly doubt she did anything with Arima. it just doesn't seem to be in her character. no

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lol interesting options, I would say it would have to be more towards A but Arima wont want to do so, so they have some sort of challenge wager or whatever, the winner of the next championship race or whatever gets Suzuka. That way the sports part kicks in again with relationship backing like it always has been except for a few parts.

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why does everybody have to include this Arima guy? Arima this and Arima that, i mean, he's only a minor character. i really dont think that guy is important in the story, maybe, just a rival of sort. suzuka is 3 months pregnant? c'mon, 3 months? and she looks pretty slim to me. there's only 2 possibilities to why she said she is 3 months pregnant. 1) she's just testing again yamato's love for her 2) she really is pregnant with yamato's genes (not Arima, why Arima?). if its (1), she'll probably get an answer from yamato when they meet in the festival, yamato saying i'll be with you till the end no matter what with decide or what happens which will make suzuka really happy. and if its (2), its gonna be a long, hard journey for this two but im pretty sure they'll manage. yamato may even become more of athlete than he has ever become that can inspire people and win many competitions, while suzuka supporting him all the way.

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Suzuka will never really support Yamato becuae she is a crazy girl with some weird issues. You can trace this fact all the way through the story to the beginning.

I think everyone brings up Arima, because:
1. He was seen suspiciously talking to Suzuka at the shoe lockers and immediately left when Yamato showed up.
2. He went to America with Suzuka for a year
3. Other characters (the old captains) keep bringing him into the story for no good reason.
4. They were walking down the street together at the end of the last chapter.

Those are all valid reasons to consider him as a fairly important character, especially when the street scene was the last "cliffhanger".

Also Suzuka is not a real person, she is a drawing. We won't be able to see her getting plump with widdle babay until the Manga-ka decides to draw her getting plump.

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) she's just testing again yamato's love for her

though this is a possibility because, as alluded to above, she is a psycho chick.

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Suzuka will never really support Yamato becuae she is a crazy girl with some weird issues. You can trace this fact all the way through the story to the beginning.

I think everyone brings up Arima, because:
1. He was seen suspiciously talking to Suzuka at the shoe lockers and immediately left when Yamato showed up.
2. He went to America with Suzuka for a year
3. Other characters (the old captains) keep bringing him into the story for no good reason.
4. They were walking down the street together at the end of the last chapter.

Those are all valid reasons to consider him as a fairly important character, especially when the street scene was the last "cliffhanger".

Also Suzuka is not a real person, she is a drawing. We won't be able to see her getting plump with widdle babay until the Manga-ka decides to draw her getting plump.


you got that right man!!!

i suspect that arima will be a love rival if not already...its all speculation about arima having a go with suzuka even before yamato and him being the "father" of the "pregnant" suzuka(note the"")..despite all this speculations, i believe arima likes suzuka and maybe he wants to fight yamato "fairly" for suzuka..and that's why he's encouraging him to be a better athlete...who ever wins at sports, wins suzuka...something like that...

i'm still hoping that yamato is her first and if she's preggy, its yamato's definitely...

on the other hand, i'm having this weird vibes against suzuka. ever since she got back from the states and got back with w/ yamato, she never looked like a happy and in-love person(she might be that way since the start of the story though). she kind of look guilty and suffering..yup, she really might be hiding something, even before this pregnancy thing came up...or maybe she's just a mentally unstable person, wacko huh?

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I still don't see why Arima should be considered,

Yeah, there have been moments in the show where the two were seen talking and he was in America with her, but why bring in Arima if the timeline makes perfect sense.

It is true that a person's character could change, but the mangaka did that, he/she would lose a significant amount of fan support. If Suzuka is pregnent with someone else's child, then that is just stupid.

Personally, Arima in introduced as a outside sempai who would give advice (helpful or not) to Yamato. Yamato's character is one that relies a bit on other's advice and you could see that from the event that brought on this problem.

I just would like to see that the author doesn't destroy the credibility of the characters he/she built for so many chapters.

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hahah I suppose that it's true, but I guess as fans, we're all like, DRAMA!!

hahaha

...but y'know if he did write it like that, he has to come up with some clear psychological disturbance that made Suzuka do that... it's like, the reason why Suzuka wouldn't get together with Yamato in the first place -- she was such a bitch, but by the end, I understood her. I could forgive her for treating Yamato like crap. Haha...

<_<;;; lol. I'll be happy either way... whether or not Yamato really is the father. XD

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As much as we all like drama...

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The baby is Yamato's. 99.9% certain.

To move Suzuka into such a storyline (as having Arima be the father) would destroy the tone the manga has had over the past, what, 16 volumes. Yes, Suzuka has had its serious drama parts, but to go into such territory would break from how the manga has been thus far (and, of course, it'd lose quite a few fans).

Arima's going to end up being a rival-turned-friend character, mainly to support Yamato because if Yamato left track, Arima wouldn't have competition anymore.


What's probably going to happen is Yamato's going to spill what happened to Arima, Arima's going to have a *shocked* face, and then he's going to calm down and direct Yamato to talk to Suzuka to see how she feels.

Arima might do that, as person is leaving, give your true thoughts, and tell Yamato to convince Suzuka to take the abortion in order to not jeopardize both of their Track-and-Field careers.



Suzuka's obviously going to want to keep it, by the way.


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as i say i like that yamato is now using his head and not a clumsy and irresponsible dis tym and but only one think i didnt like in 156 is wen he says that abortion is the the way to solve the problem but it will happen to me i will accept the born baby and i will try not to be irresponsible father to that baby...

i wish that yamato can really knw what she do to suzuka...

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as i say i like that yamato is now using his head and not a clumsy and irresponsible dis tym and but only one think i didnt like in 156 is wen he says that abortion is the the way to solve the problem but it will happen to me i will accept the born baby and i will try not to be irresponsible father to that baby...

i wish that yamato can really knw what she do to suzuka...



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i think that u have misread the chapter cause it was suzuka who started talking about the abortion, yamato doesnt want to do it cause he is afraid that it will hurt suzuka's body.


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Post #27507 - Reply to (#26708) by flame of illusion
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my question (and I'm sure it was probably already asked...) is how did she not know? confused

now I'm not a girl or a gynecologist or anything but I think know enough about the female body to know that something "appears," something else "disappears."


I agree with flame, I think that 2 consecutive months without a period would send any normal girl running as fast as she can to the nearest pharmacy for a pregnancy test (especially since Suzuka isn't a virgin anymore). I mean there was no reason for her to be on the pill (again...since she was a virgin) & if she was she shouldn't be pregnant.

Most likely the doctor was a complete idiot (or he got the test results mixed up). Cuz i don't think Suzuka would lie about a pregnancy (since she was willing to run away from home to be by Yamato's side ).

And if indeed she is pregnant that just makes her an idiot who has no clue about a woman's body (but she dosn't seem like the type not to notice that she isn't bleeding from between the legs like she was suppose to).

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