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6:28 am, Jul 6 2012
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Hello, I need to wright up a debate on wether or not marriage between the same sex should be allowed. It is for a school thing. So, please say why you agree or why not, I also would like to know what you think about homosexuals in general as well as your age, as an argument against homosexual marriages is that children have to have a mother and a father in order to develop properly and so I would like to see what each generation thinks about homosexual parents and the like.

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Sorry but you're misinformed about needing a father and a mother argument. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-sexual-continuum/200 811/why-not-allow-gay-marriage

Anyway back to the topic at hand, I am 29, married by the Catholic church, but I believe gay marriage should be allowed. It is a civil union between two consenting adults wanting the same rights and privileges as everybody else.

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6:55 am, Jul 6 2012
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homosexual marriage yes.
Gay marriage no.

Gay lifestyle is not MARRIED lifestyle. its just the WRONG word for homosexuals who want to marry.

people are gay because they are happily unmarried man. but the marrying ones want kids and stuff... its just not gay.

The term is obsolete.

But everyone should have the right to the same protections if they are willing to commit to the pairing.

Hell If we had gay married couples adopt our teen pregnancy births that might be ideal.

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Awesome, thanks Charlox, saved my hide there, and made room for other stuff.

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7:15 am, Jul 6 2012
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Obviously, yes.
What does two homosexuals who want to be married have to do with the other people (who aren't in their relationship)? Absolutely nothing.

The only ones who are "against" it are most likely bound by their bible... (Although from the previous comment some religious people don't have a problem with it)

It's either the former or just pure ignorance.

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Well, I'm all for same-sex marriage, In my country it's allowed, I'm not religious and I don't think homosexuality is abnormal.

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Which to be clear, I consider Gay to be a term like Single.

A single person is well, seeking a person of the opposite gender, and a Gay person is well, single and seeking a person of the same gender.

its purely a social reaction term, how they want society to react to them, and once they are married they are no longer 'Gay' but 'married'.

and theres probably a 'committed relationship' stage in between being gay and being married.

Not the point of the discussion, pure grammar nazi BS and I know it. But I feel that once people are married to allow for better adoption, they should no longer be considered gay.

"GAY MARRIAGE" implies you want to keep it apart from Regular marriage.

I want there to be only one marriage, impossible to keep apart. whether or not the partners were the same gender or not.

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11:19 am, Jul 6 2012
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Yes. Personally I don't find marriage that romantic or really important, but it'd be sad if you couldn't marry the person you love for reasons that in the end don't matter. Love is love, you don't get to choose who or which gender you are attracted to so why should you suffer for it?

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Well, Im religious (Lutheran) and I see no problem with marriage between two people of the same sex. In all honesty, its a union between two people that love each other. As long as its consensual on both sides, I'm all for it!
Also, for Christians to go against it, they should really open their bibles as it says, point blank : 'Cast the first stone if you are free from sin.' So, those who think they have a right obviously don't and should leave the happy LGBT couples alone to be happy.

But if this has to do with YAOI/YURI manga, ew no. Only because it's usually so graphic that only people with steel stomachs can handle it bigrazz

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So, please say why you agree or why not, I also would like to know what you think about homosexuals in general as well as your age, as an argument against homosexual marriages is that children have to have a mother and a father in order to develop properly ...

I am nineteen years of age with three years worth of college education. I am against homosexual marriages because of how it will create vulnerable conflicts with other opposing laws relating to marriage.

There was an old thread on this same forum-section which had been removed due to a member who managed to anger many of its thread visiting posters including a homosexual administrator (my assumption due to how the admin was defending homosexuals). I am not sure how the thread began because it was so heavily populated with posts - but by the nearing end of that thread, it was clear that the main secular argument for limiting homosexual-couples to opposite-sex couples was the common "producing offspring" rationale. The opposing member's mentality was that marriage is properly limited to opposite-sex couples because they, and only they, can engage in procreation when they have sex - within their union.

I believe that if Homosexual-marriages are to be accepted, then Incestuous-marriages or even Polygamy would as-well be accepted due to laws being distorted for ones exceptionable rule.

Polygamy & Incestuous-marriages denies many "men" access to a mate. I would like someone here to explain - why two brothers cannot marry? Or why two sisters cannot marry, or why a sterile brother and sister cannot marry, or why two male cousins cannot marry, etc. After all, if marriage is truly a fundamental freedom, and it all that matters is LOVE, than why can't they marry?

We do understand we aren't living in an age of slave-harems and whatnot. What about a woman's right to choice? I guess it should be legal for a woman, as a consenting adult, to marry another woman, but if a woman - a consenting adult - chooses to marry into a polygamous relationship, that would be considered very bad because it, in the big picture, denies heterosexual men an access to a mate. And with that in mind, it isn't about a woman's free choice to do that. It is about, in the big picture, "men being denied access to a mate."

When homosexual-marriages are accepted in all areas of the world, all hell will break loose. But maybe this will be necessary outcome for things to subside in the very end.

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Quote from Azula
I am nineteen years of age with three years worth of college education. I am against homosexual marriages because of how it will create vulnerable conflicts with other opposing laws relating to marriage.

There was an old thread on this same forum-section which had been removed due to a member w ...

So, you have a problem with Polygamous marriage and Incestual marriage, therefore you want to ban Homosexual marriage to fix the problem.

Anything else you want to blame on Homosexuality while we're at it? Murder? Rape? War?

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5:54 pm, Jul 6 2012
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I am for the legalization of this.

The slippery slope argument (legalizing homosexual marriage will pave the way for bestiality or polygamy, etc.) is a deeply flawed concept based on fearmongering and generally bad logic overall. The legalization of homosexual marriage is based on the concept of equality, just as the Civil Rights and Women's Suffrage movements were.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJPm52rmKYI

(a much better expression than I am capable of)

Religious arguments against it hold no ground, as the 1st amendment (if we're talking about the US) clearly separates Church and State, therefore barring the State from basing its laws on the beliefs of a religion that is against homosexuality.

In the end, I don't see why people are making such a big deal out of the acceptability of gay marriage. Homosexual individuals will continue to be homosexual, heterosexual individuals will continue to be heterosexual, and humanity will be perfectly able to continue on without going extinct or imploding somehow.

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It's as sensitive as the abortion issue. There are several aspects we should to consider like human rights, civil rights, moral, religious, etc., and obviously the last ones aren't very supportive. If it's a very important dissertation you should consider the ones that support your stand the most and/or show why the others aren't suitable in the terms of modern society; otherwise, I'd recommend you to be more specific and choose just one. You're going to prove your position at the end.

Reminded me of school debates where you had to defend a point of view (not necessarily yours) as an exercise.

Given your task, this video can help you out, at least in the civil rights.

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6:24 pm, Jul 6 2012
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i think homosexual marriage is kool ^_^...my reason is LOVE !!!! there is nothing wrong with same gender marry !!! people all have the right to love and to marry...i don't think they deserve to be treated with hate and disgust !!! biggrin

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6:24 pm, Jul 6 2012
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I'm definitely for equal marriage- but since the term 'marriage' seems to bear heavy religious connotations, I believe that 'marriage' should be replaced by another more secular term for the formal partnership between two consenting adults.

I don't understand how or why an educated person would hold views against equal marriage, unless they are disguising their religious views under the cloak of 'being educated' (eerily reminds me of those Westboro bozos...). no

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