I avoid Mangafox as mutch as i can i got a virus there ones that took me 2 days to get rid of i use manga.animea.net most if the time

He has the right to his opinion,
your burning anuses do not not refute his opinion.


Any translator saying they gain nothing and there are no strings attached,
should release all their stuff anonymous, even if they get no money,
they're whoring karma, like youtube subscriptions.
Nobody cares who the typesetter was or who translated what.
They're just forcing themselves. Either they stop acting like saints
or stop playing martyrs altogether.


As for reading manga via browsers, don't know why anyone would bother doing so.
The image quality is lossy and you have to load the images. Kinda like listening
to music on youtube or even worse, watching anime via stream sites,
while drinking your soda warm.

I personally use IRC for new releases and archives like mangatraders for stuff that can't
be found otherwise due to group disbandment and/or the releases being nearly ancient.

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Not every scanlation group is getting profits from Batoto.
Sure, they may ask scanlation groups whether or not to host their stuff, but Batoto still carries the same purpose as a MangaF & MangaH. That is to make money off of work that isn't originally their own by copyright.

If sales drop significantly because of these popular online reading sites, it wouldn't matter how "nice" a website is. A website containing copyrighted images will be regarded the same and things will reach towards to same plain field as megaupload.com

Unappreciative schmuck... It takes a lot of time, effort, and money to scanlate series. Scanlators aren't paid for their services; donations and such only go towards purchasing raws and server/domain costs. Be thankful that there are so many talented people who provide a free service. Be thankful that they (for the most part) provide quality and timely work.
Also, the ads on scanlator sites and Batoto usually don't even cover server/domain costs. AFAIK, the owner of Batoto spends a lot of his own pocket money to keep the site going.


Firstly, read above [second paragraph]. Secondly, are you fucking kidding me? Scanlation groups are not out to make money, neither is Batoto (and they don't). These sites do not affect sales. Scanlators do not scanlate series that are licensed in their respective countries (OneManga incident). The series that they work on are not available to their readers. Scanlators purchase the raws from, say, Japan, scan and translate, and then share with people who can't read Japanese.

Admin(s), there have been enough of these pointless threads. They simply fill with degenerates and ingrates who argue without purpose or references. Please lock this thread.

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@Mamsmilk: Of course he has. And I have too. As do you and... "Your burning anuses"? Where did that come from?

I did not refute his opinion, I simply told him that he is stupid. I could have written those very very long post with my reasons, but I chose to simply write what those posts would mean.

I never said I gain nothing by scanlating. I wouldn't do it if it was so... I gain appreciation, and however hard it is to believe, there are still some people who care about who the translator is.

I'm not acting like a saint or a martyr. If I'm acting like something, it's the devil. If I'm offered money, I answer, that I don't need it. I fullfill their wishes purely out of my own amusement, and as a price I ask for something they can't sell to anyone else.

ps.: Just to make sure... I was talking about myself, and not all scanlators in general.

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Firstly, I am not attacking scanlation groups. I am attacking all online readers in general. And secondly, are you f**king kidding me? Some scanlation groups are out there to make money. Maybe you are too blind to see it. Not ALL but SOME. So don't use that language with me. And how can you have the audacity to say to me that Batoto (same as MangaHere, MangaFox, MangaStream, MangaInn, MangaReader, etc) doesn't effect sales negatively?

If every single one of these online reading sites stopped hosting all the popular Japanese series and redirected their viewers automatically to Jmanga or some place to buy the latest chapter, you'll see how the sales will rise.

There is a small gradual decline in sells in Japan when it comes to purchases of "popular" volumes. These declining readers know that they could just go online and find it on an illegal online reading platform.

I am leaving scanlators out it. There was in no way I was attacking scanlators. I used to be a scanlator myself. I am attacking online reading sites who still host series that is already lincesed in a certain language already. It would be understanding if I didn't see English translated Naruto releases on Batoto, but non-the-less I do see it; which confirms my priority claims.

Because you're butthurt or more like butt-devastated. Why else would you turn offensive on him? Or are you whiteknighting someone?


Well, there you answer it yourself.


Yeah and I never included your name in that statement either, better not put it there.


O-kaaay...




Too bad all your phrases start with the word I, can't really save much sanctity of others with your reasoning then.

I always download manga if possible, for the future when this all becomes illegal and junk.

I think it would be nice if they went and donated to the scanlators at least. Just a little bit to help purchase the materials needed and pay for the site. But noooo, a few bucks here and there is a little to much to ask for. Pretty short sited, after all, if the scanlators stop scanning because of monetary issues then what are mangafox and mangahere going to get their views from? No scans=no viewers=no reason to have ads on the site=no money for them. Just $3200 of the profit a month spread among the community can go a long way.

Uh...is it just me, or is this thread turning into a big debate? Anyway, there's a bunch of compliments recommending Batoto so I guess I'll try to use that manga site from now on.

I've been using Kissmanga and Unixmanga, but I'm not actually too sure how things go on there. Better to be on safe side, I guess.

Tbh I've been having mixed feelings about JanimeS aka Sura's Place, since they didn't want any of their stuff to be hosted on other sites (Their projects have been hosted anyway) and it was a lack of convenience since that meant I had to download all their projects. I guess I kinda undestand why one would make such rules.

...Well, I just wanted to spread the word about these sites.

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Are you sure that Grumpy(or is there another owner?) pays money from his own pocket? Thats the news for me as I read in (Batoto) forums that they were stable thanks to grumpy's server deals and revenue from ads. I am confident that the ad-revenue is MORE than enough to pay for servers and other costs (if any).
There are many mangas whose revenue goes to batoto as the groups responsible are either closed or not interested in batoto's ad revenue policies.
Somehow it feels as if you are trying to save batoto's name by using such sentences. Please provide adequate sources for the above if you want to put such a statement. I am not against Batoto as long as it helps scanlators. From POV people sould only use the methods approved by scanlators and nothing else.

For me, batoto isn't convenient to use, and neither is MF, Animea, MP (mangapanda), so I just use MH