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Post #603265
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12:19 pm, Jun 12 2013
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500 chapters into Bleach ... That is the real Zangetsu.
LMAO

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12:55 pm, Jun 12 2013
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Anyone thinking that Ichigo's new power will be eventually tested vs Kenpachi's Shikai? Or even Renjiis...?
Btw, I agree that the Zanpakuto's name is Zangetsu not the hollow that lives inside. So, Hollow powers are back with these revelations right?
Hollow Powerz + Blut + New Zangetsu + Unsealed Powerz = God of Destruction/Anihilation?
Oh also I wanted to ask you opinion on how will the Spirit King react to all this mess... I mean, his part in this is clearly visible however he isn't really puting his 100% on this matter, and from what I know Bleach is ending in around 50-100chapters at most IMO.

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1:01 pm, Jun 12 2013
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^ Man, are you drunk? Bleach wont end at least in 200 chapters roll eyes See the pace of Bleach so far! Kubo is planning to use all the characters anyways roll

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Post #603269 - Reply to (#603260) by kekpew
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1:18 pm, Jun 12 2013
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Quote from kekpew
Pretty sure Ichigo's zanpakuto is called Zangetsu and not the hollow

and it seemed like this chapter was all about us being told that the inner hollow is also his shimigami power, his Zanpakuto

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2:15 pm, Jun 12 2013
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No one talking about Kubo's ass? That's new.

Anyway, good chapter.

I really liked how Ichigo's world crumbled when "Zangetsu" said his name was not Zangetsu.

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Haha. I have no idea what zangetsu/juha bach said at all in this chapter. I didn't want to see you become a shinigami because if you did, you would be hurt and such. And if you became a shinigami i would eventually kill you. What? So why would he kill him if he was a shinigami? Didn't tensa zangetsu ...


When he said it, he was talking about the real Juha. He didn't want Ichigo to die, so he suppressed Ichigo's powers. When he noticed it wouldn't stop Ichigo, he gave Ichigo power to fight and still be alive. But Zangetsu knew that one day Ichigo would face Juha, and that could mean death.

(Sorry If I was not clear enough...)

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So, what happened to the Old Man? Does this mean that Ichigo will no longer have his Blut powers?...


I think the quincy powers are still. The manifestation of this power (in the form of Zangetsu) has gone. Probably because Old Man existence was suppressing Ichigo's "real" power. In his words: "I'm more than happy to reliquish my hold over you".

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On the path of a massive power boost... Ichigo wasn't even using half of his abilities till now? roll eyes


A fraction isn't necessarily half. In my opinion the upgrade is more about uniqueness than massive power boost. Ichigo's zanpakuto was like Isshin's (kind of). But now it will be something new. Look at what it said: "The time has finally come for you to fight with your own true power.

Post #603282 - Reply to (#603262) by Kaitentsuki
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2:35 pm, Jun 12 2013
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The only thing I had against this was the fact that he wasn't even using a complete version of Zangetsu but just some halfbaked portion of it. I mean what does that make Aizen who was supposed to be one of the strongest characters in Bleach? A kitten that lost to some incomplete power?
At that point he was the perfect fusion of hollow and shinigami. Most likely his quincy powers, as they were not being developed at all, could contain less and less of his shinigami powers, so at that point his powers were probably a larger fraction of his true potential.

I would guess that everyone's hollow powers look like Juha Bach. They already said that he is the source of all Quincy powers, and all quincy share his blood. They also pointed out that when he regained his power, to speed up the process he took the powers from those that were deemed unworthy. All Quincy powers apparently begin and end with him, leading to the idea that it is some kind of fullbring-type power that he has physically given to people. As he can give, he can take away. The reason he looks like him 1000 years ago? That's when he had given his powers to others. All Quincy until he was resurrected would have to be related by blood to the original quincy.

This also means that the Juha Bach inside may not have the same memories and knowledge as the original, which is why eventually he was able to be won over. Of course, he's also been through all of it with Ichigo, which the real Juha Bach definitely wasn't.

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