It seems that most of you are trying to make a point of FT having fanservice in ALL of the chapters...

Why don't we check then?

300 - No fanservice at all.
301 - No fanservice at all.
302 - No fanservice at all.
303 - No fanservice at all.
304 - No fanservice at all.
305 - No fanservice at all.
306 - No fanservice at all.
307 - No fanservice at all.
308 - No fanservice at all.
309 - No fanservice at all. Unless, you're counting Lucy's boobs squishing into the cliff she's hanging off.
310 - No fanservice at all. Unless, you're counting Aquarius being in a bikini, which you shouldn't have - what else would a mermaid wear? You should be happy she's not naked.
311 - No fanservice at all.
312 - There are some panty flashes, but I don't see them as ecchi at all. I had to read the chapter twice to notice them all.
313 - No fanservice at all.
314 - Erza ex-quipes twice. Small panels, all covered up. Doesn't seem like Hiro was trying to force any fanservice on us.
315 - No fanservice. There is one panel that might seem a tiny bit erotic (not really), but considering what's happening in it, I don't think it is.
316 - No fanservice at all.
317 - No fanservice. You could try to say that the flashback panel had some, but 1. it was a flashback panel, 2. it was about obeying orders, no matter what they are. It wasn't meant to excite.
318 - No fanservice at all.
319 - Except for the cover, which, finally, had a real panty flash, there is no ecchi in this chapter.
320 - No fanservice at all.
321 - No fanservice at all.
322 - No fanservice at all.
323 - No fanservice at all.
324 - No fanservice at all.
325 - The cover is a bit suggestive. Other than that, no fanservice.
326 - You could argue of the cover, but it's not even close to the last chapter's. Other than that, nothing.
327 - Some panty flashes, ok.
328 - What, cover again? I don't think so.
329 - No fanservice at all.
330 - Stripping magic, yes? You guys got excited by all these naked men, ya?
Okay, Lucy too. I get it.
331 - Yes, Lucy is naked. This is the first chapter with a lot of fanservice. OMG, Hiro is a pervert! ... Yeah...
332 - No fanservice at all.
333 - No fanservice at all.
334 - No fanservice at all.
335 - The cover? Oh please... It could've been much more reveling. And even if, there's no fanservice in the rest of the chapter.
336 - No fanservice at all.
337 - The moment where Lucy it transferred to the Golden Plains? I don't think so.
338 - Lucy on the color double spread? Nothing in the actual chapter.
339 - The cover, ok. Nothing else.
340 - No fanservice at all.
341 - Bath scenes, ok.
342 - No fanservice at all.
343 - The cover? Just about as ecchi as Nami in 90% of One Piece. Other than that, nothing.
344 - One panty flash, big deal.
345 - No fanservice at all. Unless chibi Erza excites you, you pedophiles...
346 - No fanservice at all.
347 - No fanservice at all.
348 - Ul's spirit's naked ass. Oh no! It's basically borderline hentai, is it not?
349 - Erza stole Minerva's skirt and we see her panties, wow.

50 chapters, not even half of them has any fanservice in them. "Every chapter", my ass...

I agree that recently there's been more fanservice than before, but fanservice is not the main focus of this series. That's why I will never all it ecchi. (Not unless Hiro starts moving fanservice panels from the background to the foreground, making them the main focus of the series.)

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So because it has not come up often as of late then it should not be an ecchi/fanservice manga? Gee then lets take all the manga that have ecchi tag and have less content of fanservice on par with FT yet are catagorized as ecchi. Also when you said this
You just proved that you have not read One Piece and probably just picked some new chapter, most of the time she is covered unless she goes into her "battle wear" it is not even close to 90% of her moments like that in One Piece.
The point is FT is extremely predominant with fanservice that are just borderline nudity which should count as ecchi, FT is I think the only manga that has so much and is not catagorized as ecchi due to some reason.

Last edited by Kaitentsuki at 4:34 am, Sep 2 2013

I've said the exact opposite, actually. I said that recently there's been more fanservice.

IDK, I rarely read ecchi, but the ones I did read had a huuuuge gap in term of how explicit the fanservice was in comparison with FT's.

Okay, I might have oversold that one, but when I think of Nami I can picture her only two ways - bikini top + trousers; or fully covered up because there's a winter outside.
Oh, she did wear a T-shirt in the beginning chapters, IIRC. But other than that, I can't really recall much of her outwear. Than again, she is not my favorite character, so I don't pay that much attention to her.

Like I said before, FT's fanservice is the lightest type out there. Even this so-called "full nudity" isn't almost erotic at all. It's all simplified and covered up. Not once, in the entire series, have I seen a nipple. Not even its impression through a shirt or a bra.
What, in my opinion, determines an ecchi series is revealing as much of a female body's physique as possible without (necessarily) having to strip the character to nothing. And a complete lack of nipples (and no, I'm not counting Gray or any other male character) does not fit that description.

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The reason why I personally believe that Ft should be ecchi is because it has fanservices way to often and tries to undress the female characters way to often, even more than some ecchi manga plus not all ecchi manga show nipple shots and do the same as FT and are simplified and covered up. Though there are some ecchi manga that go extremely explicit with the most obvious one being for example something like To Love-Ru. Between you and me Nami is also not my most favorite character but it is really noticeable though I admit that after time skip she has been wearing more bikini which some FT characters also do often there even is one character in FT that is most of the time in a bikini,

why are you ppl arguing as if ecchi is something bad...and
we have gigantic boobs in bikinis/very tight clothes
and lolis in sexy outfits
alot of attention is on boobs,lolis and semi sexual positions

i think you can read/watch bleach and not be into it becouse of the tits/lolis
FT on the other hand... i just dont see that
the major selling point with this manga is ecchi

and why anyone compares it to OP is just weird...stop doing that
mangaka for FT can draw...OPmangaka is all about the comedy...drawing is not his strong suit

it is like saying Freezing is just a normal shounen

here for you (which actually never read or watched full dragon ball series, just random episodes for the lulz)
http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v21/c006/2.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v21/c006/3.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v02/c016/5.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v02/c015/17.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v01/c002/7.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v01/c002/8.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v01/c002/14.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v01/c004/8.html
i can link all of the same scenes on anime have on manga too(dragon ball anime is the more close to manga of all animes)
like some users here like to say "no ecchi my ass".

i read each dragon ball chapter and anime countless times to the point to turn from a big fan to a near hate(cuz the tooooooooooooooooooooo longs and boring fights scenes who take countless episodes/chapters to the point to make me fall sleep).

akira toryama was a big pervert as hiro


about toriko some sort of bug prevent me from link the right page then here another
http://mangafox.me/manga/toriko/vTBD/c203/8.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/toriko/202/16
this girl cloths


Last edited by syrokor at 9:56 am, Sep 2 2013

exactly some mangas being tag as ecchi for wrong reasons, to be ecchi we must have girls or guys getting naked in almost every chapter(or doing lewd things), guys grobing girls boobs on almost every every chapter(when the focus on the manga is to be "erotic"(guys and girls doing dirt things), not just some random pants shots, or boobs bounce(this happen in almost every manga) the focus on the manga must be "erotic" to be a ecchi manga.

mangas dont sudenddly turn in ecchi, or their start ecchi or no(not just " hiro - now i will make ft ecchi then start to draw dirt things) like any marketing change the type of manga need a change in contract and change of demograph(and censorship).

when a mangaka draw a ecchi manga he "draw a ecchi manga" he not just change from non ecchi to ecchi in the same work cuz he have a contract with the magazine, about the type of manga who he is draw, to change the manga style the mangaka must make a new contract with the magazine for then reclassify the manga.

again ecchi is just a childshi way to childrens call erotic mangas( kodomos use ecchi while shounen and seinen use more harsh words like ero, pervert or hentai).

another exemple of wrong tag manga is soul eater( i dont read but many others guys which read this already talked to me about "how wrong is soul eater being Ecchi").

ecchi manga is a manga purelly focused on erotic(hentai or no, the borderline).

this is how ecchi mangas starts(90% of then the others 10% start on second or third chapter)
http://mangafox.me/manga/bee_be_beat_it/v01/c001/7.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/cube_x_cursed_x_curious/v01/c00 1/14.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/dakara_boku_wa_h_ga_dekinai/v0 1/c001/8.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/hagure_yuusha_no_kichiku_bigaku/ v01/c001/7.html

edit: damn srry for the double post, moderator can merge this with the previous one please.

Last edited by syrokor at 9:36 am, Sep 2 2013

Your definition of ecchi is somewhat scewed and your Dragon Ball and Toriko examples are TERRIBLE especially Toriko, if those clothes are fanservice/ecchi than you have a problem son. On Dragon Ball you linked some where Goku was naked....that is for comedy sake and Japan has ZERO issues with a kid going naked like that and neither am I as it innocent and merely there for comedy the pictures of Bulma in the bathtub covers everything barely showing anything and a classic example of an extremely mild fanservice the panty ones are not even anything worth mentioning seeing as it is a way to show how crude Bulma is, probably because she is around kids. The only one that was even remotely close to "ecchi" was the scene where she went without panties and that was an extremely mild case of ecchi compared to what FT has shown. Your knowledge of the contracts is probably wrong too, I do not know how they do it there in Japan but I am quite sure that they can change it to what genre they want it to be since the authors are in charge of the story, for example a comedy manga can suddenly change to a battle manga. At least Gradonil_Ral is making some decent points why FT should not be tagged as ecchi while you are not.

you means goku removing bulma pants(and we se her without pants) not ecchi, then why you say who ft is worse ?
http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v01/c002/14.html(it was cut in many regions)

i can link all the ecchi moments on dragon ball(have much more) but why instead of ask you dont actually "read the manga" you are looking like never "read dragon ball" and are throwing random asnwers.
have moment where goku(while child) touch chichi pussy, goku bath with gothen and trunks and appear naked(like gray) have many others moments, dragon ball was a very pervert manga and no one called him or still call him ecchi(with even childrens doing pervert things)

like ullon turning in bulma and show his boobs to master hiosh(and even say which he can smash his head on then, puff puff, which i also linked) bulma traveling with gohan and kriling only wearing pants and short skirt) really sometimes some peoples start to make me believe in we are reading 2 different mangas(one where nothing of that things happen) and another where everything happen(which not the true)

bulma in more than 1 chapter(and episode) wearing the classic bunny girl cloth(which mashima copied), dragon ball was full of fanservice only too much innocent peoples(or childrens which was my case when i was young, not noticed)

you say who their are fine, but this not true, most of that scenes in anime was cut or censored in some regions.

maybe the problem was "you lived in the censored/cut places", but if you full read/watch both manga and anime(without the cuts or censure) you will see the difference

toriko was just to show who "girls using revealing cloths" exist in any manga.

not i'm not wrong, cuz i read some years ago(looking in google) about ecchi and that things and find a place where i guy explain how work the mangas and even another good exemple is if you read mangas like bakuman(which are mangas about mangakas) actually if you look right you can find many info about manga market and all his rules.

now is my time to ask you to proof how i'm wrong cuz until now none of the pro-ecchi tag showed any, any proof than their own opnions(nothing to hold your opnion).


and i'm start to get tired of being the only one which need proof anything, why yours can do the same ?, where yours links (mangaupdates link dont count).


if someone we have someone who need to proof why Ft is ecchi is not me but the ones which asked for the tag

i want a solid source about FT being ecchi(any world wide store where Ft is flagged as ecchi, words from mashima or even any other japanese who can confirm who Ft is ecchi).

japaneses are 0 issues with many things, like incest(in some places sibilins, mothers and fathers can make sex between each other, their cant marry), like childrens(13 years) doing sex, their have much disturb things, like machines where you can buy pants(allegedly used by young girls), with parents or sibilins bathing together until near 10(8 to 9 years if i'm not wrong),some places even have a memorial Day for sex(where peoples can walk naked and do sex in public and orgys)

sex in japan is a very "open issue" for then, only nowadays which their start to be more caution about their life style towards the world and does little changes in their laws

their have many issues which i really agree who are disturbing but thi is their way of life and "i'm respect this" as long this not affect my life.

Last edited by syrokor at 2:20 pm, Sep 2 2013

Dude if you really think Dragon ball is a pervert manga and those clothes in Toriko being revealing than you are a lost case. The point with Dragon Ball and that scene you posted was to show the innocence and ignorance of Goku while also adding a tad bit of comedy there was nothing absolutely nothing perverted and it was barely a fanservice and if you say Dragon Ball is full of fanservice and is a pervert manga while FT is not than I am just going to ignore you.

http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v02/c015/17.html this was innocent

then is fine do pervert things as long the mc is a "innocent people", then why that scenes are cut or censored in many places ? explain this...

ok i know a lot of ecchi manga where the mc is "innocent" but still happen many pervert moments with him.

a good exemple is negime from mahou sensei negime
again you can stop of just say random things and actually bring "solid proofs" for your argument, if you bring i happy agree with you.


Last edited by syrokor at 2:31 pm, Sep 2 2013

Meant in that context it was and again this picture was meant for COMEDY, think of it this way Japanese people have different humor surprise I kno rite? By the way you have yet to bring anything about FT being ecchi or not you have only brought your own opinion of how Dragon Ball is a pervert and ecchi manga and that the author is a pervert which seem to just strengthen the case that FT is an ecchi manga if the pictures/situation in Dragon Ball are so perverse in your opinion...Dragon Ball shows much less and has much less of those "perverse/ecchi" scenes/moments.

if that things was happened on FT i bet my pc who you will gona link then and using to proof which ft is ecchi.

how do you know ? you read the whole manga , my point is ok if ft is a ecchi fine but also, Dragon ball, O P and others must be flag ecchi(since their also use the same material as ft, random naked girls, pants, shots boobs bounce,

dragon ball was very pervert on the start but later(near end) was much less.

i'm just demand "justice" not just because some peoples can't stand with fanservice(which is =/= from ecchi) from only one work which me must "forgive the others".
from tv troopers
fanservice

from wikipedia
fanservice


i'm bring proofs which what qualify a manga as ecchi is not only the amount of fanservice but also is the quality((the most important).

let's be pratical link now how many times in FT manga a woman appear full naked ??, link please

why is so hard to "provide links" like me to hold you own "base".

Last edited by syrokor at 3:15 pm, Sep 2 2013

Well since Wikipedia is fair game for an example than this would work, in wikipedia in the ecchi page there is a content that explains with examples what ecchi is.

Graphically speaking, different techniques are used to show sexy pictures, usually by revealing parts of the female body. Some of these patterns are recurrent, such as scenes in a shower, onsen, or fighting scenes in which clothes are torn apart by weapons or magic. This involves the back, buttocks or even breasts and panchira. Sounds awfully like what FT does a lot and it even shows a lot of nudity obscuring the nipple and genitals.
If you can say that FT does none of these than you are mad, it does it all to the letter and has gone way beyond Fanservice. With Dragon Ball none of the scenes are sexualized/sexy/erotic and are just there for comedy nothing more nothing less and is more of a fan service.

really natsu grab lucy boobs was for comic) or you will say who he wanted rape her or do sex) like master hioshi paff paff bulma boobs

again this happen in all episodes ? in FT ?, ecchi to be ecchi must happen in every or almost every chapter(you are forgetting the bold part)
this happen in FT you can see peoples naked or half naked on allmost every chapter/episode

almost of every FT ecchi are more for comedy than erotic, like "dragon ball" or OP then why db or op is better?(and in dragon ball akira dont even try to hidden bulma niples).

dont matter if just for comedy or no by your logic what is matter is if this is present or no in the series.

and here fanservice

dont also sounds like FT, dragon ball, or one piece ?

that things also happen on that others mangas as well.

and you are link types of ecchi but not the true definiltion of ecchi

this is ecchi definition:


Last edited by syrokor at 3:53 pm, Sep 2 2013