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Post #159273 - Reply to (#159272) by Lagito
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Masataka is probably my favourite next to Bunshichi.

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besides, i only started to like tenten, when finally the story stopped being about shouichirou, by far the character that i hated the most of the stories i have seen so far, and began to center on the others characters that go beyond a "i'm a uber talented shitty character, who only wins because i'm the protagonist and have uber godly powers"

See though he may be the main character he's not always the focus. Which is why I really like this manga. Each main character, excluding Bob at the moment, has a big role in the flow of the story.

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Masataka is probably my favourite next to Bunshichi.

second that

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besides, i only started to like tenten, when finally the story stopped being about shouichirou, by far the character that i hated the most of the stories i have seen so far, and began to center on the others characters that go beyond a "i'm a uber talented shitty character, who only wins because i'm the protagonist and have uber godly powers"

See though he may be the main character he's not always the focus. Which is why I really like this manga. Each main character, excluding Bob at the moment, has a big role in the flow of the story.

And Bob had a big fight a few chapters back. I wish there was more of him, but it looks like it's not gonna happen. And we haven't seen Souichiro in action in several chapters. I have no idea why people hate him. I hate a bunch of characters in manga, but he doesn't display any detestable traits.

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*Raises his hand*
I initially picked up this title for the ecchi, but when I started reading it, the action scenes got me biggrin
...but the ecchi motivates me most though laugh

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I dropped the manga for the ecchi-ness, but after the blonde hair guy started getting all the main attention I didn't like how the story was going so that was also a reason to drop it..

Sometimes it seems like the boobs are just ridiculous to even pay attention to anything else..

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^fair enough. However, if you don't like how a story goes, do you often drop a series?

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i'd say for me it's for the boobs completely now. the story just kind of went in a wrong turn for me a long time ago when i first read it, there were some good points to it every now and again. but ultimately it's really the boobs that make me return for it. laugh bigrazz

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After watching the anime more or less entirely for the opening sequence, I decided to give the manga a shot. I read all the way up to chapter 112, which was the most recent at the time, and haven't looked at TenTen since. I do read it for the story, but I view Oh! Great's potential as a writer with a certain skepticism.

The plot itself isn't particularly complex at any point in the story, but overall it struck me as inconsistent and convoluted in the extreme. The scope of the story and its themes starts out confined to that of a high-school martial arts manga (with the characters pondering the meaning of strength and why they fight), then expands during the Shin flashbacks to include the backdrop of the Takayanagi family and its strange ambitions, then suddenly balloons out to epic proportions as themes of fate, reincarnation, Japanese history, even more over-the-top supernatural elements, and obscure cultural references abound. (I read TenTen on onemanga.com - by this point even the translator has started to complain.)

It's not what's happening that's difficult to understand, but exactly why it's happening. Also, some of the character's actions just boggle me.

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Some things that I didn't quite get:

That white feather clan guy with the beanie and the mechanical arms. First he spends several chapters brutally (and without any particularly good reason) murdering people and ramming poles up their asses, letting his subordinates rape and torture the one vampire priestess he doesn't kill, and trying to kill his father and a bunch of other main characters. Then, after he's defeated and has somehow made peace with his father, suddenly he's the nicest guy in town, building mechanical arms for Souichiro's tragically handicapped mother and giving her limousine rides.

The past versions of Souichiro and Aya, and their comrades. Apparently they're the good guys, because the ruler they're staging a coup against is a warmonger and a douchebag of sorts, yet for some reason they seem to be always either killing people who don't have any clear connection to their goal, or torturing people unnecessarily (or both, as in the case of that little girl who worked in the brothel, whom they mindraped before stabbing in the head - why did they do that, again?)


Again, it isn't hard to follow what's happening, but at times I'm not quite sure why. I agree the story is deep, and has a lot of thematic undercurrents. But it just because it's profound doesn't mean it's a well-constructed plot. It's possible I'm just slow, and I'll probably read it again along with the latest chapters, but overall the story seems to have a lot of things wrong with it. I still enjoyed it, though.

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^I agree completely with your assessment. The drive behind peoples actions is sometimes unclear. It's been a while since I read those chapters, though, so I'm fuzzy on the details you are describing.

Good story but not executed in the best manner. However, it's still very much worth the read, by all means. And it still ranks among one of my top manga of all time.

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Totally agree with everything kuraruka said... I gave up on it when it jumped back into that past life stuff embarrassed It was very good up to a point then it started to suddenly become all over the place and exceed it's scope. I am tempted to pick up reading it again...

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Totally agree with everything kuraruka said... I gave up on it when it jumped back into that past life stuff embarrassed It was very good up to a point then it started to suddenly become all over the place and exceed it's scope. I am tempted to pick up reading it again...

It's definitely worth it. It may become a clutterfuck at times, but the art and the progression of the story is reason enough to continue.

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I like the art. The ecchiness is just the icing on top, rofl. Anyways, I also wanna see the random over-the-top powers the characters use... random... but interesting...

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I've nothing to add to this other then that I like Tenjo Tengeh. I read all kind's of manga, and let me tell you, Boob's are great(.) Lol, but seriously it's not "Just" the great chest's that suck me into the story. But they do add some fanservice value. laugh

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11:30 am, Aug 18 2008
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i liked tenjou tenge, especially the first volumens ...
but it got stranger and stranger plus suddenly the artwork changed? .. well actually it got worse .. the characters look differently and the story is ... -.-
kinda sad cuz i enjoyed reading this manga

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Totally agree with everything kuraruka said... I gave up on it when it jumped back into that past life stuff embarrassed It was very good up to a point then it started to suddenly become all over the place and exceed it's scope. I am tempted to pick up reading it again...

It's definitely worth it. It may become a clutterfuck at times, but the art and the progression of the story is reason enough to continue.

i dunno about the story but your right about the art though. i can't really bring myself to read the story any more if i was to pick it up again it'd mostly be cause i wanted to look at the art. cause like kuraruka said the characters actions being random and sometimes unnecessary. the characters actions just kind of killed the story to me. the part about the brothel he pointed out was kind of the last straw for me. i stopped after that cause it just turned into the characters were all just crappy individuals.

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I just read it because it's a manga. Do I need some other reasons to read it?

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