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10:28 am, Jan 3 2015
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Hello everyone.

Nowadays mainstream shoujo/josei manga really is unsuitable for my taste. So I'm really trying hard to look for something interesting, refreshing and unique. Because like this it's deadly boring...

I'm so pissed of the fact that everything is too often repeating itself. Let me tell some outstanding examples:

- the super unrealistic drawing style (plate sized eyes, spot like nose, skeleton bodies, chibi-like characters, big boobs, doll-like face, just 'perfect' bodies etc.) -----> To me those things are hollow. What is premeditated to be perfectly cute/beautiful or so is turning pretty ugly to me.

- super extra obvious storyline and character types (plot is not deep and realistic, in fact it's really childish and unimaginative - easy to guess, the characters are too often stereotypes: such as crybabies, helpless cowards, cold/quiet ones, machoes, mean-spirited, simpletons, cute/beautiful/handsome ones (popular - the ones each and every one is adoring), good-at-everything – bad-at-everything...ETC.) -----> And the most annoying thing ever is to highlight those features. It's sadly often so.

Those are the main points why I'm so fed up. But don't get me wrong here. I absolutely prefer the genre of shoujo/josei. I really like when it's about mental side and growth, emotions and psychology, slice of life and such. And it's irritating how in shonen it's usually revolving around battling/fighting/winning/women etc. --- what a pitiful outcome. dead

BUT hey, of course there are exceptions along. But still…

Is there someone capable of helping me out? I'm really longing for the opposites of the list before. Look at the headline: it would be marvelous if those things would form a story.

PS. I wish not to hurt anyone who is fond of the features/style I criticized.




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10:33 am, Jan 3 2015
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My ongoing master-list is yours:
Josei: Hachimitsu to Clover Finished
Seinen: Berserk
Shojo: Mars Finished
Shonen: Rurouni Kenshin Finished

Action: Hellsing Finished + Shi ga Futari o Wakatsu Made
Adult: Natsu no Zenjitsu
Adventure: 7 Seeds + Shingeki no Kyojin - Before the Fall Better then the main series
Anime: Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu long form + Cowboy Bebop short form
Anthology: Hi no Tori Incomplete(still 10/10) + Otoyomegatari
Chambara: Azumi
Comedy: Dr. Slump Finished + Ore Monogatari!!
Comic: The Walking Dead long + We3 short
Drama: Boku no Chikyuu o Mamotte Finished + Jin
Ecchi: Jigokuren Finished
Fantasy: Ookami to Koushinryou + Spirit Circle
Gender Bender: Kanojo ni Naru Hi fantasy + Nicoichi real life
Harem: Ooku
Hentai: Wain no Kachikan Finished
Historical: Ookami no Kuchi: Wolfsmund needs more views + Vinland Saga
Horror: Dorohedoro + Kiseijuu Finished and best ending.
Manhwa: Shin Angyo Onshi Finished
Martial Arts: All Rounder Meguru
Mature: Innocent (SAKAMOTO Shinichi) + Yamikin Ushijima-kun
Mecha: Shin Seiki Evangelion Finished + Kidou Senshi Gundam - The Origin
Medical: Black Jack Finished + Iryuu - Team Medical Dragon
Military or Police: Historie + Kidou Keisatsu Patlabor
Movie: Akira + Mononoke Hime
Mystery: Billy Bat + xxxHoLic
One-Shot: Watashitachi no Shiawase na Jikan
Psychological: Death Note Finished + Liar Game
Romance: Last Game +Sakamichi no Apollon Finished
Sci-fi: Uchuu Kyoudai hard sci-fi + Koukaku Kidoutai Arise - Nemuranai Me no Otoko Sleepless Eye
School Life: Angel Densetsu Finished + Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou Finished
Shounen Ai: Zankoku na Kami ga Shihaisuru Finished
Shoujo Ai: Honey & Honey Finished
Slice of life: Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou Finished + Yotsubato!
Smut: Sora wa Akai Kawa no Hotori Finshed
Sports: Ashita no Joe Finshed + Real
Supernatural: Mushishi Finished for now + Hagane no Renkinjutsushi Finished
Tragedy: Jisatsutou + Nana
Train-wreck: Wolf Guy - Ookami no Monshou Finished
Webtoon: Blind Faith Descent - long + Superior Day - short

Some genres are stretches because most are the best authors or franchises japan has to offer. Thus the double posts. As always good ongoings lead to good past works.
Happy reading smile .

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10:20 am, Jan 4 2015
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Truly,
Thank you for all of your suggestions ! smile

In your list there are some which I am already familiar with.
I'll glance through your list carefully and maybe I'll find something suitable for me. wink
It would be great to find something Yamaji Ebine stylish, something sketchy, simple lines and rough.


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The Sketchy Art, Realistic Art Style Style tag could help. Mugen no Juunin for example has both. Start your yourney there too. Forgot to put it in. I gave your stuff for more then a year to read because these are good people i link to.


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Yes, I will. Absolutely.
Thanks again !

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Wellcome to the community and make your lists public. Allways helps. To anyone reading make your own master lists. The version i did is crazy easy to edit and if you see authors missing drop a line to me. Never wrong. Berserk = Best manga/comic. Start or end there.

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Hmm what an interesting request. I'll recommend you the ones that stuck with me. Please note that I read every genre, so I'm also including some BL

Sekine-kun no Koi - yes, the mc is handsome, and yes, he can do everything easily. BUT that has not brought him neither much good nor happiness. The truth is that his qualities contrast wonderfully with his wounded, naive and, yes, somewhat puerile psyche. It truly is "about mental side and growth, emotions and psychology, slice of life and such". Absolutely lovely.
Song of the Long March - one of the few manga's I can say are excellent without hesitation. One of the chinese translations reads "Chang Ge's Journey" and that's exactly what it is. It's a young woman's quest to find herself, in a wonderful historical backdrop. Well developed characters, interesting plot, gorgeous art.
Ane no Kekkon - probably the only adultery manga I'll ever read. Really good slice of life. Too bad it doesn't come out very often.
Barakamon - hilarity + cuteness. Not too much of one, not too little of the other. It's got the perfect balance and it somehow manages to squeeze in some character development (and sensei and the children are so cute!)
Blue Sky Complex - shounen-ai. Lovely slice of life, things happen slowly, there's no "I turned gay for you" stuff. Their relationship flows naturally
Komatta Toki ni wa Hoshi ni Kike! - shounen-ai. once again, lovely slice of life. What makes this one shine is the characters, their dynamics and their development. It's great seeing characters you've grown attached to grow up mentally, and here it's all very fluid and natural, to the point that before you know it you already think it's natural for them to be together.
Cheese in the Trap - a josei slice of life with a perceptive, smart and realistic female lead. Honestly, before reading this I never thought a slice of life plot could keep me on the edge of my seat but now I know better. The characters and the relationships between them are also well represented, though I think there are some things that are a little bit exaggerated (though the author admitted to it herself and said it was because it was a manhwa) but it's negligible
Shoukoku no Altair - honestly, despite the art, this is not shoujo. But this is just so good, especially if you like strategy and politics. I also love the mc's character development
The Children's Teacher, Mr. Kwon - another great slice of life. I didn't really expect much of it but now it's one of my favourites. Too bad it seems it's been dropped sad
A Cruel God Reigns - I have to second this. Although there is a bit too much drama for my tastes, I really like Ian's inner conflict
Annarasumanara - the only word that comes to mind to describe this is "beautiful". And it's got a good message too. Actually, I'd recommend every single HA Il-Kwon work there is, except for Carnivorous Princess Yegrinna...
Cat Street - this is shoujo, but it's good shoujo. This manga showed me shoujo doesn't have to be annoying and full of cliches
NG Life - honestly, Aironic's review sums up my thoughts almost perfectly (http://https://www.mangaupdates.com/reviews.html?id=399)
Seven Days - shounen-ai. And the one that made me have faith in the genre. It has to do with the contrasts between expectations/reality and what is shown/what is there.
Sora Log - once again, good shoujo. It does have some commonly seen tropes such as the delinquent boy that doesn't let anyone get near, the beautiful older lady that seems to be close to him and some others, but it's good nonetheless.
Tamashii no Futago - this one's got impact. Really. The twist at the end made me incredibly sad for the characters involved. Actually, I don't think there's a single MIHARA Mitsukazu work I've read that i haven't liked
They, Too, Love - read this one recently. I wasn't really expecting much but it turned out to be really interesting. It was funny, the characters were charming and I really liked the dynamics between them. The ending didn't disappoint me, either. Truly a pleasant surprise.
Warau Kanoko-sama - I liked this one, the female lead is smart and cynical and undaunted by love. There's not much character development in this one, as it is episodical, but the sequel Koi dano Ai Dano is even better
Bokura no Kiseki - a fantasy whodunnit with a large cast of characters. really good, really interesting. I enjoy not only the mystery but also the mc's and the other character's development. My only complaint is that since it only comes out once a month I keep forgetting the characters since there are so many
Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou - starts out light but before you know it it's spiraled down to darkness. Lovely to see the way characters develop and how their development helps others' in turn. A crazy ride

sorry for the long post, it's just that since I like it when people say what they like about something I figured it might also be appreciated bigrazz if you don't want to read the blocks of text just skip'em

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The first two manga that came to to mind (for their realistic content, not artwork) are
Soshite, Hare ni Naru and Cousin.

Also, I second Cheese in the Trap, Song of the Long March, and Annarasumanara

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Kokou no Hito

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I recommend Tetsugaku letra

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Here are a few of my favs with plain/ugly main characters :

Sekitou Elergy : Romance/Drama. The male MC is plain and for once relatively poor, meaning not the usual middle class protagonist.

Old Boy : Mystery/Thriller. I'd recommend you check the movie adaptation if you can, it was really good, but the manga is cool too.

Oyaji : Drama/Action. The MC is old and real ugly, the action can be over the top sometimes but I really liked it.

Boys on the Run : Comedy/Drama. The MC is ugly and a real loser. If you can stand a pathetic protagonist, it's a good manga.

Maybe check works by FUKUMOTO Nobuyuki. His art isn't always the most realistic but it's not the usual shounen style you tend to describe either, so I think it's worth a check. All his MCs tend to be plain/ugly : I recommend Seizon - Life (Drama/Thriller), Strongest Man Kurosawa (Comedy/Drama), and Akagi (Psychological/Drama).

Debu to Bijin : Romance/Slice of Life. A nice oneshot about an unusual MC. Actually both male and female are very unusual as protagonists for a manga.

Moteki : Comedy/Drama/Romance. Another plain male lead.

Bokko : Historical/Action. A very unusual MC for an action manga : he is old and plain and tend to rely more on wits than brawn. Quite decent if you like tactics/strategy.

I Am a Hero : Horror/Drama. A zombie manga with an unusual MC, he's not quite there in the head. If you liked Battle Royale, Gantz and so on it's worth a read.

Angel Densetsu : Comedy. The male lead is ugly/evil-looking and that's the main premise of the manga. As the story progresses, more traditional shounen elements are brought in, but the author always manages them well so definitely give this one a try.

Stalker : Mystery/Drama. Ugly and creepy male lead. An interesting webtoon. It's complete but sadly not fully translated.




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1:27 am, Jan 5 2015
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try Watashitachi no Shiawase no jikan and basically all the mangas from that author (Yumeka Somomo a.k.a Sahara Mizu)
the art is pretty and the story has a good plot.

and if you still okay with the art style (no, its not that big and super sparkly eyes art type, but still considerably big) try Warau Kanoko-sama it has some character with that annoying "handsome and smart" and "pretty but dumb" as side character. (yea i hate this type of character too) but trust me the main character is epic. (just give it a shot, you can drop it if it doesn't suit your taste anyway)

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3:54 am, Jan 5 2015
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Thank you all for your recommendations !
I'll check them up.

But. To be honest. I am really picky when it's about ART... and of course... the STORYLINE. I really insist them to be as earlier discribed: deep and realistic. Else, I'll find it really hard to be interested. wink



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